Comments on: Prospect Report: Lou Marson

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[...] the Sox from the Mets. The Phillies would offer the Red Sox Pat Burrell and top catching prospect Lou Marson. Neither deal is overwhelming, but it may not make a difference the Sox may just want to rid [...]

By: Mike W.

Mike W. — Wed, 28 May 2008 22:07:04 +0000

While I cannot attest for the fact that Ruiz is better in pure defensive abilities (i.e. blocking the plate), I guess I would believe it. However, when it comes to throwing runners out, Coste sure seems superior to me.

By: Mike M.

Mike M. — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:55:33 +0000

In Ruiz’s defense, he is a much better defensive catcher than Coste. He has a great arm and has worked well with the pitching staff. Coste has a much better OPS and what he lacks in defense, he makes up for in pure hitting. If pressed, I would keep Ruiz because I’m not sure if Coste can handle an everyday role as he ages rapidly, for a catcher that is. Jaramillo had a lot of optimism surrounding him early in his minor league career, but as of now, he seems to be much less important to the Phillies. It doesn’t help that Jaramillo is batting an anemic .210.

In terms of acquiring pitching for Ruiz or Coste, the whole league is strapped for pitching so it will take a lot in order to get a mediocre starter. Plus, both of these catchers are freeg agents so if we lose one then we might a B level draft sandwhich pick for one of them. Therefore, I don’t believe either of these catchers will or should be traded.

By: Geoff

Geoff — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:59:52 +0000

well id try to trade ruiz for pithcing, but i dont thik ruiz is good enough to get anything other than a bullpen arm in return. i think a platoon of ruiz and coste might be able to get you through the playoffs. then you might be able to capitalize inflated value. there no other option for this season at catcher than ruiz and coste. id let it ride until the offseason then try and flip ruiz.

maybe you could throw ruiz into a team that desperately needs a catcher, i dunno, but hed have to be part of a package.

By: Lewisauce

Lewisauce — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:56:54 +0000

I’d trade Ruiz without even thinking if it could bring us some immediate pitching help. I just don’t think there’s anyone out there who will give up a pitcher of any sort of major-league capacity for Carlos Ruiz. (Am I right?)

And someone said Ruiz is a free agent after this year. We’d have to maybe try to sell him to a contender that is willing to give up pitching … Josh, good idea. I just don’t see it happening.

We’d have to give up someone of higher value, ala Vic, to get pitching …

By: Josh

Josh — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:44:29 +0000

If Marson really looks that good, would you think about trying to trade Ruiz for some pitching help around the trade deadline? I agree with Mike about next season, but we’re also trying to win now. I’m conflicted about whether that would be the right move for this year, assuming Marson won’t be ready until Spring at the earlier.

By: Mike W.

Mike W. — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:52:14 +0000

The Phillies should not let Coste go to another organization ever, in any capacity. He should be the backup for his remaining playing days, and then a coach. Ruiz stinks. There is nothing Ruiz does better than Coste, except run.

By: Geoff

Geoff — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:50:42 +0000

I like ruiz, hes a hard worker, but id rather promote a young player and develop him…like lou marson. maybe you can get something for ruiz, mid-level prspect or something. i like coste and marson for next season

By: Lewisauce

Lewisauce — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:03:39 +0000

I’d love to see them keep Coste and dump Ruiz after this season. That’s not to say Ruiz is a bad player. It’s just to say that Coste has historically (last year and this year) contributed more than Ruiz. He’s also got that ‘everyman’ quality that we all can identify with, and he might even come cheaper than Ruiz.

Is the front office bright enough to see this? Unlikely, but it would be great.