Comments on: Another Day, Another Late Win For Phils http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:33:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: no kasinohttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-18222 no kasino Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:06:35 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-18222 <strong>no kasino</strong>printer?symphony plural grinning linkage no kasino

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]]> By: Tommy Ahttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-6181 Tommy A Thu, 08 May 2008 14:38:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-6181 Bruce --You may have missed my point. I'm talking about baseball in general...the old adage, "pitching wins championships." That's what everyone says, and I don't dispute that. You very rarely hear "hitting wins championships." But people freak out when a former MVP is hitting in the .160's...as they are now. By the way, have you ever seen a hitting slump like this? Ever? I've watched the Phils for 35 years, and never have. Not even Burrell at his worst was as bad as Howard is now. Bruce –

You may have missed my point. I’m talking about baseball in general…the old adage, “pitching wins championships.” That’s what everyone says, and I don’t dispute that. You very rarely hear “hitting wins championships.” But people freak out when a former MVP is hitting in the .160′s…as they are now. By the way, have you ever seen a hitting slump like this? Ever? I’ve watched the Phils for 35 years, and never have. Not even Burrell at his worst was as bad as Howard is now.

]]> By: Brucehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5957 Bruce Tue, 06 May 2008 15:42:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5957 Tommy A~ How closely do you follow the Phillies? PITCHING for the most part is what kept the team afloat and on a winning track (19-14). The starting rotation and particularly the bullpen which has been exceptional with a ERA that is second only to Arizona in the NL. Lidge and Gordon have been going great in their roles. Pitching indeed is name of the game which compensates certain hitting slumps. :-) Tommy A~
How closely do you follow the Phillies? PITCHING for the most part is what kept the team afloat and on a winning track (19-14). The starting rotation and particularly the bullpen which has been exceptional with a ERA that is second only to Arizona in the NL. Lidge and Gordon have been going great in their roles. Pitching indeed is name of the game which compensates certain hitting slumps. :-)

]]> By: Tommy Ahttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5933 Tommy A Tue, 06 May 2008 01:05:46 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5933 It's funny how we're always told this game is about pitching. Pitching. Pitching. Pitching. That is, until your clean up hitter and former MVP is batting .167 with 45 K's. All of a sudden Gordon and Madson aren't so scary. It’s funny how we’re always told this game is about pitching. Pitching. Pitching. Pitching. That is, until your clean up hitter and former MVP is batting .167 with 45 K’s. All of a sudden Gordon and Madson aren’t so scary.

]]> By: Vernon Dozierhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5926 Vernon Dozier Mon, 05 May 2008 18:49:13 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5926 There were huge red flags last year with Howard. He took a 45 point drop in BA from 2006, and his strikeout rate increased. Those aren't exactly good signs, and a lot of HRs have a tendency to make people overlook those bad signs. This isn't a case of fans being "fickle". This is a case of people looking at a disturbing trend. There were huge red flags last year with Howard. He took a 45 point drop in BA from 2006, and his strikeout rate increased. Those aren’t exactly good signs, and a lot of HRs have a tendency to make people overlook those bad signs. This isn’t a case of fans being “fickle”. This is a case of people looking at a disturbing trend.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5925 Geoff Mon, 05 May 2008 18:29:22 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5925 You cant have your cleanup hitter lead the league in strikeouts. Not if you want to play championship baseball. You move him out of that slot and let him fix himself in the 5 or even the 6 slot with less pressure. good to see myers trying to fix himself. hed better... You cant have your cleanup hitter lead the league in strikeouts. Not if you want to play championship baseball. You move him out of that slot and let him fix himself in the 5 or even the 6 slot with less pressure. good to see myers trying to fix himself. hed better…

