Rosenthal Hints At Victorino As Trade Bait
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Tue, May 20, 2008 01:35 PM | Comments: 20
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In his latest piece today, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports mentions the Phillies could use Shane Victorino as a trading chip for pitching:
“The Phillies would need to find a long-term solution at the position if they moved Victorino. Still, considering the lack of alternatives, trading Victorino might be the team’s best option. So Taguchi could play center along with Werth, and Geoff Jenkins would remain in right.”
An outfield of Burrell/Werth/Jenkins is not prefered, but what could the Phils do for pitching? Clearly this year is a go-for-it season, and Victorino is really the only nice carrot the Phils can dangle. Could they package Vic with Carlos Carrasco for a Joe Blanton?
Posts: 0 Greg
I’d rather see Vic out there than Werth or Jenkins. Taguchi is not an adequate answer in center.
Posted: 01:44 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 0 MS
I’m not sure how thrilled i’d be to give up Carrasco and Vic for Blanton. i know he’s a solid
Posted: 01:50 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm
As bad as the prospect of a Burrell/Werth/Jenkins outfield is, Vic is really the only league-ready trade bait on the team. Taguchi is not an answer; I wouldn’t mind seeing the team take the flier on Greg Golson for speed/defense/arm.
Posted: 02:05 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 0 Jeffrey
Thumbs down. Plus, Ken Rosenthal is a jackass.
Posted: 02:05 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 0 Jacki
Taguchi not an option- he sucks! No speed, no arm, too old, no nothing!
Myers needs to hit the pen- no doubt, he’s hard too watch! He’s stupid as heck, does he not get that he can’t throw it right down the middle AND he’s lost speed on his fastball?!?! I’d love to get someone else in there. Maybe make Chad Durbin a starter? But a trade may be needed!
Posted: 02:31 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 0 tomas perez
Somebody needs to tell victorino that a combination of intagibles along with being the team’s “pie in the face jackass” doesn’t cut the mustard in the show. I hate it when people don’t realize their act is growing tiresome.
Posted: 03:00 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
They need to make that move. Blanton can eat innings and is a solid option under contract for 2 more years (i think).
shane victorino is a fine player, but he is WAY overrated. taguchi is unacceptable too though. they need to promote golson and take the risk there. victorino has to go for pitching. has to. bring in blanton and bring up happ and thats a steady rotation until the deadline.
Posted: 03:05 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 0 OZ
it is a go-for-it year, and heck knows ownership hasn’t done sh** and won’t do sh***. man i hate those guys. if i saw Giles & Montgomery in quicksand, i’d throw theme each a cinderblock.
that said, yes, bring up Happ – sit Myers & hope he comes around. trade Eaton to a rodeo show, trade Vic and any prospect (remember, the PHILLIES think we have good prospects, no objective source has raved about any of them) for a dependable starter. bring up Golson. Why the f*** not?!
Posted: 04:09 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Exactly. We know what they have now is inadequate. therefore, something has to be done and this proposed victorino for blanton, bring up happ, bring up golson, get rid of eaton (even if you have to DFA him) is MUCH better than what they have right now.
Posted: 04:25 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 0 BillyPenn
These are all well and good ideas, and I see the value in all of them. But let’s be serious….do you think any of it could actually happen? Remember, we can’t spend anymore money and god forbid if ownership tried to make a move that actually makes any sense….to anybody
Posted: 04:30 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 0 Bruce
Tim Malcolm~
Victorino (+ prospect?) for Blanton?? Is Oakland willing to give up Blanton? Why? They have three solid regulars in the OF. Flemington, N.J’s own Jack Cust, Ryan Sweeney and Emil Brown. Maybe you just toss that name out to stir some feedback for your blog?
Posted: 05:31 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm
Blanton is rumored to be one of the major trade deadline chips, if the A’s aren’t in contention by then. Also, I wouldn’t call Cust and Brown “solid regulars.” Cust is more a DH anyway.
Posted: 05:37 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
bruce probaly just wants to see gillick hang tight so he cant make a bad trade… because he might have trouble defending that idiot after another bad trade or signing….victorino goes i could see lofton as a viable option????
Posted: 06:00 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm
chris: Lofton is very me-first from what many say, and he’s a more expensive option than say, Greg Golson, who would give you close to what Lofton could (without the good hitting, of course).
Posted: 06:12 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 0 Greg V.
I’m alright with trading Victorino. He’s a great base runner and a great center fielder but he’s a mediocre batter. Blanton would be a hell of an improvement over Myers and Eaton. I would definately give J.A. Happ another stab at the bigs as well.
Posted: 11:22 PM on May 20, 2008
Posts: 0 Rick
Happ just got demoted, so I don’t think he’s a viable option to bring up any time soon. The thing about Victorino that the Phils would miss the most is his arm in the outfield. He holds up baserunners just by virtue of the ball being hit to him.
That being said, Werth has shown that he has a pretty good arm as of late too!
With Zagurski and Mathieson on the DL for the rest of the season (if Mathieson ever recovers which doesn’t seem likely) and Happ pitching poorly, it seems like Carrasco is the only pitching prospect they have that’s worth anything.
They have to be considering moving Chad Durbin to the rotation…
Posted: 09:09 AM on May 21, 2008
Posts: 0 Greg V.
Wrong pitcher Rick. J.D. Durbin was demoted to (AA) not J.A. Happ. Happ has been doing quite good this season.
As for Chad Durbin I’ve been saying he deserved the No.5 spot since spring training yet Eaton still ended up with it. I thought he looked damn good on Sunday until he got in that jam that tied the game.
Posted: 09:39 AM on May 21, 2008
Posts: 0 Lewisauce
Make the move. I like Vic a lot, but we can limp by with Burrell/Werth/Jenkins (and I am in favor of giving Golson a whack over Taguchi). The glaring need is quality starting pitching. If the dad-gum first baseman would start playing anywhere near his salary, the offense will be fine.
Posted: 01:20 PM on May 21, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Beane will flip blanton if theyre not in the race by then he tried to do that in the offseason too. hed LOVE to flip harden too but i wouldnt take harden with the phillies team doctors’ track record.
Posted: 01:24 PM on May 21, 2008
Posts: 0 Rick
Sorry about that, you’re right Greg V. My mistake.
Posted: 02:46 PM on May 21, 2008