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Another Blowout: Myers, Offense Rip Marlins, 12-3

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Fri, May 30, 2008 10:35 PM | Comments: 28
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Best win of the year.

Chris Coste knocked a three-run home run in the second inning, Shane Victorino followed that up with a two-run double, then Chase Utley slammed the coffin lid shut with a two-run line shot, his Major League-leading 18th homer of the season. When the dust ran from the coffin the score was 7-3, and from there it was easy street.

Ryan Howard, for good measure, slanted his 15th off the fair pole, and the Phils would win 12-3 over the Marlins. It’s May 30, and the Phillies are alone in first place in the National League Eastern division.

Brett Myers was the real star of the game. After a poor first inning he settled in and dominated. He struck out 11, locating and attacking with his fastball, then burying hitters with his splendid curveball. When hitters weren’t striking out they were popping and flying out harmlessly. He may not be hitting the mid-90s with the fastball, but if he continues to use it properly there won’t be cause for panic. Tonight it all came together for Myers. More of this, we beg you.

Offensively, do we ever give Chris Coste credit? He plays once every two or three games and puts up absurd numbers. Tonight he stands at .341 with 5 HR and 16 RBI. For a platooning catcher with little Major League experience, that’s overly impressive, and some of us have to start thinking about writing Coste’s name onto the All-Star ballot. Then there’s Victorino, who extended his hitting streak to 11 games and scored two runs. (He also nailed Hanley Ramirez with a line drive; hopefully Ramirez will be OK.) Pedro Feliz had two hits, raising his average to .269.

Between Myers’ fantastic outing (innings two through eight) and the offense’s continuing slayings of opposing pitching staffs, this win tasted best of all. Confidence in the team is at a season high, and seemingly, the best is still to come. While there’s absolutely no way we should get ahead of ourselves, this win demonstrated that this baseball club is a superb one — one capable of big things.

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  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    See starts like this make me think maybe Myers isnt hurt but its all in his head. when he pitches like this, the rotation is actually half-decent, though i still need more stability as stated before. i want a number two starter WITH myers pitching well. i want him to play well and stay here, even though hes a jackass, because with three solid starters up front pitching consistently each time out with this offense running on all cylinders, this team is the best in baseball.

    key ideas here:

    1)myers needs to be consistent

    2) the offense needs to be consistent and work the counts like they have been doing. when you make the starter throw a lot of pitches early the game usually turns to your favor more often than not. the offense ive seen over the past few days is absolutely ridiculous and totally awesome to watch.

    3) they still need a solid number two starter even if myers is pitching well

    4) id like to see someone else of quality to help out in the bullpen so that other guys dont have to be overused. alwys important in the playoffs.

    5) either adam eaton needs stabilize and get wins or they need someone who can in the 5th spot

    6) moyer is moyer and kendrick is kendrick. i still dont trust moyer down the stretch, i need someone ready to step in if he goes. kendrick has found an outpitch to work on and he can improve over the season. that will be fun to watch i hope.

    if these things fal into place i think this team can win the world series.

    I am very cautious about this, because its May 31, but i think some or all of things things could materialize over the regular season so that theyre ready for a playoff run that takes them to the top.

    theyve shown what they can do at their best. at their best theyre unstoppable, but can they be consistently good from here on out and run away with this divsion and blast through the playoffs? i dont know yet, i still wants some of the aforementioned things to happen first, but i certaintly hope so.

    also, im going to see hamels pitch on sat so hed better crank it up this time out. the last time i saw him pitch he allowed one hit through 7 innings against the cubs. awesome. hope he can top that this time.

    4)

     
  • Posts: 0 Greg V.

    Aside from the horrific start, I’d say this was the best I have ever seen Myers! Something just clicked inside and all of a sudden he was the best pitcher in baseball for the rest of the game. Tremendous performance from the man today.

     
  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    How about a fish fry boys?
    Yesterday I was at Walmart and bought myself a broom. I will be painting the handle red and hopefully I will have the occasion to take it with me to another Phillies sweep. I too will be down Saturday and will see Cole for the first time this year.
    When my friend goes on Sunday, I’ll offer him the broom!

     
  • Posts: 0 Lewisauce

    Wow. This was unbelievable.

    This is the kind of play at home I’ve been talking about. You can’t just win at home, especially against a fraudulent division rival with first-place on the line. You have to win big. You have to crush their souls and sow despair in their hearts. This offense is capable of terrifying anyone, and the ones who should be the most frightened are the ones who come to our park when it counts.

