Gameday: Phillies (41-28) At Cardinals (40-29)
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Sat, June 14, 2008 02:46 PM | Comments: 81
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Kyle, meet the 2008 Phillies. Phillies, meet Kyle.
Kyle Lohse will take the mound against his former team for the first time, with the Phils coming off a 20-run explosion against the Cardinals Friday night. With the Phils Lohse was 3-0 with a 4.72 ERA, providing the Phils with a bunch of six-inning, three-run starts — you know, Kendrickian starts. This season, however, he’s baffling teams with six-inning, one- and two-run starts. He has won his last four starts (23 IP, 5 ER).
The Phils, meanwhile, have Adam Eaton on the hill. Eaton has been quite consistent with a string of Kendrickian starts, including his last, a six-inning, three-run effort against the Braves that the Phils later won. Against the Cardinals (seven starts) he has a 6.82 ERA.
Carlos Ruiz had a career game yesterday (4-for-6, 4 RBI) and is in the starting lineup again.
Phillies: Adam Eaton (2-3) 4.62 ERA
Cardinals: Kyle Lohse (7-2) 3.92 ERA
Gametime: 3:55 p.m. EST
Weather: 83, sunny
Television: FOX
Lineup: Rollins, Victorino, Utley, Howard, Burrell, Jenkins, Feliz, Ruiz, Eaton
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Your gameday beer: A recommendation by Phil, it’s Leinenkugel’s Summer Shandy. I’ve heard varying opinions about this one, but a truth remains: It’s the right beer for a hot day in the Midwest summer sun. Well, it’s a hot day in Saint Louis, so crack one of these open. It’s very lemony (too lemony?), so it screams of dog day beer. Have some barbecue or jerk chicken with this.
Go Phillies!
Posts: 0 scot
C’mon Phils!!!!
Posted: 03:49 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 Julie
Excellent beer selection Phil. Summer Shandy is delicious, but Berry Weiss is my favorite. Do yourself a favor and pick up a mix pack. The honey weiss and red are tasty too.
Can’t wait to see the game on TV… Go Phils!
Posted: 03:50 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
I actually just tried the summer shandy yesterday because my friend is obsessed with summer beers and gave me a few to try. I happen to be a huge fan of lemonade, so I instantly fell in love with this beer.
Posted: 03:54 PM on June 14, 2008
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Also Tim, if you need more beer selections let me know. I am a total beer snob.
Posted: 03:54 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 Rob Cowie
A to the E-Z , Adam Eaton.
Honkiest moment of the day.
Posted: 03:56 PM on June 14, 2008
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Looks like Ryan Howard is back!!! KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Posted: 04:03 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
scot might get mad if you say that. saying something about howard is like walking on eggshells with some people here. he says howard is paid to drive in runs which is true. but is it a part time job or is he there to keep a little rally going too? we know hes not paid to play defense bc hes cost us a loss or two this year with the glove.
Posted: 04:08 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Actually, Howard’s defense and base running skills really improved. You know what else improved too? His ability to strike out even more and break his own strike out record. I think 199 wasn’t good enough for him. He wants 200.
Posted: 04:20 PM on June 14, 2008
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Also, no Eaton trashing. Neither of those runs were his fault. 1. Rollins should have caught that ball, 2. HOW THE FUCK DID THAT GUY HIT THAT OUT OF THE PARK!!! High inside fast balls never produce homers. They produce strikes or jammed pop ups, but everyone chases them anyway for some reason. Also, that was his 1st homer of the year. He got really lucky.
Posted: 04:21 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
phil you remember the drops howard has had this year? i remember he did it at a costly time and we eventually lost the game. arguably his fualt. ive seen him drop at least 4 balls this year. not ground balls but balls thrown to him in the air. never seen it happen but to him
Posted: 04:28 PM on June 14, 2008
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chris, homeboy, how old are you? just conversation here about a baseball team. don’t take it to personally that I disagree with ya bout howard. i’ll be amongst the first to say he’ll break the k record this year. and then probably rebreak it next year.
Posted: 04:32 PM on June 14, 2008
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chris is pontius pilate to howard’s jesus of nazareth. :)
Posted: 04:34 PM on June 14, 2008
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When your pitcher hits a lead-off double you hit him in. WTF!!!
