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Philadelphia Fans Scrutinized Again

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Mon, April 21, 2008 11:45 AM | Comments: 47
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Another big, national spotlight; another big stain they’re trying to put on us.

Supposedly the fans at Friday night’s Phils-Mets game were cheering Jose Reyes’ injury, then booing when he was found to be OK.

So Billy Wagner — of course — had this to say about the fans:

“It’s really sad when humanity comes to the point where somebody getting hurt, it’s fun to watch. It’s sad when that happens. Nobody wants anybody to get hurt. I don’t want Jimmy Rollins getting hurt. I don’t want Pat Burrell to get hurt. I don’t want none of these guys. I want to compete against these guys because they’re the best, and you want to beat the best. You don’t want excuses. When you see Reyes laying there — it’s a tough shot, a clean play — and the fans cheering that he’s hurt, that just goes and shows you volumes about where our society is headed.”

“… This is about the only place I’ve ever seen somebody get cheered when they get hurt. Shit, they boo Santa Claus. What’s it tell you? They’ve taken it to a whole new level when you’re cheering for somebody to be hurt.”

I was at Friday’s game, and yes, there were some cheers when Reyes hit into Utley and remained down. That’s stupid, I agree; however, it happens most everywhere. If Rollins showed to be legitimately hurt against the Mets 10 days ago at Shea Stadium, some fans would’ve cheered wildly, I don’t doubt that for a second.

Now, the boos weren’t for Reyes being OK, it was for the amount of time wasted by the Mets. Many fans thought Reyes was merely faking the injury to ice Cole Hamels. Now that may not be the case, but before pelting us with verbal snowballs, think about the whole equation.

And let’s own up here; fans in Detroit a few years ago caused a player/fan riot, yet Philadelphia fans get attention for screaming “boo.” Come on, let’s move the hell on.

And Billy Wagner has to shut the hell up. It’s not his place. Tell him we’re sick of the Santa Claus bit — it got old in 1975.

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  • Posts: 0 chris.I

    Your absolutley right! It was about the delay of the game, the way the fan’s boo’d. Anyways..I respect what Wagner said to some extent, But I still think he’s full of shit because it was a media interview.

    What’s the word on Harman and Bohn? It’ll be nice to see some fresh faces in the lineup, and replace Bruntlett for a game or two.

     
  • Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm

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    I’d be surprised if Harman and Bohn got a lot of time out there. Harman maybe gets two starts in the next two weeks, and Bohn may get one start. They were both on the 40-man roster, so it was easy for the Phils to bring them up. Cheap moves, really.

     
  • Posts: 0 chris.I

    Yea I agree..Harman I kind of have faith in (to a point), but Bohn? What the hell was that about? They should have called up Golson instead of Bohn. Depending on Bruntlett’s production in the next few games, I think Harman has a better shot in the lineup.

     
  • Posts: 0 Brian Michael

    I hope Billy Wagner gets injured.

    Seriously though, we were talking about this last night in Denver as we were watching the game. Someone mentioned how Denver fans boo’d an injury and it didn’t get blown up by the national media. It happens all the time. People have to realize that this is business, not personal. Fans want to see opposing players out of the game, they don’t want to see them personally ruined. Sure it often overlaps, but boo-ing is not that sophisticated a jeer to make the distinction, and thus the bad rap for Philly fans.

     
  • Posts: 0 chris m

    tell billy i want to beat the hell out of him… that overated midget

     
  • Posts: 0 Bruce

    Booing “Santa Claus”…..that’s a classic!

    Just a minor correction to the infamous booing and throwing snowballs at “Santa Claus” during halftime of an Eagles game. The correct year is 1968, not 1975. Philly obviously has never quite lived down that episode. It became a legend of sorts the past 40 years and as we all know, whether unjust or not, heightened Philadelphia’s reputation for having mischievous and rowdy sports fans.

     
  • Posts: 0 Nick..Met Fan

    Brian Michael…ok i am a huge Met fan but i am honest fan of the sport. And to me the reason it got blown up the way it did was because of the “new” rivalry. But also it is wrong, even if it is business as you put, would you want one of your co-workers down and people around laughing at him cause he got hurt? You Phily fans are a bit over the top. Granted us Met fans are also. But you guys won the division last year, so show your class and act like true baseball fans. But once again i will say its because of our so called “new” rivalry and its Philly and New York, BIG media.