    Now the Fish have to face our best pitcher. Oh, and our lock-down bullpen? Those guys are fresh and bloodthirsty. (Well, maybe stiff and rusty after a few days off, but let’s hope not.)

    If Myers can keep this up, I am OK with this rotation. Not happy, but OK (with the exception of Eaton, who will eventually need to be replaced).

     
  • Posts: 0 Lewisauce

    Final thought: Tim brings up a good point. Anyone else think that Coste should play more? I mean, this might be a situation where he’s more comfortable playing three days a week, and any more than that will have a “diminishing returns” effect, but at least for right now, shouldn’t we be going with the hot bat as the regular starter? He’ll cool off eventually, and that’s when you use Ruiz more. But seriously, the 33-year-old rookie is the man and should be getting the majority of the PT as long as his BA is a hundred points higher than the other guy’s.

    Thoughts?

     
  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    Greg, May 3rd vs Giants – 7 in; 6 hits, 2 runs; 3 BB; 10 K’s
    Brett tossed 121 pitches that game, ND – just after that his ERA jumped through the stratosphere.
    Since, 21.1 in; 34 hits; 19 ER (22 all told) for a 8.34 ERA (not including last night) and 0-4.
    Is Brett back?
    The 2 games before May 3rd, 12 in; 19 hits; 10 ER; for a 7.50 ERA
    Anyone know – is Brett back?

     
  • Posts: 0 Lewisauce

    Brooks: Too early to pronounce Brett Myers “back.” He put together seven excellent innings. But “back” is an odd term, especially when it comes to Brett Myers.

    You’re talking about a guy who is well talented enough to be a legit No. 2 in the big leagues, but who has never been consistent. He’s never been able to keep his head straight enough to put together a full season of really good ball. I don’t know what “back” is with Brett Myers, because it’s impossible to define where he is returning to. His evil twin (the guy who can implode at any moment) has always been with him.

    Now that I’ve typed it, I don’t want Brett Myers “back,” because that implies a return to the inconsistent form that has defined his career. I want him to play to his potential.

     
  • Posts: 0 Mike T.

    Impressed with this game for sure, but still not impressed with the outlook of the season – get me another 1 or 2 pitcher, and we’ll talk.

     
  • Posts: 0 Phil

    Everyone hates on Eaton, but have you actually watched the guy pitch this season? He’s had 3 rough outings. The rest of his outings have been superior for a 5th of the rotation starter. He has a 4.99 ERA which is nothing to scoff at for a 5th starter in the rotation. The guy isn’t Cole Hamels, he is what he is, and he is a ground ball pitcher which is good for our ball park. He only has 1 win because we weren’t scoring runs for him. If Eaton can pitch with under a 5.0 ERA and go 6 innings a game for most of his starts the rest of the season then I’ll be thrilled with Eaton. If Myers can pitch like he did last night for the rest of the season, and Moyer and Kendrick can pitch how they’ve been pitching lately then the World Series is ours. Our offense, bullpen, and bench are the best in baseball, and our defense is pretty good too. Even if a key player goes down, then you’re going to have a someone pretty good backing him up. The NL East is ours, and hopefully we can take it all if our starters can hold it together. Now I wait for the bash session for backing up Eaton.

     
  • Posts: 0 Bill

    It was the best win of the year. It was a beautiful night at the park and after the first inning the Phillies offense just put it into gear and took over. We really need to win tonight and take the pressure off of Sunday. Although with Hamels and Moyer against these young hitters, a sweep could be in order!

    http://myteamrivals.typepad.com/phightin_phils_phorum

     
  • Posts: 0 big c

    coste needs to start period

     
  • Posts: 0 Bruce

    Phil~

    I’m glad there is another voice of reason here. I agree with you about Eaton. There is a mindset of a few here to bash Eaton regardless of his improved performance this season. I had posted earlier that Eaton now has allowed three or fewer runs in EIGHT of his eleven starts. But the bashing of Eaton continues without credence. I wonder what those few anti-Eaton “critics” want from a no. 5 starter?

     
  • Posts: 0 Bruce

    Oh…. and these are the same anti-Eaton “critics” who wanted to have Myers put on the DISABLED LIST. (chuckle)

     
  • Posts: 0 Lewisauce

    If he’s our No. 5, why are we paying him $7.6 million?

