Comments on: Gamenight: Phillies (40-28) At Cardinals (40-28) http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:57:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Harayehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-2/#comment-111343 Haraye Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:30:08 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-111343 That That

]]> By: Chadhurbhujayahttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-2/#comment-109715 Chadhurbhujaya Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:50:25 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-109715 found your site on del.icio.us today and really liked it.. i bookmarked it and will be back to check it out some more later .. found your site on del.icio.us today and really liked it.. i bookmarked it and will be back to check it out some more later ..

]]> By: ryanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-2/#comment-9305 ryan Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:09:50 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9305 all you guys ripping howard need to get a grip. Ryan Howard, no matter what his average is this year, is still probably the best pure homerun hitter in all of baseball today. He'll probably lead the league in HR's and RBI's again this year. yet you guys will all bitch and yell about how his numbers are so hollow. whatever, you want a clutch guy, put david eckstein in the phils cleanup spot, see how much he produces for ya. all you guys ripping howard need to get a grip. Ryan Howard, no matter what his average is this year, is still probably the best pure homerun hitter in all of baseball today. He’ll probably lead the league in HR’s and RBI’s again this year. yet you guys will all bitch and yell about how his numbers are so hollow. whatever, you want a clutch guy, put david eckstein in the phils cleanup spot, see how much he produces for ya.

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-2/#comment-9294 Phil Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:42:33 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9294 No, I'm saying he's not hitting them when the team needs him to. Like the game against the Reds with bases loaded and down by 2. Or going 0 for 12 in the Marlins series when we lost a game by 1 run and another game we coulda won if we gotten the lead and put Lidge in. Instead he'll hit a 3 run blast when we're up by 5 or more runs. No, I’m saying he’s not hitting them when the team needs him to. Like the game against the Reds with bases loaded and down by 2. Or going 0 for 12 in the Marlins series when we lost a game by 1 run and another game we coulda won if we gotten the lead and put Lidge in. Instead he’ll hit a 3 run blast when we’re up by 5 or more runs.

]]> By: Brucehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-2/#comment-9293 Bruce Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:39:01 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9293 "....the reason for hoards power numbe being up is rollins victorino and utley. "....says Chris m. Those tablesetters are exactly what the no 4 hitter needs for RBI production (54 and fourth in the NL for Howard).Also to you Phil... your mythical percentage of 50% for meaningless HRs doesn't jive with Howard's current stats for his clutch ability with RISP. If you did your homework, you will find that Howard is hitting .313 with RISP (25 for 80 with FIVE HRs and 39 RBIs). In addition, RISP with 2 outs, he is hitting .300 (12 for 40 with TWO HRs and 16 RBIs).As I previously posted several times, I'll be satisfied if my no 4 hitter is clutch with RISP and on pace for 100+ RBIs. I rest my case. “….the reason for hoards power numbe being up is rollins victorino and utley. “….says Chris m. Those tablesetters are exactly what the no 4 hitter needs for RBI production (54 and fourth in the NL for Howard).

Also to you Phil… your mythical percentage of 50% for meaningless HRs doesn’t jive with Howard’s current stats for his clutch ability with RISP. If you did your homework, you will find that Howard is hitting .313 with RISP (25 for 80 with FIVE HRs and 39 RBIs). In addition, RISP with 2 outs, he is hitting .300 (12 for 40 with TWO HRs and 16 RBIs).

As I previously posted several times, I’ll be satisfied if my no 4 hitter is clutch with RISP and on pace for 100+ RBIs. I rest my case.

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-2/#comment-9291 Phil Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:08:23 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9291 I never said anything about Howard being 4th in the league in RBIs. I said that 50% of his RBIs aren't helpful to the team. He would be leading the majors in RBIs if he didn't k with runners in scoring position so often. I never said anything about Howard being 4th in the league in RBIs. I said that 50% of his RBIs aren’t helpful to the team. He would be leading the majors in RBIs if he didn’t k with runners in scoring position so often.

]]> By: chris mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-2/#comment-9290 chris m Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:03:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9290 you guys are the same guys that then get on him when he goes 0 for 12. each day your on a differant side. ill get on the other side when he becomes consistantly good. im not going to flip flop everytime he has a good game when we win 20-2! i want to see him hit consistantly and with clutchness. you guys are the same guys that then get on him when he goes 0 for 12. each day your on a differant side. ill get on the other side when he becomes consistantly good. im not going to flip flop everytime he has a good game when we win 20-2! i want to see him hit consistantly and with clutchness.