     
  • Posts: 0 Matt F

    I was at the games saturday and sunday and of course there were boos and chants at all the phillies fans. I witnessed the fight on saturday as well as bottles beign thrown at the mets fans on Sunday night. The reason things like this truly happen is becuase the Mets fan edge it on. They do whatever they can to get a rise out of the phillies fan and once we react they start crying about what horrible people we are. What do the visiting fans expect. When i traveled to Shea i wore my Phillies Gear and didn’t have a problem. As a visitng fan you sit there and keep your mouth shut, you may clap when there is a good play, but why edge it on. There is only one way that situation can end.

     
  • Posts: 0 JPK

    Hey, remember a few years ago when a player threw a chair into the stands at some fans that were jeering him? Oh probably not, b/c it was in Oakland and not Philly. Could you image if that happened in Philly? Also, what about when those two dudes ran on to the field and attacked the first base coach…in Chicago.

     
  • Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm

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    Bruce: I wasn’t citing the date of the incident when I wrote 1975; it’s as if I was saying “Mentioning the Eagles losing the Super Bowl against the patriots got old in 2008.”

     
  • Posts: 579 Brian Michael

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    Nick, you got your analogy wrong. I would not want a co-worker to be incapicated, rather a person at competing business. I don’t necessarily want them injuried, I want them out of business.

     
  • Posts: 0 Mike

    wake up man, they were clearly booing for Reyes being ok. The fans booed Reyes 3 times during the sequence, after erupting (more than just a few cheers) for the injury. The first set of boos was with Reyes still on the ground (apparently he was unconscious for a short period of time) and that’s understandable, they want to see the game. The second set of boos was undoubtedly a reaction to Reyes getting back to his feet. Think about it, if it was because of time, they’d be cheering then because Reyes getting to his feet would mean they’re about to get going again. The boos came with him standing up, which is unacceptable. The 3rd set of boos came when the Mets kept Reyes in the game, which I can understand. As has been said here, it’s not right to want a player to be injured, but it’s normal to want him out of the game.

     
  • Posts: 0 Clare

    I was there, most of the booing was definitely for how long he took because it seemed unnecessarily long and let’s face it, Reyes isn’t a stranger to melodrama. And when he finally got up A LOT of Phillies fans were cheering, including myself just because I feel that’s the right thing to do. Then there was more booing because he felt the need to practice running and take more time. Of course, it WOULD be blown out of proportion, we’re the most evil fans in sports history, right?

     
  • Posts: 0 BillyPenn

    I was at the game and I can admit I booed Reyes…but it was because of the ridiculous amount of time he took to say he was ok and show no ill effects of the incident. I somehow doubt highly that he was knocked unconscious but was still able to stay in the game and play. That would have been dumb on both the Mets, Reyes and the umpires’ parts because head injuries are nothing to joke about…..ask Eric Lindros

     
  • Posts: 0 erik

    Once again we philly phaithful take the blame.. bullshit.., i was at the game friday and i was under the assumption that he was stalling as well. He took a little stroll through left field that lasted well over a minute, was he conscious during that walk or was his leg cramping as well.. c’mon, and as far as fans being assholes, there were two mets fans sitting directly in front of my girlfriend and i. the entire game they were loud obnoxious and rude. i understand this harrassment about baseball, however when the one fan turned around and told my girlfriend she should dump the zero(me) and come home with the hero(his met fan buddy) i became fricking irate and told him to stop before i started swinging. he then called me an immature asshole philly fan. that makes perfect sense doesnt it.

     
  • Posts: 0 Dan

    Who gives a shit what kind of rap we get with the media? They can say all they want about us. Personally, I love it. I hope we get in their heads. Billy shouldn’t take our boos and chants personally.

     
  • Posts: 0 Gavin

    A few fans are idiots….most are great….Mets and Phillies…..so people need to get over the whole Phillyboo BS. It happens everywhere.

    Its like the whole “Booing Donovon McNabb” quote that comes out every year. Last I remember there were about a dozen drunken Egales fans at the draft. I don’t think that they get to speak for all of us. Neither do the few idiots who boo Reyes’ injury or Irvin’s injury either. 99% on both sides have class and common sense.