]]> By: Jasonhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5924 Jason Mon, 05 May 2008 18:26:06 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5924 Umm lets see no one said the guy should not be in the line-up but isn't the point more like what is best for the Phillies not just one player? This is a team sport correct? Also I think what others, as well as myself, are also saying that he does not deserve the 10 million he is making - especailly because that is what HE asked for! So before we start throwing out every cliché about fans we should really understand what is being said.BTW I wish for a month I could suck that bad at my job and still get paid 10,000,000 Umm lets see no one said the guy should not be in the line-up but isn’t the point more like what is best for the Phillies not just one player? This is a team sport correct? Also I think what others, as well as myself, are also saying that he does not deserve the 10 million he is making – especailly because that is what HE asked for! So before we start throwing out every cliché about fans we should really understand what is being said.

BTW I wish for a month I could suck that bad at my job and still get paid 10,000,000

]]> By: Don Mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5922 Don M Mon, 05 May 2008 16:55:51 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5922 "What have you done for me lately..." What he has done ALL SEASON is lead the league in strikeouts, and make teams excited when the #4 spot in the Phillies lineup comes to the plate. Nobody is calling for his head, but until he finds that power-stroke, he should not be the guy we count on to knock in runs... Burrell belongs in the #4 right now, and there is no valid arguement against that. “What have you done for me lately…” What he has done ALL SEASON is lead the league in strikeouts, and make teams excited when the #4 spot in the Phillies lineup comes to the plate. Nobody is calling for his head, but until he finds that power-stroke, he should not be the guy we count on to knock in runs… Burrell belongs in the #4 right now, and there is no valid arguement against that.

]]> By: Brucehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5921 Bruce Mon, 05 May 2008 16:08:55 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5921 To those few here who were ready to run Brett Myers out of town. ;-)Team report:RHP Brett Myers played long-toss and studied video between starts last week, trying to figure out where his fastball velocity had gone. He seemingly found some answers. Myers’ fastball climbed back into the low-90s Saturday night after dipping into the mid-80s in his previous start, and he stuck with the pitch rather than relying on his cutter. The result: Myers allowed two runs in seven strong innings and struck out a season-high 10 batters against the Giants. “I looked back (at the radar-gun reading on the scoreboard), and once I saw what I wanted to see, I was able to keep throwing it and pitch off it,” Myers said. “I was able to locate it and throw it enough where it set the rest of my pitches up.” Myers, the Phillies’ opening-day starter, is 2-2 with a 4.70 ERA in seven starts.Last time I look at the calendar it's May 5th and 32 games (18-14) into the season. It's seems that a few here has a new favorite "whipping boy" in Ryan Howard. Never mind what Howard has accomplished for the team in the past 3 years. It's 'what have you done for me lately" to some fickle fans. As a long time baseball fan, I know every single player will have their share of peaks and valleys during the course of a 162 game season. May I remind you that Howard had almost the same numbers (HRs, RBIs and BA) last season in April. With his track record, I have expectations of seeing Howard gradually finding his stroke thanks in part to the patience of the manager and his teammates.BTW, as noted by Manuel and Howard himself, he is showing signs of seeing the ball better and having the patience to wait for good pitches. Even in yesterday game, Howard's patience was a factor when he received the second of two walks in the game (9th inning) and hustled home with the winning run on an error. To those few here who were ready to run Brett Myers out of town. ;-)

Team report:

RHP Brett Myers played long-toss and studied video between starts last week, trying to figure out where his fastball velocity had gone. He seemingly found some answers. Myers’ fastball climbed back into the low-90s Saturday night after dipping into the mid-80s in his previous start, and he stuck with the pitch rather than relying on his cutter. The result: Myers allowed two runs in seven strong innings and struck out a season-high 10 batters against the Giants. “I looked back (at the radar-gun reading on the scoreboard), and once I saw what I wanted to see, I was able to keep throwing it and pitch off it,” Myers said. “I was able to locate it and throw it enough where it set the rest of my pitches up.” Myers, the Phillies’ opening-day starter, is 2-2 with a 4.70 ERA in seven starts.