]]> By: chris mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-2/#comment-9289 chris m Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:58:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9289 well A-rod is the king of the piontless homerun. if rollins was in the cleanup spot hed have more rbis then howard(but maybe not if howard was leading off bc he never gets on base) the reason for hoards power numbe being up is rollins victorino and utley. phil that DOESNT take a PHD to realize well A-rod is the king of the piontless homerun. if rollins was in the cleanup spot hed have more rbis then howard(but maybe not if howard was leading off bc he never gets on base) the reason for hoards power numbe being up is rollins victorino and utley. phil that DOESNT take a PHD to realize

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-1/#comment-9287 Phil Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:18:50 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9287 Hey, Tim. I have a new beer for you to post. Leinenkugel's Summer Shandy. It's a lemonade flavored summer beer. It's very very good. Very refreshing. It's the kind of beer you'd want to do after coming inside after sweating all day outside. I don't know if you've posted it or tried before, but if you haven't I highly suggest it. Hey, Tim. I have a new beer for you to post. Leinenkugel’s Summer Shandy. It’s a lemonade flavored summer beer. It’s very very good. Very refreshing. It’s the kind of beer you’d want to do after coming inside after sweating all day outside. I don’t know if you’ve posted it or tried before, but if you haven’t I highly suggest it.

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-1/#comment-9286 Phil Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:51:35 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9286 haha I guess someone took my advice about Ruiz and the Ashburn Award. haha I guess someone took my advice about Ruiz and the Ashburn Award.

]]> By: Tommy Ahttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-1/#comment-9284 Tommy A Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:37:57 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9284 Phil, I hear ya man...but 50% of almost everybody's homers come when nobody needs them. I can't tell you how many times I see a team up 7-1 in the eighth and their cleanup guy jacks his first bomb of the night when it's merely window dressing. It's the nature of power hitters, the get a lot of meaningless homers over a 162 game schedule. Phil, I hear ya man…but 50% of almost everybody’s homers come when nobody needs them. I can’t tell you how many times I see a team up 7-1 in the eighth and their cleanup guy jacks his first bomb of the night when it’s merely window dressing. It’s the nature of power hitters, the get a lot of meaningless homers over a 162 game schedule.

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-1/#comment-9282 Phil Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:20:22 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9282 Has anyone ever noticed that 50% of Howard's RBIs/homers come when we don't need them, and he doesn't get them when we do. Like for instance we were up 8-3 against the Marlins, not saying a 5 fun lead isn't something the fish couldn't come back from, but he hit a 3 run homer to make it 11-3. I'd rather see him get the 3 run homer when we're down 8-3, you know what I mean? Has anyone ever noticed that 50% of Howard’s RBIs/homers come when we don’t need them, and he doesn’t get them when we do. Like for instance we were up 8-3 against the Marlins, not saying a 5 fun lead isn’t something the fish couldn’t come back from, but he hit a 3 run homer to make it 11-3. I’d rather see him get the 3 run homer when we’re down 8-3, you know what I mean?

]]> By: scothttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-1/#comment-9280 scot Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:15:17 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9280 I agree, Tommy. I am one of the few who was/is a huge Bonds fans because of the adjustments he continually made to his game. Steroids or not, he was a very smart player. I'd love to see Howard think that much but I just don't think he's the same type of player.Chris, I believe last night brought him up to .212!!!! At the end of the day, there are hundreds of players in the MLB who put in Howards position wouldn't have his homerun or rbi totals. You know that as well as I do. Am I happy he's hitting .212? By no means. I don't even think the Phils should give him a long term deal at this rate. But, at the same time I don't throw players under the bus on a first place team just for the sake of doing so. Howards homeruns and rbi's are a large part of why this team is where it is right now. It doesn't take a PHD to realize that. I agree, Tommy. I am one of the few who was/is a huge Bonds fans because of the adjustments he continually made to his game. Steroids or not, he was a very smart player. I’d love to see Howard think that much but I just don’t think he’s the same type of player.

Chris, I believe last night brought him up to .212!!!! At the end of the day, there are hundreds of players in the MLB who put in Howards position wouldn’t have his homerun or rbi totals. You know that as well as I do. Am I happy he’s hitting .212? By no means. I don’t even think the Phils should give him a long term deal at this rate. But, at the same time I don’t throw players under the bus on a first place team just for the sake of doing so. Howards homeruns and rbi’s are a large part of why this team is where it is right now. It doesn’t take a PHD to realize that.