     
  • Posts: 0 metfan

    Matt F. you say that in your park.

    In Shea last year I witnessed philly fans giving a dude minding his own business WITH HIS KIDS a hard time. Throwing stuff at him. Why? Because he wore a Piazza shirt.

    My point both our fans are just as guilty some of your fans come to shea and look to start crap and some of our fans go to citizens and do the same thing.

    It’s pretty unfair to say one is worse then the other.

    Because theres one million examples of both teams fans starting things.

     
  • Posts: 0 Todd H

    I’m not sure if anyone said this but I’m a little tired of hearing about the booing of Santa Claus.

    If people want to point the finger at that they should take the time to educate themselves for why Santa was booed.

    The reason was, the real Santa was delayed so they pulled a Santa out of the stands. Everyone should now Santa as fat and jolly. The Santa they pulled out of the stands was skinny, very skinny compared to what Santa “looks like.”

    Morans booing for an injured player aka Michael Irvin are just that…morans!

    Go Phillies!!

    P.S. Anyone coming to Phoenix for the May 5th – 8th games vs. the D-Backs?

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    People boo because in the past few years, when METS fans come down to Philly for games…they are the most obnoxious people you could ever hope to meet… standing ovations for each base hit… “JOSE…, JOSE…, JOSE…, JOSE” …that damn annoying chant which is every bit as overrated as he is… Billy Wagner sucks, and is still mad that the fans didn’t cheer him when he gave up a home run to… Craig Biggio (what a slugger he was)…when another win would have put the Phillies into the playoffs that year.

    METS fans BOO the hell out of Jimmy Rollins everytime he gets on base, so to say that they wouldn’t boo him, or cheer his being injured is a joke… Again, its not like you want someone to actually be hurt… but if they are going to get injured and go on the DL, it might as well be against my team… It’s got all the makings of a good rilvary, but it also has all the makings of fights in the stands, and people taking this way too seriously.

    And if you want to see how bad this issue is, just remember R.J. Umberger being hit from behind, smacking his face on the dasher, to a huge round of cheers by the NY Rangers fans… and then those same fans booing Umberger when he got up and had to be carried off the ice. Didn’t even get a mention in the national papers… Reporting Philly fans booing, and bringing up snowballs at Santa Claus, is lazy journalism…and any reporter that still brings that up sucks at what he/she does.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    BILLY WAGNER is mad at Philadelphia as a whole, because they would not let him become a BOY SCOUT TROOP LEADER…

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    the mainstream sports media is largely a joke anyway. they regurgitate the same 3 or 4 discussion topics whenever they come into a city for a national tv game. they always talk about rocky and booing santa claus, negative fane and cheesesteaks every single time no matter if its national baseball, monday night football, madden, etc. its fodder for national guys like joe morgan who dont know the individual stories well enough to talk about it. gammons knows enough but you cant really have him in the booth. although, im normally hard on joe morgan, but last night he had a nice graphic comparing ryan howards swing to ted williams’ swing. showing how howards swing still has a huge hole in it and that contact hitters have little or no holes in their swings. that was actually beneficilal in some way.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chase Utley's Left Knee

    Hey guys…just taking a little time of my (Utley’s) day to say sorry for causing all of this hoopla.

    I gave Phillies Fans a reason to do something that the media would be able to securitize and for that I am truly sorry.

    Although if this wasn’t for Reyes’ soft noggin maybe this wouldn’t have happened!

    No Worries!

     
  • Posts: 0 Mr Met

    You’re wrong. Booing a player who appears to be hurt is not done
    anywhere. Philly fans are notorious for poor behavior, you treat your
    own players like crap. Philly is a no class, blue collar shot and beer
    town. You booed Billy Wagner out of town when he was the best
    closer in baseball, now who do you have? Brad Lidge? You got what
    you deserve.