Posted: 04:35 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
i didnt personally attack you or take it personal. were having a baseball debate. btw dont call me homeboy, i dont associate with people that talk like that and i dont appriciate people talking to me like that. im 21 years old. dont get so defensive dawg
Posted: 04:36 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
well im sure howard would get him in
Posted: 04:37 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 NC Jason
I want in. #1 I do not care who you are if you are trying to make a case for Howard’s defense you are an idiot no two ways about that. #2 Howard sucks at defense and I have seen paraplegics run faster. He is the worst defensive 1B in the NL – name one everyday starter that is worse. We have had two runners picked off in the past week but because Howard is slower then balls they steal second. And I do not care if the Phillies pay him to hit the ball out of the park his approach is horrific (last week he swung at a 3-0 ball and then struck out). So lets make this clear – Howard blows. If you need more of an opinion just ask managers like Booby Cox who INT. WALKED UTLEY TO GET TO HOWARD.
Posted: 04:50 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
pat the bat! howards back!!!!!!!!!! wait its 1 at bat
Posted: 04:50 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
but jason he had a good game yesterday…doesnt that mean hes changed his approach over nite adn hes back for good. ..its mid june and this guy is hitting .212 terrible. for a 3 hole hitter to get int walked for the cleanup hitter that is bad, espescially to LOAD THE BASES!!
the sad part is i want him back too, everytime he gets a hit he sees dollar signs, i see more prospects from the angels.
everyone thinks im rooting agianst him, i want him back! but im not goin to say he back until hes back,not after 1 game!!!
Posted: 04:55 PM on June 14, 2008
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Sure I would like nothing more for the guy to start mashing – but right now people need to realize that this is not a slump – it is a piss poor year – hitting .209 is not a bad start it is sucking worse then a whore with herpes. And I do not walk around with a cubby because he hits two home runs infront of his family – get the average over .240 and then I will start changing my tune.
Posted: 04:59 PM on June 14, 2008
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Um, Howard runs slower than paraplegics? Dude, Howard is actually really fast considering his size. Secondly I’ve seen him make some really bad dropped ball plays, but I’ve seen him make more awesome diving catches than those this season. He’s not nearly as bad at D this year as last year. The problem with Phillies fans is they only want to point out negatives and never want to point out positives. His D has sucked his whole career so it sucks this year too. Just like Eaton. He was horrible last year so he’s horrible this year eventhough he’s having a good year. Howard is faster than Burrell, Coste, and Feliz, so if he runs slower than a paraplegic then they must run slower than a dead person.
Posted: 05:01 PM on June 14, 2008
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Also, when are people going to jump on Rollins’ shit. He’s been hitting like shit. I’m starting to think Victorino should bat lead off.
Posted: 05:05 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
his 2nd homerun was in a clutch situation right? o wait it was when the game was 14-2. i like the metaphors jason. and it is soooo easy for him to raise his average since hes hitting so bad…1-4 and hes raising his average significantly
Posted: 05:05 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 NC Jason
Phil what would you rather Howard make the runtine play or make the highlight play 1 out of ever 15 chances – come on dude. WOW Howard makes a web gem and then he shits his pants on a pick-off play – but you want me to praise him? Are you serious?
And the parplegic comment is a joke stupid.
Posted: 05:06 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Chris, I pointed that out earlier. He loves to hit his homers and get his RBIs when it doesn’t matter at all.
Posted: 05:07 PM on June 14, 2008
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i would like a switch with rollins and vic bc rollins could drive in runs…rollins is still hitting .273 not.212
Posted: 05:07 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 NC Jason
Thanks Chris.
PS I actually do not know if Howard shits his pants. That is a joke too.
Posted: 05:08 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
no i agreed with u earlier phil…someone else was riding you over that
Posted: 05:08 PM on June 14, 2008
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NC Jason you’re being a dick. You’re right, I’d rather him make routine plays, but his defense is getting better. Also, don’t joke about something that is false information. On any given day there are 2-3 players slower than him, and that’s not including the pitcher becasue they usually don’t try and run fast either. I can totally see you all being negative about his hitting because I agree with you all and am just as frustrated as everyone else with his hitting, but his fielding IS getting better, and his base running skills are good considering how fat he is.
