Phillies Nation

Was reading Stark on ESPN.com..If the phillies go year to year with howard AND hamels as he hints at, thats disgraceful. both players would revolt and they wont pay for it anyway. theyll have to trade howard. theyll try and go year to year with hamels, but it wont work. i hate the way they do business. just pony up the cash for hamels long term, you dont screw around at all with that. to me, that would have been done already if they did it right. hes already a little irked at the team. if they screw him over again hes outta here too. and if they lose hamels and fail to sign him long term, thats an unforgiveable sin worthy of refusing to renew ticket packages in the future. its a no brainer, sign him THIS YEAR to a long-term deal and cough up the money.

Not quite sure that I buy into this argument yet. I do understand the emotions, but baseball isn’t about emotions at the upper ‘business’ levels. There is only one reason to pony up a huge amount of extra cash for Howard and Hamels right now….keeping them happy. That’s it, no other reason.

Now, keeping two of your major stars happy is a good reason to consider something beyond what you would ordinarily do, on a business level. Everyone is most certainly NOT equal, in life or in baseball.

However, assuming the ballclub at least has the framework of a budget each season, and assuming that we would all like to see the club improve from year to year, as well as have the financial flexibility to make improvement in-season should they so warrant, tying up any money that you don’t absolutely have to tie up is just plain dumb.

The Phils will be walking a tightrope here going forward. The fact is that they simply must not allow these two home-grown products to walk away, assuming they remain productive and healthy. Their talents are enormous, and their popularity will only grow as they continue to display them for the paying customers, and especially if the club keeps winning.

Right now, the Phils are fine. They should do what they are doing: evaluate the situation year-to-year, and make any prudent moves when those situations so warrant. Today is not that day.

GO PHILS!!!

Well i’m beating a dead horse here for me, but the decision to play Ruiz has already cost us a run.

Mike W. – I agree with you on Ruiz, not a good call.

Also, my buddy is having part of his bachelor party at the game tomorrow – we’re tailgating at 11AM for a 4 o’clock game. There will be 15 of us — add 4 hours in the sun, 7 or 8 beers, and some asshole Mets fans… yeah. I’ll have a report Sunday morning.

Reyes was so fu$#ing out on that steal it was absurd. umps screwing us for 3rd time in 1 week

met fan, go back to metsblog. what hte hell are you doing on here anyway? you can’t honestly say that he was safe and keep a straight face. glove tagged helmet before hand hit base. not sure if you’re familiar with the rules, but that means out.

also – kinda like your OWN FUCKING ANNOUNCER was happy when jroll hurt his ankle vs the mets.

that was close but i think he was out at the plate. i can admit that. but he was absolutely safe at second just now. I still dont think he should be in the game. not worth the risk. but our manager is an idiot. nice of you guys to applaud when someone could be possiby hurt. real class.

hold on, which announcer was happy about jroll being hurt ? if you ever really listen to met games on met radio, or watch on sny, they actually respect him a lot. and keith hernandez loves jroll. so does ron darling. so not what youre talking about. metsblog blows, basically metsgeek and this site are the only well written blogs.

dude i just said i expect met fans to act like idiots at shea, i was at opening day when you guys won and saw stuff being thrown at phillies fans, and lots of fights so we get it. both fans act dumb. but where’s the class in applauding a player getting hurt ? let me guess thats ok because mets fans act like jerks ?

both fans are jerks. no doubt about that. sorry, both fans HAVE jerks i mean. but the philly fans get WAY worse treatment by the media. what i witnessed last week at shea, i have NEVER seen at a phils game. eagles game – yes – but not phils.

my point is that clapping when reyes gets a small little hit on the head is not a big deal at all. you’ll find that at basically every stadium in america. it’s not like he got beaned in the ear with a pitch.

yes – that did happen to abreu. you are correct (seriously).

the interestin thing about this rivalry is that roles have been reversed in the past 2 years. last year we were super insecure, and probably were the bigger aholes to the opposing teams fans.

this year, it’s not even close. you guys (mets fans) are so angry about what happened last year, and we are the ones with the calmer smugness.

met fan – we wont be irate. why? b/c it’s april. and last may and april, we were down 8 games to you guys. so we wouldn’t be nearly as mad. we’ve come back before.

abreu is/was soft. no doubt about that. i was a huge abreu supporter and i still know that. not as soft as rolen, but still soft.

rolen was one of the best third basemen i’ve ever seen, he just didnt care about playing in philly even for a huge contract.

Ha, it had nothing to do with not caring. He literally couldn’t stand a single negative statement by the media. A reporter would write about a bad game he had, and he’d go home and cry (seriously). He can’t play in philly, he couldn’t play in nyc or boston. he’s a midwestern guy. it’s a personality thing. but it’s pretty pathetic.

also, please note, he ran himself out of st. louis the way he did in philly. the guy, despite talent, obviously has issues.

so fuck off Gnomicide, dont get in the way of a met-phil argument

I read Resenthal saying “go year to year with howard then LET HIM WALK”. what? this guy should know better. only stupid teams do that. you gotta keep him or get something for him while you still can. you dont pass up chances to get value in return. but philadelphia teams do that a lot, which is why they dont win titles. recently though, holmgren did the right thing last year but avoiding that and being the exception. he got value for forseberg bigtime. i wanna see this team succeed and build a team that can win a few titles and i dont know that theyll do that by doing business this way in major league baseball. meanwhile…WAY TO GO CHASE UTLEY. Putting Santana in his book.

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lets go mets ! and please no wagner or heilman.

S A N T A N A !!!!!!!!!!!!!

dude – heilman SUCKS. he is fucking awful. obviously i only see him when he plays us, but he gives up runs every time!! i dont understand it.

Aaron Heilman is my favorite pitcher by far.

I don’t think we can get another run. Offense has been flat all season with the exception of yesterday. I don’t like it.

Howard will K big time. Burrell’s gonna need to get on base somehow – we don’t have anyone to pinch run for him though. So, it’s going to have to be all long balls here. Home run, sac fly, something off the wall, etc. in order to score Burrell or Feliz.

He’s becoming a liability at first base. Game over – I’ll talk to you guys tomorrow.