    Bruce, Phil: Yous have a point. He’s improved. Many of his starts this season have been acceptable. But his starts have not justified the money the team has committed to him. His performance overall as a Phillie has been unacceptable. I am generally not a chicken-little “sky is falling” type, but in the case of Eaton, such pessimism is justified.

    He must go the ENTIRE season with quality start after quality start before his past misdeeds are forgiven. He was very arguably the worst regular starter in the NL last year. He needs an entire good year before I even grudgingly give him a nod.

     
  • Posts: 0 Greg V.

    Brooks, I did not declare him back. His next start could be terrible for all we know. Nothing is guaranteed. Watching him pitch for the rest of the game (even in the 2nd inning when we we’re still down) was seriously some of the best pitching I’ve seen from Myers. He has yet to win my confidence back but I’m not going to sit around and mope about his bad days when he just had a really good one. It was a fantastic win yesterday.

     
  • Posts: 0 Greg

    i just want to point out that Howard had a GREAT AB to draw that walk that opened the floodgates in the 2nd.

    That and for all the Eaton talk:

    Quality Starts/Start:
    Myers: 5/12
    Hamels: 6/11
    Moyer: 6/11
    Kendrick: 6/10 *not counting the 1IP rainout
    Eaton: 6/11

    I admit I was ready to send Myers to Lehigh Valley after the 1st.

     
  • Posts: 0 TwoTonsOfIrony

    Phil I agree with you about Eaton. Lewis the argument that he is making so much money can be an argument that he is a disappointment, but that does not mean that he is not a successful 5th starter, just that he is an overpaid successful 5th starter. So they signed him for too much, what is putting him in the minors going to do to help that? You may not be ready to forgive him for his past transgressions, and I would agree with you, before he earns my trust he needs a whole season, but stop saying that he isn’t fit to be the 5th starter and that we need to bring someone else in. And btw the 5th starter average era for the whole league is over 6.

     
  • Posts: 0 Phil

    Glad to see some people are actually on my side. I know Phillies fans are very harsh towards their players, but even last year…Eaton had 10 wins. Find me a 5th starter on any club last year with 10 wins. Eaton’s poor ERA came from some horrible outtings but a lot of those 10 wins were quality starts. He is extremely over paid, blame Gillick for that, but he’s effective for a 5th starter, maybe even a 4th. As far as bashing a starting pitcher is concerned I’d have to go with Myers for the year, not Eaton.

     
  • Posts: 0 Mike T.

    We won’t be a World Series contender unless we get another 1 or 2 pitcher. I’m not even going to waste my time arguing with anyone because I know I’m right.

     
  • Posts: 0 Bruce

    Lewisauce~

    Of course, you’re entitled to your opinion regarding your estimation of Eaton’s value as 5th starter. However, it’s THIS season that we should be concern with. And it is THIS season that we see strong evidence of Eaton’s maturation as a FIFTH starter at least in the early going. He has obviously benefitted from a close working relationship with pitching coach, Rich Dubee. You SHOULD want a season’s worth of quality starts from Eaton WITHOUT MAKING PREJUDGEMENT. I can agree with that.

    I like to comment on your post about Chris Coste and the quote “… the 33-year-old rookie is the man and should be getting the majority of the PT as long as his BA is a hundred points higher than the other guy’s.”

    You probably were thinking of Coste’s autobiographical book title..”33-Year-Old Rookie” when you made that comment. ;-) This is his third year with the Phillies. I have been a strong supporter of Coste for MORE playing time since 2006 (.328 BA in 65 games) on other websites devoted to Phillies fans. If you look at his splits for his .341 BA this season, you can see as a righthanded hitter he hits righties .339 (21 for 62; .397 OBP) as well as lefties.. .345 (10 for 29; .424 OBP). So, YES, Coste should play more.

     
  • Posts: 0 Phil

    Myers can be a #2 starter if he comes around, and if Kendrick can pitch like he did last year then he’s a #2 starter. We have a #1 starter already. Moyer is a good #3. Our starting pitching is coming along. I think Coste should start more too, but he’s not as good defensively as Ruiz, and a defensive catcher is very very important.

     
  • Posts: 0 Rob Cowie

    I was at the game last night and it was popping. We walked up fot tickets at about 330 and all that was left are SROs which we purchased. The crowd was electic throughout, and scoring a ton of runs definetly helps. I’d say it mirrored playoff atmosphere.

