Gameday: Red Sox (45-29) At Phillies (42-31)
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Wed, June 18, 2008 12:11 PM | Comments: 219
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After Jon Lester baffled the Phils yesterday, the Phils face a rubber game against the Red Sox today at Citizens Bank Park. I’m more confident about this one than last night, that’s for sure, but the offense needs to get in gear. Chase Utley is in the midst of an 0-for-16, and Ryan Howard had his usual game-after-a-big-game 0-fer (If Howard has at least two hits in a game, the next game he is a combined 8-for-51 [.156].)
All in all, the O needs to step up today with Kyle Kendrick on the mound. He’s usually good for the Kendrickian start (6 IP, 3 ER), so the plan is to hit Sox starter Justin Masterson early and often. He’s a good prospect, and they salivate about him up here in New England.
It’s a BP special. The Phils are hitting .251 in day games this season. Manny Ramirez, who got an early benching yesterday because of a sore hamstring, is not in the lineup today.
Phillies: Kyle Kendrick (6-2) 4.54 ERA
Red Sox: Justin Masterson (3-1) 2.90 ERA
Gametime: 1:05 p.m. EST
Weather: 73, partly cloudy
Lineup: Rollins, Victorino, Utley, Howard, Burrell, Jenkins, Dobbs, Ruiz, Kendrick
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Your gameday beer: To round out this Philly-beer series, we go with Yuengling and Yuengling Light. Not a bad light macrobrew, it’s a little watery, but for that special gal in your life — you know, the skinny one with the Hollywood Tan who giggles at almost everthing you say, that’s if you’re a guy with huge shoulder muscles and tight t-shirts from Diesel, and he drinks nothing but Red Bulls, and he’s a huge fan of “Boiler Room” and “Fight Club” but can’t appreciate the self-deprecating hatred for commercialization that Chuck Palahniuk brought to the story, so he just instead owns the posters and they sit right above his bed, probably beause he has wet dreams about Brad Pitt and Vin Diesel and Edward Norton every night — it’s the right beer. Eat some buffalo wings with the beer today.
Go Phillies!
Posts: 0 DFA Ruiz
thankyou geoff….hes pitched 29 innings phil….3 years in the postseaon in 22 years that is not a big enough sample size!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Posted: 02:55 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
fuck utley(just for his slump) and victorino
Posted: 02:56 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Mike T.
It’s official, someone has finally agreed that this is not a good team right now – and that someone happens to be Mr. Tim Malcolm.
Posted: 02:57 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
phil i dont understand why you defend howard when hes in slumps but go nuts on utley who has carried this team during howards slumps…when i go nuts on howard you say look at his rbis…so this is what i gotta say to you….look at utleys rbi’s
Posted: 02:59 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Chris M I never backed Howard up, that was a bunch of other people. I expect it of Howard, not Utley. Howard his also never gone 0 for 19, and his numbers with runners in scoring position are better than Utley’s this year.
Posted: 03:00 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Kyle Lohse wanted 4 years and $40 million… the Phillies were trying to offer him like 2 years.. if they weren’t stubbourn, they could have signed him, but they had already passed on him by the time he wento to St Louis.
WHO WAS GILLICK SUPPOSED TO GET IN THE OFF-SEASON????????
Posted: 03:00 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
im not defending utley but im just lettign you see the other sides of things
Posted: 03:01 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
they offeres him 3 years 21 million and he rejected it and they said screw you youre blackballed to him.
Posted: 03:01 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
They got Lidge…and kept Romero… they have the best bullpen in the NL. EVERYONE thought Myers was solid going into the season, so you can’t fault them there… Moyer is a decent #3, and just last week we were all talking about him making a bid for an All-Star appearance if he can get to 10 wins by then… Kendrick did a good job last year, and Eaton has like 4 quality starts in a row…
They would have to give up a lot to get Derrick Lowe too since EVERY team wants starting pitching…
Posted: 03:02 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
don m get your facts straight you gillick lover….lohse was avialable in spring training for four mil and gillick didnt want him and now look what he would have offered
Posted: 03:02 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
don m are you gillicks boyfriend bc you love to defend this prick
Posted: 03:03 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
i think they took it personally or something because they acted really shady after that. after he didnt resign, THEY MADE ABSOLUTELY NO EFFORT THAT WE KNOW OF TO ACQUIRE ANOTHER SOLID STARTER
Posted: 03:03 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
too much pitching doesnt hurt…we should have lohse right now
Posted: 03:04 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
They shouldn’t have gotten Jenkins. I think Werth could be an everyday player. Shoulda just went for another starter like Loshe, not that Loshe is a number 2. We’d still have 2 #3s a #4 and a #5.