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-1/#comment-9278 Phil Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:06:36 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9278 Who's getting the Asburn Award tonight? I say give it to Ruiz as it might be the only time this season he'll play good enough to get it. hahahaha Who’s getting the Asburn Award tonight? I say give it to Ruiz as it might be the only time this season he’ll play good enough to get it. hahahaha

]]> By: Tommy Ahttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-1/#comment-9277 Tommy A Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:00:20 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9277 Hey scot -- agreed, Howard has 17 dingers and 54 RBI, nothing wrong with those numbers -- but the answer for the .212 batting average isn't completely clear. Obviously, we've all seen him lose several hits to "the shift," but that's when a premier hitter makes adjustments. Dislike and steroids aside, Barry Bonds adjusted to the shift teams put on him and went the other way. Howard tries to hit over it, that's going to work ten percent of the time.Imagine cutting down on the strikeouts by one third? 60 instead of 90 at this point. Even if he's hitting .260, he's most likely leading the league in all the power catergories. Milt Thompson or Charlie needs to pull the kid aside and find a solution to get him to put the ball in play more. Burrell's learned to go the other way. As good as this season's been so far, Howard at .260 (let alone .290-.310) would probably give us 2-4 more wins at this point. Hey scot — agreed, Howard has 17 dingers and 54 RBI, nothing wrong with those numbers — but the answer for the .212 batting average isn’t completely clear. Obviously, we’ve all seen him lose several hits to “the shift,” but that’s when a premier hitter makes adjustments. Dislike and steroids aside, Barry Bonds adjusted to the shift teams put on him and went the other way. Howard tries to hit over it, that’s going to work ten percent of the time.

Imagine cutting down on the strikeouts by one third? 60 instead of 90 at this point. Even if he’s hitting .260, he’s most likely leading the league in all the power catergories. Milt Thompson or Charlie needs to pull the kid aside and find a solution to get him to put the ball in play more. Burrell’s learned to go the other way. As good as this season’s been so far, Howard at .260 (let alone .290-.310) would probably give us 2-4 more wins at this point.

]]> By: chris mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-1/#comment-9276 chris m Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:50:18 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9276 well when you constantly have runners in scoring position you tend to pick up rbi's. scot if you havnt checked lately hes hitting below .210. if that is sufficient sign me up well when you constantly have runners in scoring position you tend to pick up rbi’s. scot if you havnt checked lately hes hitting below .210. if that is sufficient sign me up

]]> By: scothttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-1/#comment-9274 scot Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:06:52 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9274 While I don't think Howard is playing at an MVP level this year, chances are if you are fourth in the NL in RBI's you've had more than "one good game" While I don’t think Howard is playing at an MVP level this year, chances are if you are fourth in the NL in RBI’s you’ve had more than “one good game”

]]> By: Rob Ohttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-1/#comment-9273 Rob O Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:05:36 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9273 Damn fellers you got it right. An old fashiponed butt kickin' And it could not happen to a nicer guy in Tony LaRussa. I jsut wish scottie Rolen was still here to enjoy it. Damn fellers you got it right. An old fashiponed butt kickin’ And it could not happen to a nicer guy in Tony LaRussa. I jsut wish scottie Rolen was still here to enjoy it.

]]> By: chris mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-1/#comment-9272 chris m Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:48:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9272 common howard had 1 good game and so did everyone else. wait to say hes comming through until he has a couple good weeks. this guy has done it several times and continues to slump. i want the guy to do well but its ONE game relax everyone, we have had this conversation 10 times this year common howard had 1 good game and so did everyone else. wait to say hes comming through until he has a couple good weeks. this guy has done it several times and continues to slump. i want the guy to do well but its ONE game relax everyone, we have had this conversation 10 times this year

]]> By: scothttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/comment-page-1/#comment-9271 scot Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:19:43 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/gamenight-phillies-40-28-at-cardinals-40-28/#comment-9271 Damn, that was fantastic. Good to see PhilliesNation fan favorite Carlos Ruiz have a solid game as well! Damn, that was fantastic. Good to see PhilliesNation fan favorite Carlos Ruiz have a solid game as well!

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