     
  • Posts: 0 metfan

    Don M. FYI: Most Ranger fans are Yanks fans

     
  • Posts: 0 Sick from Philly

    I had never been to a Philly- Mets game at Citizens Bank Park, but always heard the stories. We finally went Sunday night. Now honestly I can say that it was a horrible experience. Your teams, your fans, are absolutely the most obnoxious, annoying, most inbred crap I have ever seen. All the heckling and death threats aside…some f*kin kid actually kicked a bottle towards me and my girlfriend…..a woman…he must feel like a big man. It took every ounce of self-respect and reserve to walk out of that stadium without cracking someone’s jaw. Your fans need to learn the love of the game…not the love of being a dick. Side note : I have seen many Mets games across the country….and generally the fans were fantastic and kind……..big change from the “city of brotherly love” HA..see you at shea

     
  • Posts: 0 Clare

    Oh PLEASE. I was at a game at Shea last September and even when we were just sitting there minding our own business people would come up to us and talk shit. And we were four 17 year old girls and we were getting heckled by grown men. Reaaaaaaaaal classy, Mets fans. And a Mets fan was ejected last night for throwing beer at a Phillies fan; you guys are SO superior, right?

     
  • Posts: 0 Danny

    The negative media bias doesn’t help us Philly fans anyway… Seriously, have you guys noted the disdain in the voice of any sportscenter anchor when they talk about us or our team? Especially Linda Cohn.

    Ain’t it high-time that Temple produced a sportscenter anchor?

    Our fans are no worse than Mets fans and no worse than other cities. I was at Superdome for the Eagles-Saints playoff game wearing my jersey andI had about 500 opportunities to fight.

     
  • Posts: 0 Doubleh

    The Mets own announcers said that Met fans cheered when Lastings Milledge got hit by a pitch during the Mets/Nats series last week, so the Met fans coming on here stating otherwise are full of it. However, that being said, it’s still embarassing that any fanbase does it period.

    I was there at the game and thought that was classless indeed, but also did think Reyes embellished a bit to ice Hamels.

    And enough with the Santa Claus sh*t. He’s not real, people. There’s more to the story; look it up sometime.

     
  • Posts: 0 Todd H

    re: Mr Met

    “You’re wrong. Booing a player who appears to be hurt is not done
    anywhere.”

    Really? And what research was done for that comment? Yep, only Philly boos injured players…just when I think people have brains I read something like this.

    And someone correct me if I’m wrong….but Billy Wagner aka The Rat own teammates didn’t like him and not to mention I remember him blowing a few games late in the year of ’05. Although he did have a great year I think what he said about the Phillies not be able to make the playoffs than he ends up losing a few games for the Phillies didn’t do much for him to be re-signed. Irregardless…Lidge is worse?

     
  • Posts: 0 Todd H

    Sorry I went off-topic but the fact of the matter is just about EVERY fanbase in EVERY sport has bad fans.

    I hate to say this but soon going to a sporting event in the U.S. will be like attending a soccer match in England.

    Sad as it is…lets face the fact that this type of non-sense isn’t just alive and kicking in Philadelphia.

     
  • Posts: 0 Mike

    I was at the game too and I think it was pretty clear that the boos were for him getting up and being ok. What reason would Reyes possibly have for trying to stall? His jog into left field didn’t take 30 seconds, and besides, a Philly player could’ve been walking around trying to stall for a half hour and it wouldn’t bother anyone.

    and uhh..Don M, you sound a little bitter about something…

     
  • Posts: 0 Matt F

    re: metfan

    I understand that it happens in both stadiums, the point that i think you missed is how mets fans cry about it when it happens in philly. How many articles do you see in the papers or stories on the news about how phillies fans were mistreated at shea. You Dont! If you want to edge it on don’t complain about how we treat you when you are hear. Everytime there is an incident its the same old thing, It’s always about how we are horrible people and fans. Same story different year, the media needs to find something else to write about.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew S.

    No doubt the favor would be returned if Jimmy Rollins went down in New York. I think it is just hypocritical to think this does not happen anywhere else.

     
  • Posts: 0 Kelly

    The boos were definitely for him taking forever to get back in the game. If he was so hurt, he would have been taken out and he probably wouldn’t been able to run home a couple minutes later.

    Billy Wagner hates Philly, no wonder he said those comments. This is definitely not the first time he talked about the Phillies fans.

    Sick from Philly: Oh no someone kicked a plastic bottle at you and you girl? How sad. Are you kidding me? Yeah and Mets fans are totally hospitable to Phillies fans who come up to Shea…give me a break.