Last time I look at the calendar it’s May 5th and 32 games (18-14) into the season. It’s seems that a few here has a new favorite “whipping boy” in Ryan Howard. Never mind what Howard has accomplished for the team in the past 3 years. It’s ‘what have you done for me lately” to some fickle fans. As a long time baseball fan, I know every single player will have their share of peaks and valleys during the course of a 162 game season. May I remind you that Howard had almost the same numbers (HRs, RBIs and BA) last season in April. With his track record, I have expectations of seeing Howard gradually finding his stroke thanks in part to the patience of the manager and his teammates.

BTW, as noted by Manuel and Howard himself, he is showing signs of seeing the ball better and having the patience to wait for good pitches. Even in yesterday game, Howard’s patience was a factor when he received the second of two walks in the game (9th inning) and hustled home with the winning run on an error.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5920 Geoff Mon, 05 May 2008 15:42:51 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5920 Yeah they need to do a better job of serperating the left-handed hitters in the lineup. I think they need another right handed bat with some pop. feliz's bat doesnt have much pop left in it. Pat Burrell belongs in the 4 right now. he just does. Yeah they need to do a better job of serperating the left-handed hitters in the lineup. I think they need another right handed bat with some pop. feliz’s bat doesnt have much pop left in it. Pat Burrell belongs in the 4 right now. he just does.

]]> By: Joe DiMaggiohttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5919 Joe DiMaggio Mon, 05 May 2008 15:11:29 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5919 Agree that Howard needs to be moved to the 5th spot in the lineup as a permanent change and not just a stopgap. They need to break up the lefty-lefty problem and Howard could use being pitched around for a while.When Rollins comes back, Howard would still have Feliz or Jayson Werth/Jenkins hitting behind him and all of those guys are 20-30 season home run hitters. So it will still be tough to pitch around him but he will still get his share of walks in front of those hitters. Agree that Howard needs to be moved to the 5th spot in the lineup as a permanent change and not just a stopgap. They need to break up the lefty-lefty problem and Howard could use being pitched around for a while.

When Rollins comes back, Howard would still have Feliz or Jayson Werth/Jenkins hitting behind him and all of those guys are 20-30 season home run hitters. So it will still be tough to pitch around him but he will still get his share of walks in front of those hitters.

]]> By: Don Mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5918 Don M Mon, 05 May 2008 14:58:49 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5918 Arizona hasn't really played anyone yet... the NL West is like a AA-league right now, with some of the worst teams in baseball calling it home... I think they get Webb on Thursday.. I guess vs. Myers (would be HUGE to win that one)Arizona packs a pretty solid lineup, a strong rotation, but the Phillies have one of the best lineups in the NL... they say that good pitching beats good hitting.. so this should be an interesting series to watch.. a 4-3 record on this trip would be huge..As for Howard.. I think they need to drop him to 5th right now.. it'll break up the Lefty-Lefty which hurts them late in games, give Burrell a chance at a few extra at-bats while he's still seeing the ball so well... dropping Howard to 7th would KILL his confidence, I think they would probably just sit him before they moved him that far down the order. He'll start hitting at some point, but until he does, you can't have him in the 4-hole where you need to get RBIs Arizona hasn’t really played anyone yet… the NL West is like a AA-league right now, with some of the worst teams in baseball calling it home… I think they get Webb on Thursday.. I guess vs. Myers (would be HUGE to win that one)

Arizona packs a pretty solid lineup, a strong rotation, but the Phillies have one of the best lineups in the NL… they say that good pitching beats good hitting.. so this should be an interesting series to watch.. a 4-3 record on this trip would be huge..

