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I really don’t think we can trade Marson.. It is becoming more and more clear that Carlos Ruiz can’t hit at this level… and Coste, even by his own account, can’t play everyday. Was there any doubt that Ruiz was going to hit into that double play last night???

Moyer looked good again, the offense looked lost again. Burrell hit a home run but he looks REALLY bad lately… his avg has taken a steep drop the past two months. Rollins hasn’t shown up either since the win against Boston…

What can they even do to shake things up???

I am so tired of manuel playing carlos ruiz…don’t get me wrong i know he has to but i would send a message and send him down to the minors idc who they put nehind there right now…hes absolutly pathetic…

Last night was a game that had me excited. Moyer was on fire and to have the game end the way it did was like being punched in the face. Part of me says it is something that they will get out of. The other part says that this team ran out of gas much earlier than they should have. Hopefully they can snap out of this.

I agree JPK, I thougt Charlie was taking Moyer out when he visited the mound after the bloop single to center. At that point, he’d gotten 6.1 great innings out of Moyer and had Durbin ready. Last season I could see leaving Moyer in when the best middle relief option was Geoff Geary. But this season the pen is a strength. Moyer will get hit eventually, so don’t take any chances especially in a 1-run game. Same thing with Myers on Saturday. But I digress…

I also wonder if Gillick should be looking for bats at the deadline in addition to arms. The starting pitching is good enough to get to the playoffs, but after Hamels who’s gonna win a big game against Dan Haren, Ryan Dempster or any #2 in the AL? As for the lineup, it’s no time to panic but a guy like Xavier Nady might be a relatively cheap acquisition who can provide some juice to the #6 or 7 hole. The more I watch Werth and Jenkins, the more I realize RF is a big problem for this team

Jenkins and Werth have it tough.. cause how can you get into a groove when you only play 3 or 4 times a week. The everyday starters are the ones that lead the team, and the ones that need to step it up.. If Rollins, Utley, Howard, Burrell… and Carlos $@#&%ing RUIZ were hitting the ball, we wouldn’t need to talk about the role players.

I think we might see Werth gone at the deadline.. I dont know who else they can move and get anything in return.. I dont think they should trade Victorino. They have been using Madson a lot lately.. is that because they are trying to add to his trade value..or was he hurt??

this keeps up, turn it around, and become selllers. Myers, Howard, Burrell, Dobbs & Werth – Ruiz if a team needs a catcher. limp thru the season. return could be a ton of propspects, look out in 2010!

I’m 90% sure that Manuel, Milt Thompson, and Rich Dubee would have more productive than the players they coach were this week…

Its EARLY in the baseball season still… still a month away from the trade deadline means that there is lots of time left.

Even without Gordon’s injury, he was still ineffective, and needs to be replaced… Durbin is fine with me!! But I agree..before we go hard after Fuentes, lets see if anyone in the farm is legit…

If you told me in April this team would have a 6 game losing streak at the end of June and still be 4 up on the Mets and more on the Braves, I woulda thought you were crazy.

Still, the complete and total lack of hitting up and down the lineup, it’s shocking. There is really no excuse for this many guys to be cold at once.

Werth should be playing everyday in right. There’s no if ands or buts about it. Werth is way better than Jenkins.

Ok guys can we stop overreacting now ? The Marlins are playing as well as they possibly can and they still trail us, whilst the Mets and Braves just aren’t as good as they believed they were heading into the season. Every team has a bad losing streak at one time or another, but this one just happens to be magnified because it came over a series of big games that grabbed alot of attention, and because they built hopes up so high after the previously good play leading up to the slump. Ruiz has been horrible and should simply become Coste’s back-up until Coste proves he is not a capable starter. If Coste can do it as a back up then why not as a starter ? Jenkins needs to get shipped out of town; he’s just a crap player. Go out and get a Xavier Nady type player who is average, which is an upgrade on Jenkins. Werth goes back to being a super sub in the OF, and you make the lineup less lefty heavy in the process. And with Gordons latest injury i’d move Myers to the pen to set up Lidge, and then go trade for a second ace, i.e CC or Bedard, posibly even a Maddux.

Amanda, does the name Jamie Moyer ring a bell? He has been really good this year and easily a good #3 guy. Adam Eaton has been pitching like a #4. Kendrick needs to go back to AAA to figure out his change up out pitch. I know he’s a contact ground ball guy, but if you’re going to be a contact ground ball guy you need to have an out pitch if he gets ahead of the count. He just doesn’t have that at all. That’s what separates the Webb’s, Wang’s, and Lowe’s from the Kendrick’s.

the other thing about Moyer is you never know when his body is going to break down. If he were to gt hurt we’d end up with Kendrick as our second best starter,much like the end of last season

They’d never do that Chris L