    Ill be there again tonight so hopefully the weather holds out.

     
  • Posts: 0 TwoTonsOfIrony

    I have to disagree a little about Phil’s assessment of the rotation. I won’t go quite as far as Mike who I think believes that you must have two of the top 5 starters to win a series. The point is that the world series winner, with a few exceptions, has some very good/solid pitchers who catch fire towards the end of the season and run them through the playoffs, not so much that they are dominant the whole year. However, I would not say that Kendrick is close to being a #2. While the #1 should dominate (and i mean DOMINATE!) most of the time he takes the mound, the #2 should be able to dominate close to half of the starts. Kendrick has shown me the ability to be consistent and solid, but I do not see him throwing a dominant performance out there. He has always had a high WHIP and he makes it work but that also means he is on the verge of letting it break every go around. He is the perfect #3 and I love what he has done in his year of service, but if Myers can fill that #2 they are fine, if he can’t they have a hole.

     
  • Posts: 0 Phil

    I’m not saying Kendrick is a #2 for sure, but he was last season. If he can come around and perform in the future like he did last season, he’s a solid #3 possible #2 guy. He’s a sinkerball ground ball pitcher and that’s great for CBP. He also has better poise than anyone. Nothing rattles that guys cages. I like Kendrick a lot, and I don’t think Phillies fans give him enough credit. Let him come out of his sophmore slump and see how he does.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    theyll probably win the division, but i dont care about that. they need more starting pitching to get to and win the world series. they just do, its proven true over generations and all eras of baseball. pitching and defense win championships.

    the offense is great when theyre on, no doubt that when this team is hitting theyre the best offense in baseball by far.

    this week has proven that al they need to do now is sure up a few things and they can win a championship. those things being strengthening the pen and the rotation, maybe adding someone to the lineup and ensuring that the team hits consistently.

    we have to stay on this and demand performances like this. championship teams never let up and never take their foot off the pedal. the white sox were in first place all season and never let up at all the year then won the world series. thats usually the case with champions.

     
  • Posts: 0 Mark

    Another electrifying offensive performance and Myers, awesome after the first inning. And this team hasn’t hit full stride yet. Waiting for Howard to get hot along with the others.

     
  • Posts: 0 ryan

    Brett Myers needs to pitch like that consistently and we will have a shot at winning the world series. I believe if brett and hamels pitch to the best of their capabilities this year, with our offense we will win the world series.

    i’ve voted for the allstar team several times in the past few days and every time i’ve written in chris coste on my ballot. he really is a great player. i want to see him as the #1 guy very soon. he plays great defense along with contributing way more offense than ruiz could ever dream of. pitchers always seem to throw good games when he’s behind the plate. and he does a great job of throwing out runners and blocking the plate.

     
  • Posts: 0 Lewisauce

    Phil, I love the optimism, but I don’t see Kendrick as a No. 2 starter. He was forced into that role last year because of injuries, and he did a nice job of giving the offense a chance to win. I like Kendrick. Do not get me wrong; this is NOT a knock on Kendrick. But I think his future is a solid bottom of the rotation guy (No. 4-5) with potential to be a No. 3.

    Bruce et.al.: I see what you mean about Eaton, and I think what I’m going to do is adopt a new “personal Eaton policy.” I will try (and feel free to hold me to it) not to bitch and moan about the guy UNLESS he stinks it up again. As long as he pitches the way he has so far this year, I will try to either say nice things or no things or neutral things. If he sucks it up, he deserves the opening of the floodgates of wrath.

    Speaking of the gates of doom, I’m still leaning in the direction of the Mike T. camp. We need another solid middle- to top-of-the-rotation guy if we are to contend for the championship. I don’t know how we acquire that person (trade Burrell? I hate to lose his clubhouse leadership. Trade Vic? Well, there seems to be a correlation between his recent success and the recent overall team offensive assault), but I think we’re another starter away from going all the way. Even if no one stinks it up this year (ala recent Myers, last year’s Eaton, etc.), someone is BOUND to get hurt. A proven starter is better than our emergency options (Happ, Bastardo, Chad Durbin, etc.). Maybe Benson is that guy, but probably not. At this point in his career, his maximum potential is a bottom-of-the-rotation guy.

    Glad we’re all in agreement about Coste.

     
 
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