Comments on: Hamels Upset Over 2008 Money

By: Bobby Wallingford

Bobby Wallingford — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:12:40 +0000

As much as I like Cole, anyone who complains about making $500,000 over a year, when other folks do more important things in society for much less money, deserves to be punched in the face. The pay structure isn’t the problem…the problem is that too much value is assigned to the ability to perform activities that have little intrinsic value.

That being said, I hope the Phillies get new management quickly. Anyone who thinks that Adam Eaton is worth more than Ryan Howard or Cole Hamels needs to leave. I’m sick of the pennypinching when it comes to good players and the overpaying when it comes to mediocre players (Burrell most of the time, Eaton). And if Lohse wants four million next year, give it to him. After last season, better to start with 6 pitchers than 5.

By: Mike Gil

Mike Gil — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:54:22 +0000

@Matt Kwasiborski: Well said, sir. I was hoping I wouldn’t be the first one in this thread to say, “Shut up and pitch.”

I’m a big CH fan, and know that the Phightin’s front office hasn’t merited our unqualified confidence, but if the kid pitches the way he’s capable and keeps himself healthy, he’s gonna make plenty of dough pitching in the major leagues.

By: Sean P.

Sean P. — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:09:19 +0000

Its easy to give Hamels the extra cash he wants but every team would feel the repurcussions felt with any young pitcher coming up. This year its this much and next year its more. Its endless with every team out there. Its inevitable, but the Phillies didn’t want to set some precedent with Cole. Just like they didn’t want to set one with Ryne Howard. That is not how MLB is set up.

By: Matt Kwasiborski

Matt Kwasiborski — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:18:10 +0000

We all think Hamels is worth the money through his potential. Problem is, he rarely holds up for the entire year healthy. And he needs to win some awards as Howard has already done. Once he wins a Cy Young or makes an All-Star team, then he should just shut up and pitch.

He does seem like he is used to always getting his way and isn’t shy about complaining to the media. I don’t think dirty laundry should ever be made public, yet this is two major gripes of his in 6 months and he went crying to the media about them.

He will get paid in due time, but he has to realize he has never stayed healthy for a season yet.

By: Rob

Rob — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:13:58 +0000

Hamels is a West Coast Boy, unless the Phils give him the money to stay, he will go to a california team. I agree he hasnt produced yet, and hopefully the phillies will know if the time comes to trade him as opposed to let him walk

By: OZ

OZ — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:06:32 +0000

Hamels is still too young/new to be taking that approach. That said, even more evidence (not that we needed it) about the awful management/spending/P.R. skills of Dave Montgomery, Bill Giles, Harpo, Groucho, etc.

Why didn’t Scott Palmer approach them and say “Hey, you may make only 22.5 million this year, instead of 26.5 million but we could really win back the fans, silence the critics and keep Howard and Hamels happy – would be great for P.R., great for the clubhouse morale, and hey, we can make plenty of cheap decisions later. Heck knows we’re good at that.”

Dense. Dense. Dense.

Can someone put Montgomery on a horse and smack it in the direction of a desert…

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By: brian

brian — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:14:30 +0000

I get the sense that Hamels means it when he says he’ll remember it. But if he produces again, which he most likely will, the Phils would be absolutely insane not to lock him up for a long, long time with big, big money. His time, and his money, will come. He just needs to have a little patience.

By: Dallyllama21

Dallyllama21 — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:00:47 +0000

I couldn’t agree with you more.Chris.I Says

By: Chris.I

Chris.I — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:50:37 +0000

Is it me, or does he remind anyone else of another Scott Rollen? Hamels is a good pitcher, but he really hasn’t proved Sh*t..He’s only had one damn full season. He sees Howard shaking more leaves from the tree, and feels he can too…Word of advice to Hamels..Did you notice how HUGE howards nose is? The mans a beast for christ sake, and you my friend aint ”yet” lol.

By: typhoon

typhoon — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:04:32 +0000

I got to agree with Tim, the problem in this case is the pay structure of baseball, not Cole Hamels or the Phillies Front Office. I wish that it was set up so that every players makes money that corresponds to how well they performed in the previous year. I doubt this will ever happen, but it makes more sense than guys like Eaton getting $8 million last year and Hamels making $400k last year.

By: KinersKornerman

KinersKornerman — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:24:52 +0000

Gentlemen, if Ollie Perez is worth $6.5M, then your boy Hamels is worth at least half that, and prolly more. Not a good front office move, even though they are within their rights to do it.

By: Brian Michael

Brian Michael — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:07:02 +0000

If Cole is going to whine about more money, then he probably shouldn’t cough up 2 homers in 2 innings as he did today. I don’t want to get on the guy but when he says stuff like that he opens himself up to scrutiny he doesn’t need as a young pitcher. He should focus on pitching and that’s it.

By: dan

dan — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:01:01 +0000

I think this talk is actually doing Cole something. Besides leaving a bad taste in everyone who reads/hears it’s mouths, it establishes a precedent for Cole’s future. Cole Hamels recognizes that baseball is a business and he understands how vital he is to our team’s success. Our front office doesn’t have a huge problem with spending enough money, it’s just how they spend it. To me, this quote is calling the front office out for paying players like Adam Eaton and Wes Helms so well. Hamels deserves that kind of money, and will get it eventually, either as a Phillie or a member of another team. Let’s just hope it’s as a Phillie.

By: Fran

Fran — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 01:59:55 +0000

just give the man 750,000 and keep him happy