    We’ll at least now you know how horrible we all are, right? Maybe next time you should stay up in North Jersey to watch the game. We’ll miss you.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Big Irish

    It’s so easy to bang Wagner here. However, he is absolutely correct that the cheering of an injured player is low class. To defend it with comments that “Mets fans are just as bad” is typical Philly. It’s long past time for Philadelphians to cheer our own and leave the low-class antics where they belong, to the New Yorkers. Do I like to especially beat the Cowboys? Of course. Do I like to boo them? Of course. Do I love to see T.O. drop passes, or look soft, or some such occurrence when we play? Absolutely. Do I want to see T.O. get hurt? No, not at all. I want to beat him. Do I think there is anything funny or redeeming about shirts that read: “Dallas Sucks, T.O. Swal**ws!”? NO. Low-class is low-class. We should be passionate, not trashy. Period.

     
  • Posts: 0 Sick from Philly

    Kelly bitch….try fucking glass bottles and next time you and your man decide to come to shea wear a fuckin target so i know where to aim my glass….then fukin talk…the fact is that your fans get scrutinized for a reason, just remember that. There is no woe is me story here….stop denying that your fan base sucks and do something about it. Otherwise I guess sports in US will turn like soccer and we’ll all have to form firms and kick the shit out of eachother…..that would be a lot cooler than being trashy!

     
  • Posts: 0 Todd H

    re: Sick from Philly

    Hey man no need to go there with that.

    It’s sad that ANYONE wearing the visitors gear gets treated like this or worse.

    I have both been a part of it, ie: I’m a Sabres fan and got into a fight leaving a game that the Flyers won with two morans that swung at me first with my girlfriend. And I’ve seen PLENTY of this happen to other people…is P-A-T-H-L-E-T-I-C !

    I wish the entire sports world acted with class like Packers fans. Where they embrace the visitiing fans…at least that is what I’ve heard 50 times or more.

     
  • Posts: 0 Kelly

    Well sick from philly, your post implied that it happened in the stadium, where there aren’t glass bottles.

    But yeah, go ahead and throw a bottle at me (a girl) like you threatened. The same exact thing you are complaining about happening to you and your girl. Hypocrite. Like I said it goes both ways, for every bottle throwing Phillies fan, there is a bottle throwing threatening Mets fan- you.

    I am just saying it goes both ways. I didn’t kick the bottle at your girlfriend.

     
  • Posts: 0 John

    I am sick of visiting fans complaining. Save us your whining by just staying home next time. Home field advantage is what it is because the crowd is predominantly fans of the home team. Crowd noise and support is the only direct advantage we can give our teams. When visiting fans pour into the stadium, they take away that edge. Our name calling and chants are meant to discourage you from attending. But it never escalates above name calling unless a visiting fan opens his mouth or does something stupid.

    Unfortunately, “Sick from Philly”, even if what you are saying is true and someone did actually kick a plastic bottle at you, I guarantee you did something first to escalate the situation and put your girlfriend in danger. No offense, my friend, but let’s review what we know about you.

    (1) Direct quote: “It took every ounce of self-respect and reserve to walk out of that stadium without cracking someone’s jaw.” From this, we know that it was indeed a plastic bottle, because there are only plastic bottles allowed in the stadium. We also know that you’re short tempered because you’re ready to fight at the drop of a hat (or kick of a piece of plastic). It didn’t matter who’s jaw you cracked – you just wanted to hit someone.

    (2) Direct quotes: “try fucking glass bottles and next time you and your man decide to come to shea wear a fuckin target so i know where to aim my glass” From this we know that you are (a) a liar who got really defensive when he got called on it, (b) a hypocrite who would choose to escalate the violence against a woman, and (c) probably crazier and more short-tempered than any of us initially thought.

    (3) You come onto Phillies Nation to whine and complain about your experience. You go out of your way and take time out of your day to go to a Phillies website and complain about their fans. From this we know that you are confrontational. I mean, seriously, what’s was your point? I’m all for inter-city sports discussion, but what did you expect to accomplish?
    You: “You guys are animals. I’m ashamed.”
    Us: “Point taken. You’ve made us see the light. Tickets for next series are 1/2 off for Mets fans!”
    Please. A non-confrontational person would have went on a Mets website to vent, or warn other fans about going to the stadium. You came here to rail on our fans, and that says a lot about you attitude.

    So, all in all, you’re confrontational, short-tempered, defensive, and nutty as a fruitcake. That’s the type of visiting fan who escalates the situation by mouthing off, cheering for an obnoxious amount of time, and showing absolutely no respect for your host. And it’s that type of fan than has no business coming into our house.