As for Howard.. I think they need to drop him to 5th right now.. it’ll break up the Lefty-Lefty which hurts them late in games, give Burrell a chance at a few extra at-bats while he’s still seeing the ball so well… dropping Howard to 7th would KILL his confidence, I think they would probably just sit him before they moved him that far down the order. He’ll start hitting at some point, but until he does, you can’t have him in the 4-hole where you need to get RBIs

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5917 Geoff Mon, 05 May 2008 14:38:00 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5917 IM impressed with the job the giants have done with trying to assemble a decent group of young players. meanwhiel, tim lincecum is going to win the cy young award before his career is over, but the phillies actually did ok against him. This series is going to be interesting. Well see how the phillies do against top pitching. micah owings, the old unit, and they might get brandon webb or dan haren in the last game of the series. i want to see them against webb and see how well they stand up to elite pitching. IM impressed with the job the giants have done with trying to assemble a decent group of young players. meanwhiel, tim lincecum is going to win the cy young award before his career is over, but the phillies actually did ok against him. This series is going to be interesting. Well see how the phillies do against top pitching. micah owings, the old unit, and they might get brandon webb or dan haren in the last game of the series. i want to see them against webb and see how well they stand up to elite pitching.

]]> By: Vernon Dozierhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5916 Vernon Dozier Mon, 05 May 2008 13:50:35 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5916 Remember a year ago when the big worry was that there was nobody in the lineup to hit behind Howard? We were concerned that teams would start pitching around Ryan because there was no lineup protection for him. Now, he is sandwiched between the two hottest hitters in the NL and he's off to a horrific start. Next winter's arbitration hearing should be interesting. I wonder what he'll be asking for and who he'll be comparing himself to? Remember a year ago when the big worry was that there was nobody in the lineup to hit behind Howard? We were concerned that teams would start pitching around Ryan because there was no lineup protection for him. Now, he is sandwiched between the two hottest hitters in the NL and he’s off to a horrific start. Next winter’s arbitration hearing should be interesting. I wonder what he’ll be asking for and who he’ll be comparing himself to?

]]> By: Billhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5915 Bill Mon, 05 May 2008 13:47:42 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5915 I agree with moving him behind Burrell as long as you are ok flip flopping Feliz and Jenkins. You can not have Howard and Jenkins back to back or a left handed reliever would kill them. As far as the money I would love to say he does not get a raise for 2009 but let's face it, he will. I also think when the season is over, he will have 40 plus homeruns, bat over .260 and strikeout more times than Leisure Suit Larry at the Irish Pub. I agree with moving him behind Burrell as long as you are ok flip flopping Feliz and Jenkins. You can not have Howard and Jenkins back to back or a left handed reliever would kill them. As far as the money I would love to say he does not get a raise for 2009 but let’s face it, he will. I also think when the season is over, he will have 40 plus homeruns, bat over .260 and strikeout more times than Leisure Suit Larry at the Irish Pub.

]]> By: Jasonhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5914 Jason Mon, 05 May 2008 13:33:11 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5914 Milke ~I could not agree more. I posted something to the same effect last week and some people did not take to it - but 0-10 and 6 ks this weekend is pathetic. Howard should give Burrell a rub down after every at bat because Pat is really taking the pressure off him. What bothers me is the Phils seemed to have an idea that he was going to run into hitting trouble because of what they offered him $8 million. Although that is still a lot of money for one season but Howard balked and wanted more - it is put up time Ryan! He has been killing the offense (granted he did hit one this weekend) - and I do not want to hear/read that he will his 45 HRs with over 100 - because right now he is on pace to hit about .195, 227 strikeouts, and under 100 RBIs! Please do not take my comments to mean I hate the Phils but what I hate is Howard crying about more money and then playing like a single-A bench warmer.This four game series is a big one for the Phils! Damn the D-Backs for giving a game to the mets yesterday - Thanks for Nothin! Milke ~

I could not agree more. I posted something to the same effect last week and some people did not take to it – but 0-10 and 6 ks this weekend is pathetic. Howard should give Burrell a rub down after every at bat because Pat is really taking the pressure off him. What bothers me is the Phils seemed to have an idea that he was going to run into hitting trouble because of what they offered him $8 million. Although that is still a lot of money for one season but Howard balked and wanted more – it is put up time Ryan! He has been killing the offense (granted he did hit one this weekend) – and I do not want to hear/read that he will his 45 HRs with over 100 – because right now he is on pace to hit about .195, 227 strikeouts, and under 100 RBIs! Please do not take my comments to mean I hate the Phils but what I hate is Howard crying about more money and then playing like a single-A bench warmer.