Posted: 03:05 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Chris M… if you could read… you would have seen this, “if they weren’t stubbourn, they could have signed him, but they had already passed on him by the time he wento to St Louis.
*****
They should have grabbed Lohse when there was a chance to get him for a year or two… they were right to not sign him for 4 years…
WHAT OTHER PITCHER SHOULD THEY HAVE SIGNED???? Because Lohse is a career .500 guy..
Posted: 03:05 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Geoff, they went after Bedard. They offered Victorino among a lot other players for Bedard.
Posted: 03:06 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
geoff i think gillick took it personal…and didnt show any interest when he lowered his demands…we knew we need more starters eventually…remember last year and we made Zero effort asfter trying to resign lohse….
Posted: 03:06 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Yeah, I do agree with Don M that Loshe is just having a career year. I don’t think he’s as good as he’s been pitching. Pitchers do have career years.
Posted: 03:07 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Gillick got us to the playoffs for the first time in 15 years you douchebag…
You don’t want to give credit for getting us the best bullpen and the best bench in the entire NL..
You just proved to everyone on here that you don’t know dick about the game of baseball… go back to playing XBOX, where im sure you created yourself and you are the star of the Phillies. And you can tell all your friends how awesome you are
Posted: 03:09 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
actually, all i heard about bedard was media speculation,. i dont ever remember reading anything that said that they offered that for him. i think they sort of just said that after the fact to make themselves look good
Posted: 03:11 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
livan, sliva which we wouldnt have got but we didnt make an effort, saito, leiber, with more guys…benson wasnt the answer to our problems
Posted: 03:13 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Mike T.
I figured Don M to be about 40, 45 years old. Then he used the word “douchebag” — nice.
Posted: 03:13 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
lohse is having a career yhear but it could of been with us
Posted: 03:14 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
dude, take it easy don m.
if you knew anything about baseball youd also know that ed wade build the core of this team. gillick filled in the peripherals. lidge is obviuosly clutch but that wasnt enough. ed wade was TERRIBLE too and he still built this core.
gillick is OK. not great, not terrible.
Posted: 03:15 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Kyle Lohse …. career 71-76, 4.75 ERA…
Adam Eaton… career 66-59, 4.69 ERA…
after giving Eaton that much money for 3 years, you can see why they didn’t want to go crazy with Lohse. Once they had a chance to get him for a year or two.. they should have… but they didn’t …so let’s move on, cause he sure isn’t the difference between winning a World Series or not !
Posted: 03:16 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
gillick got us to the postseaon? ou bullpen was the best last year? how bout our offense dominating and our pitching coming through in big situations…gillick didnt do that…the best bullpen this year…he signed durbin as a starter and is now having a career year he couldnt of predicted that…lidge career year…last year rowand had a career year…gillick hasnt done shit
Posted: 03:16 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
gillick made some bad trades and signings…garcia… and eaton for as much as he gave him…great moves gillick
Posted: 03:17 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Mike T.
We can all solve our problems on agreeing on one simple quote, “We are just not a good team right now.”
Can we all agree?
Posted: 03:18 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
True Chris M. I wish Loshe was having his career year with us. I wish we were like the Sox and horded starting pitching. They have Beckett, Dice-K, Lester, Colon, Masterson, Wakefield, Schilling, and Bucholz. If someone goes down, like Dice-K they have a competent replacement. They have all #1-#3 type starters. It’s sick. Most people in baseball have to struggle to get #3 guys.
Posted: 03:18 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
gillick didnt build this team that got to the postseason…get your tongue out of gillicks ass then you can see
Posted: 03:19 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
this is crazy…this team wont have a chance in the playoffs without a number two startter. period.
this red sox team hasnt even hit their stride yet. theyve got tons of people slumping or injured and they humiliated this team today and yesterday.