    I’ve been up to Shea many times. I’ve always wore Phillies shirts. I’ve been cursed, threatened, and spit upon. I take it. Not because I don’t have any pride or self-respect, but because (1) I know I am a guest in Shea and (2) I know that responding is only going to land me in the hospital or jail. Keep your mouth shut and don’t respond to provocation, and you’ll be fine. Hundreds of your fellow Mets fans already do that at every Mets/Phils game and have perfectly good experiences.

     
  • Posts: 0 Slugwart

    “Oooh… if it woulda happened to our guy somewhere else, those fans would have cheered… so we have an excuse to be the dregs of all sports fans… because we expect everyone else to be just like us! :P”

    Its such a big issue because it DOESN’T happen everywhere else. And if it has, its equally deplorable. Try to take the high road instead of excusing your crappy attitude with lame excuses. My 3 years olds (twin girls… oh my) use the “She did it first!” excuse all the time. BUT THEY’RE THREE!!!!

     
  • Posts: 0 Kelly

    For his bad experience, I am sure we could find one at Shea. I am not saying it is right, I am saying, maybe it doesn’t happen “everywhere else” but it does happen in other places, and I have experienced it.

    I don’t do anything this guy was talking about. I just find it dumb to complain on here when I know the people on here aren’t the people acting like that.

    He is coming in here bashing Phillies fans, when most of the people at the Phillies-Mets game did nothing to any Met’s fans (even though a bunch of them I see at Phillies game are obnoxious and I would love nothing more than to kick a plastic bottle at them, I am classier than that). I have season tickets and I know that most of the people who sit around me or who I see at games are classier than that also. I am sick all philadelphia fans of being generalized.

     
  • Posts: 0 Sam

    OK, so I am a Mets fan but more than that I am a huge fan of the game. Now I was not there but i saw video after video of it and you can clearly hear the cheers as soon as people realize Reyes is hurt. Also, if you watch the video you will notice that Reyes said from teh time he could stand that he was okay and would be able to play. The manager and trainer had to take a while to make sure he didnt have a concussion or any side affects, it had nothing to do with Cole Hamels. And, Chase Utley immediately went to Reyes to see if he was okay before, durign adn after the collison. If the opposing player cares shouldnt the fans? Do you guys really want to see someone seriously hurt right in front of you, because Reyes could have been. It is a game and sometimes the fans need to remmeber that. Usually they are the Philly fans (of all sports) but thats ok.

    And opposing players have gotten hurt at Shea before (even Chipper Jones, the one an we all detest) and those fans may have cheered to begin with but when they realized he was seriously hurt I know they stopped. We would never want to see any player hurt. If Jimmy Rollins was hurt and we beat yall it wouldnt feel the same cause we didnt beat the best yall had. I cannot believe Philadelphia reacted like that. ANd if you disagree with me, search the topic and see what some of yor own players and columnists had to say. You’ll hate yourself for wanting a great person hurt.

     
  • Posts: 0 Phillies are Gay

    SHUT THE FUCK UP! PHILLIE FANS ARE THE BIGGEST PIECES OF WHITE TRASH BUSH LEAGUE IGNORANT SHIT ON THE PLANET. YOU ALL ARE HATED EVERYWHERE ELSE. YOUR TEAM IS FULL OF DICKHEADS TOO. THE PHILLIES BLOW. PHILLIE FANS ARE IGNORANT VIOLENT DRUNK WHITE TRASH. KILL YOURSELF!

     
  • Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm

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    I mean, you gotta take that caps lock off. Really. Sheesh.

     
  • Posts: 0 tony

    Your Mom.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    “Mr.Met” and “Phillies are Gay”…are actually a couple of very nice guys… they live together in a quaint apartment in North Jersey, which in their eyes is “close enough” to New York to consider themselves new yorkers… they have a one bedroon, one bath apartment, which doesn’t seem to bother them at all since they share a queen-size bed.. and every Tuesday night is… BUBBLE BATH NIGHT!!! I’m not sure how they both fit into the tub at once, but they usually don’t stay in the tub too long anyway. I mean, someone has to get out to change the cd player.. Madonna gets old after a while…

     
 
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