This four game series is a big one for the Phils! Damn the D-Backs for giving a game to the mets yesterday – Thanks for Nothin!

]]> By: Mikehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5913 Mike Mon, 05 May 2008 13:13:01 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5913 Thanks for the game review. Our Phillies continue to impress the heck out of me. Pat Burrell is having a phenomenal season. I can only imagine what this team is going to do once Jimmie comes back, and Feliz, Jenkins and Howard begin to hit at their potential. Ryan Howard. What a frustrating situation he is in. Personally, I am at the point where I think Ryan has to sit out in sporatic games, but batting at 0.167, in no way should he remain in the clean up spot. I would drop him to seventh for a game or two. Mix it up a bit Charlie! What you are doing now is not working. He is killing our offensive punch. K after K after K. I really do like the guy as a person and a player, but his game has got to begin to turn around. The guy demanded $10,000,000 to play ball this year. The bottom line is that if you demand that kind of money, you have to produce at that level. It's that simple. Things are really beginning to get ugly with Ryan Howard. Sorry Ryan sometimes the truth does hurt.I am so looking forward to this 4 game stint against the D-Backs. There is nothing better than two great teams going at it head to head. The downside is that the games do not start until 9:40pm. Because I get early for work, I will only be able to watch about 3 innings.Go Phillies!!!!! Thanks for the game review. Our Phillies continue to impress the heck out of me. Pat Burrell is having a phenomenal season. I can only imagine what this team is going to do once Jimmie comes back, and Feliz, Jenkins and Howard begin to hit at their potential. Ryan Howard. What a frustrating situation he is in. Personally, I am at the point where I think Ryan has to sit out in sporatic games, but batting at 0.167, in no way should he remain in the clean up spot. I would drop him to seventh for a game or two. Mix it up a bit Charlie! What you are doing now is not working. He is killing our offensive punch. K after K after K. I really do like the guy as a person and a player, but his game has got to begin to turn around. The guy demanded $10,000,000 to play ball this year. The bottom line is that if you demand that kind of money, you have to produce at that level. It’s that simple. Things are really beginning to get ugly with Ryan Howard. Sorry Ryan sometimes the truth does hurt.

I am so looking forward to this 4 game stint against the D-Backs. There is nothing better than two great teams going at it head to head. The downside is that the games do not start until 9:40pm. Because I get early for work, I will only be able to watch about 3 innings.

Go Phillies!!!!!

]]> By: mickhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5912 mick Mon, 05 May 2008 13:04:00 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5912 It is time for Charlie to drop Howard down in the order--if for no other reason than to take some pressure off the guy. He did it a couple of years ago--come on Charlie. Right on--these are the kind of games you need to win--both San Diego and San Fran played hard. This will be a telling road trip--if the starting pitching holds up , the warmer weather ( Ariz) should help the bats It is time for Charlie to drop Howard down in the order–if for no other reason than to take some pressure off the guy. He did it a couple of years ago–come on Charlie. Right on–these are the kind of games you need to win–both San Diego and San Fran played hard. This will be a telling road trip–if the starting pitching holds up , the warmer weather ( Ariz) should help the bats

]]> By: Tim Malcolmhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-5911 Tim Malcolm Mon, 05 May 2008 12:43:28 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/05/another-day-another-late-win-for-phils/#comment-5911 My apologies for the lack of content yesterday. I had no computer access the entire day. That shouldn't happen again. My apologies for the lack of content yesterday. I had no computer access the entire day. That shouldn’t happen again.

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