Posted: 03:19 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
phil…the red sox didnt trade for santana thats how they have these guys…thats the new baseball…if we didnt trade for garcia who knows
Posted: 03:20 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Nope Mike T. I can’t agree considering we have 3 of the top 25 best players in the game right now and 1 of the top 10 best pitchers and the best closer.
Posted: 03:20 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Actually, I’ll just say 4 of the top 50 best players.
Posted: 03:21 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
I said something similar earlier Geoff. We’re facing BoSox light right now. Papi, Manny, and Youk aren’t even in the lineup. Dice-K is on the DL.
Posted: 03:22 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
good point chris. thats why they cant give up carrasco or guys liek that to get their starter. its gonna be tough, yes. gillick will feel pressured to do a last hurrah and he will. i hope it doesnt wipe out the farm system. just please dont move carrasco or marson or golson or savery. tahts all i ask. and resign whoever the guy is that you trade for.
Posted: 03:22 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Silva last year had a 13-14 record, with an ERA close to 5… this year, his numbers are about the same as Brett Myers…
I don’t love Gillick by any means… until we have new owners, it doesn’t matter who the GM is because they are always going to have their hands tied, and not be able to get the Santanas, and Sabathias… Gillick if anything, has done a good job… people need to realize that we are closer than most teams to the World Series.. we all want to get there…the owners do too.. (I think)
Posted: 03:23 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
don m how bout you give us eatons numbers as a philly…the era might be a little differant….not a good signing for the money we gave him…period
Posted: 03:23 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
exactly phil. this team cant play with guys like that yet. theyre not ready yet. they ahve to break out in the second half of this season and really hit a stride. monday night we wouldve faced beckett instead of colon. we wouldve been shut out.
Posted: 03:24 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
we are close to a world series but we were at the same piont with wade…we got hot at the end of last year and the mets choked….thats not gillick…
Posted: 03:25 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
No Don M the owners just want to line their pockets by tricking a majority of Phillies fans into thinking we’re a great team. In all honesty the diehard fans know we’re not, and the diehard fans are the ones sitting on a message board complaining about how bad they are. The other 2 million Phillies fans think this team will win the WS.
Posted: 03:25 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
we are closer don, ths correct. thats not when you rest on your laurels. tahts when you work extra hard and go the extra mile. this organization has no concept of that yet. they need to find it soon.
Posted: 03:25 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Rick
ahhh….what we would all do to have Gavin Floyd and Justin Germano back right now? We released Germano! WTF???
Posted: 03:26 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
thats is so true phil, i couldnt have put it much better. theyre better than most of the nl but not a real contender. they HAVE tricked people into thinking that we are a contender.
Posted: 03:27 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Mike T.
Rally time!!!
Posted: 03:27 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
geoff ypu got a ton of knowledge from realistic stand point then most of us…we need that number two with keepiung the key guys on the farm and i cant see it hapening…and on gillick that abreu trade didnt do us any favors other then unloading salery…they won on that…and didnt he throw in the towel after that on us…he didnt even know his own team…we came back and almost made the playoffs
Posted: 03:29 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Mike T.
Let’s go Phillies (clap-clap, clap-clap-clap)
Posted: 03:30 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 chris m
geranamo was one of our top prospects we didnt release him we traded him and he was an all star in double a
Posted: 03:30 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Chris M clearly has homosexual tendencies… always talking about guys with boyfriends…and tounges in asses…
But besdies that, Im sure he’s a great guy.. he obviously loves the Phillies and the moves they make…
So Gillick didn’t have anything to do with the following…all which were HUGE last year.. Brett Myers to the bullpen, Kyle Kendrick call-up, the signing of Dobbs, the signing of Werth, the trade for Aaron Rowand, the trade for Jamie Moyer..
you guys are right, he had NO IMPACT on this team. I can’t believe I ever gave him any credit..
Posted: 03:30 PM on June 18, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Let’s face it, the AL teams are far superior to the NL teams. The pitching in the AL HAS to be better because they have to face 9 hitters instead of 8. The AL has more patient hitters, therefore AL pitchers have to be more deceiving. They can work on being better pitchers because they don’t have to spend time learning how to bunt, run the bases, swing a bat, etc. Hopefully we can be a fluke like the Cards who should have gotten owned in the WS in 06.
Posted: 03:30 PM on June 18, 2008