Phillies Nation

8th inning was a nailbiter. Good game.

I turned the TV off in the 8th because I was certain the Phils were going to take the lead. Boy am I glad the bullpen came through. It’s a long season. This rivalry is getting to be a lot of fun.

Its time for a move from the GM. add an arm, a bat, something that can help. even if its from the minors. without jimmy rollins this team cant make contact and get on base except for like 2 or 3 guys. werth gives you good at bats so i cant be hard on him because he usually gets on base. utley and burrel are having good years. howard needs traded as soon as someone offers a good package. Moyer didnt get totlaly shelled sure, but hes garbage and everything he throws is garbage. except for david wright and sometimes angel pagan, the mets lineup is garbage too and a real ace will sit those guys down every time. johan santana showed us real pitching, whiffing 10 the other night. the phillies dont have that. when hes on cole is that good but hes not consistently that good just yet. steve carlton used to strike out like 12-15 guys almost every time out there. The phillies need to start hitting, charlie needs to make adjustments, gillick needs to bring in another bat and another arm and maybe thatll shake it up enough to get the team moving forward. and get rid of jamie moyer, and ryan howard. im sick of saying that every other day or so. but its so obvious.

keeping ryan howard through his prime and then letting him walk is ken rosenthals idea…why? i see his point, but then he walks, the phillies farm system still sucks and theres still no world series title. they need to move him to get the pieces to win a title. i cant see them winning with a cleanup hitter that sets strikeout records.

Howard is ailing, emotionally. He knows that he could have been brought up earlier in in his lifetime to to the majors with a different team that didnt breen their team for so long. The phillies organization has decided to capitalize on Howard ‘inexperience’ although like utley he was called up much later that guys like Upton. Look at arizona, and you can imagine what makes howard a bit frustrated. the problem is the relationship between howard and the phillies, because he feels the organization is treating him like a commidoty and thus taking advantage of him. of course, he is concerned also with the cash other wise why would he care so much? he would just go and play some ball. but at the end of the day, people should be treated fairly. and its hard to do that as the phillies when other teams are willing to offer much more cash. its hard for mlb teams to take care of their players when the slut yankees next door have that short skirt on. what then? this truly is a game of hardball.

“the mets lineup is garbage too” Where’s that broom?

AC…$10 MM a year. come on… He is like every other big paid greedy player. How can you worry about $10 MM per year?

Yesterday was the last Phillies/Mets game I will ever attend – I don’t have the energy to withstand Mets fans anymore, I just don’t.

Ryan Howard traded to Cleveland for CC Sabathia….

The Phillies signed Jim Thome to a seven year deal in December 2002. In 2002, Howard was coming off of a .280-18-87 season in Lakewood. Did anyone back then say let’s not sign Thome because we have this kid in single A who MIGHT be good someday??? Of course not. People were dancing in the streets when the Phillies finally made the big free agent score. Howard didn’t even breakout big time in the minors until 2004. So, you’re going to have to explain how “Howard could have been brought up earlier by the Phillies”.

I know phillies fans complain about how obnoxious mets fans are, But mets fans feel the same way, i was at the Mets vs Phillies game at Shea last week that went into extra innings, and there were plenty of Phillie fans there waving their jerseys, both fans annoy the other because theyre not one of them, its not really that one is more annnoying than the other like most mets and phillies fans say.

You think the phillies can afford to pay CC Sabathia, psh…

They have to lock up cole hamels long term because when it comes closer to his payday they wont want to pay him either. you get cole at a 13-15 mm per year rate if you sign him now whereas he projects to command sabathia money by the time he is that age and service time.

You move howard so that you can create free up the money to sign hamels long-term. we know that they have a fake salary cap on themselves but im jusy playing along with their little philosophy about that. howard will return players that can build a championship team who are ready to play now or next year. the phillies dont have the pitching to win this year as they stand now anyways, so you might as well get the pitching first and build the pieces while you can.

i agree, 99% of mets fans don’t bother phillies fans at games and vice-versa…one of my close friends is a phillies fan and we go to games together all the time.

I say give ryan howard a break..you know he will break out and start driving in runs in no time..WOuld you rather have Delgado??

As a Phillies fan I get the sickening feeling that Utley and Hamels will one day be playing on one of the NY teams…..

I’m tired of the Phillies not paying for their players. I just can’t believe that Philadelphia can’t afford good players.

Re: who’s fans are more obnoxious – Phillies or Mets fan I agree that each side has their share, and each their share of thug fans. It’s just baseball folks. I want my team to win more than anyone and get sickened by losing to the Mets but in the end, it’s not worth getting into fistfights over and yelling obscenities and throwing objects – for either fan base. I mean are you kidding me?

Utley signed a seven year deal and will be here through 2013. He won’t be a Met for a long time. (In fact, a lot of people look at him as the Phillies firstbaseman after Howard is dealt.) Where does this “not paying their players mantra” come from? Should they just open the checkbook and give everybody as much as they THINK they’re worth? This whole town complained when Burrell and Abreu received big deals and didn’t perform to expectations. Understand that the Red Sox, Yankees, and Mets have ownership in their cable networks which creates a huge revenue stream. Additionally, both New York teams move into new stadiums next year which will further increase their revenues. The Phillies will never have that much money coming in.

One more comment. Go read the Metsblog. Really, go read it. From what I see, they are almost surprised that the Mets pen held up the last two days. Read the running dialogue from during the game yesterday. Its was 4-1, and someone wrote ‘We almost took the first two.’ The point is, nobody is distinguishing themselves, and you just have to hang around long enough. Get ready by getting a starter and two relievers!

Prediction: Jimmy Rollins doesnt start until May. When he does he struggles for a long stretch….the Phils offense is lost without him and we never regain our footing. I hope I’m wrong…..but without a healthy Rollins the team looks like it has alot more holes than it does with him.

Rollins was just placed on the 15 day DL…

Question: why did the phils call up 2 complete scrubs for rollins and snelling? they are hitting 222 and 186 in AA and AAA. you gotta be kidding. why wasn’t jason donald brought up to start??? this is a joke. a complete joke.

LETS GO SIXERS!

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