Posted: 05:09 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 NC Jason
Phil = Big Brown
Kidding – but seriously
Posted: 05:10 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
hahaha… man you dont gotta clarify EVERYTHING!
Posted: 05:10 PM on June 14, 2008
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Rollins hits better with runners in scoring position too. Victorino hits a lot of extra base hits and if he hits a single he can steal well.
Posted: 05:10 PM on June 14, 2008
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How am I big brown?
Posted: 05:11 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 NC Jason
When I joke I have to be accurate? Were you picked on as a kid? Did you cry to your mom when the bullies hit you? Did she tell you that it was okay and to be the bigger man. Shut Up! And why are yolu taking me bashing Howard personal? He sucks we all can agree to that.
Posted: 05:11 PM on June 14, 2008
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phil…eaton is not having a good year.hes having a decent year but good to HIS standards…his ERA is 4 .71…average not good
Posted: 05:12 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 NC Jason
Because people he been on you since you started typing
Posted: 05:13 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
where did scot go? he was the one taking the howard bashiing personal…calling me homeboy…who the fuck is he to call someone homeboy
Posted: 05:13 PM on June 14, 2008
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Lets also remember that he is one of the league leaders in quality starts – just saying
Posted: 05:13 PM on June 14, 2008
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I love this site it gives me people to vent and bash while I am in NC listening to the game on XM – PS why the fuck does fox ALWAYS show the Red Sox?
Posted: 05:15 PM on June 14, 2008
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didnt know that… i accept being wrong then…but i think hes been what we need from a 5 but hasnt been ‘great’, but unlike last year he has kept us in games, i guess that what we need a 5 to do
Posted: 05:17 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
i always get the braves games which irritates me more. but today the red sox are on pisses me off that i even got the extra innings package and it still doesnt show it
Posted: 05:18 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 NC Jason
I will give him the whole lack of run support thing – but he needs to pitch better from start to start. Consistancy – that is what we want from most of the players! Myers Eaton and Howard!
Posted: 05:18 PM on June 14, 2008
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Last week on espn Stark released a new stat for pitchers who get terrible run support and the Phillies were amoung the team leaders with Hamles and Eaton in the top three pitchers.
Posted: 05:20 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
hamels has got screwed a lot this year… eaton has to earn it
Posted: 05:22 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Eaton is our #5 starter!!! He could be most peoples #4 starter. He had 3 really bad outings in a row and it killed his ERA. This is his 8th quality start this year, or 9th maybe? As for Howard, his offense has been horrible, and I think his at bats suck, all I did was say his defense has improved which it has and that he is fast for how fat he is, and you’re jumping all over my case. Now I realize why, you’re a fucking red neck from North Carolina. I guess you haven’t been watching the Phillies enough to see Howard’s defense and speed increasing. I’m not supporting Howard, I am simply making a statement and you’re being a total douche bag about it. Why would it matter if I was bullied or picked on as a kid, and what if I was, or someone else on this site was. That would make you even more of a terrible human being for picking on people’s insecurities.
Posted: 05:37 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 NC Jason
HAHA Phil, I bet I have a higher degree then you. And I am from Philly. I have said before that I have XM and listen to just about every game. And I really believe you get the shit kicked out of you every day for the way to take things personal! You called me a terrrible human because I bust ball. Wouldit make me more horrible if I called you a retard for not relaxing and taking a joke or would that be too much for your eyes to read? AND I STUCK UP FOR EATON DUMBASS Apperently you are insecure which would explain the lenght it took you to respond.
Howard blows and you suck.
Posted: 05:57 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
i said eaton has pitched well for a number 5
Posted: 05:59 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 NC Jason
I gave him credit for pithing well
Posted: 06:00 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 NC Jason
Phil when you go to Eagles games do you yell at the fans to stop being so mean?
Posted: 06:01 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 NC Jason
Odds Howard ties the game in the 9th?
Posted: 06:02 PM on June 14, 2008
Posts: 0 NC Jason
Three pitches for 2 outs? Are you kidding me?
Posted: 06:06 PM on June 14, 2008