Comments on: Phils Looking At Fuentes; Is Castro Included? http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Fri, 25 May 2012 02:55:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Brucehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-11026 Bruce Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:40:57 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-11026 I think you're right philspan. Floyd benefited not only being with another team but also from their coaches. In particular the pitching coach who probably corrected some flaws in Floyd's technique. I think you’re right philspan. Floyd benefited not only being with another team but also from their coaches. In particular the pitching coach who probably corrected some flaws in Floyd’s technique.

]]> By: philspanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-11019 philspan Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:04:59 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-11019 If Gavin Floyd was on the Phillies in 2008 he would pitch as well as Brad Lidge would for the Astros in 2008.Both players needed a change of scenery and weren't going to get any better where they were. If Gavin Floyd was on the Phillies in 2008 he would pitch as well as Brad Lidge would for the Astros in 2008.

Both players needed a change of scenery and weren’t going to get any better where they were.

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-11003 Phil Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:40:59 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-11003 Yeah, and look at how awesome Gavin Floyd's been doing this year. Sure wish we had him in our fucking rotation. We wouldn't be going over these semantics right now if Gavin Floyd was in our rotation. Yeah, and look at how awesome Gavin Floyd’s been doing this year. Sure wish we had him in our fucking rotation. We wouldn’t be going over these semantics right now if Gavin Floyd was in our rotation.

]]> By: Tomhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-11002 Tom Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:38:43 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-11002 i know you build through the farm but ed wade did the same thing never made that big trade to give us a chance...he held onto gavin floyd forever and nothing produced...WIN now...who knows is any of these prospects can be major leaguye players i know you build through the farm but ed wade did the same thing never made that big trade to give us a chance…he held onto gavin floyd forever and nothing produced…WIN now…who knows is any of these prospects can be major leaguye players

]]> By: Tomhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-11001 Tom Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:36:40 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-11001 I'm sayin they need to make a big move... they always make the minor ones that will help bujt not get them over the top any of the above 4 pitchers will move every1 down in the rotation and take out the hopeless eaton I’m sayin they need to make a big move… they always make the minor ones that will help bujt not get them over the top any of the above 4 pitchers will move every1 down in the rotation and take out the hopeless eaton

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-11000 Phil Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:30:07 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-11000 Tom, some of them have 3. Tom, some of them have 3.

]]> By: Tomhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10999 Tom Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:27:37 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10999 phils...make the trade for c.c, oswalt, harden, or bedard...they need to make a big move not a minors 3rd 4th or 5th rotation starter...they need another ace to match hamels everyteam that wins the ship has to aces @ the top phils…make the trade for c.c, oswalt, harden, or bedard…

they need to make a big move not a minors 3rd 4th or 5th rotation starter…they need another ace to match hamels everyteam that wins the ship has to aces @ the top

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10998 Phil Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:25:40 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10998 Nah, they'll resign Burrell. Werth is probably a 30 home run a year guy, well maybe just in our ballpark. He has so much potential and such a high ceiling, but it's unknown what he can truly do. Everyone knows what Vic can do. Werth is more toolsy, but it's not yet proven to what his full potential can be. People are going to want the proven player, not the high ceiling guy. Nah, they’ll resign Burrell. Werth is probably a 30 home run a year guy, well maybe just in our ballpark. He has so much potential and such a high ceiling, but it’s unknown what he can truly do. Everyone knows what Vic can do. Werth is more toolsy, but it’s not yet proven to what his full potential can be. People are going to want the proven player, not the high ceiling guy.

]]> By: Don Mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10997 Don M Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:15:13 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10997 When they are both playing on the top of their games... both have good range in the outfield... Victorino has a stronger arm. Both can play all 3 OF spots... Werth has much more power at the plate, and if he played everyday could easily project as 25+ HR guy.Victorino is much faster, but Werth is also a very good baserunner who can steal bases.You would think Vic has more trade value, but the more you look at it.. Werth would fit nicely into most lineups as a #6 hitter with Power...who helps you defensively... Victorino is either a #2 or a #7 in the lineup... since his speed is his best assest. Lets see what teams ask for.I thought Werth was going to be our everyday LF next year When they are both playing on the top of their games… both have good range in the outfield… Victorino has a stronger arm. Both can play all 3 OF spots… Werth has much more power at the plate, and if he played everyday could easily project as 25+ HR guy.

Victorino is much faster, but Werth is also a very good baserunner who can steal bases.

You would think Vic has more trade value, but the more you look at it.. Werth would fit nicely into most lineups as a #6 hitter with Power…who helps you defensively… Victorino is either a #2 or a #7 in the lineup… since his speed is his best assest. Lets see what teams ask for.

I thought Werth was going to be our everyday LF next year

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10996 Phil Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:10:08 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10996 Why would Werth be more desirable than Victorino other than the fact Werth is a 5 tools player and has a higher ceiling than Vic? He's not proven and can't hit righties. Vic has shown what he can do. He's gonna be a .280 BA speedster his whole career. Werth has a lot of potential, but I doubt he's going to exceed his expectations. Why would Werth be more desirable than Victorino other than the fact Werth is a 5 tools player and has a higher ceiling than Vic? He’s not proven and can’t hit righties. Vic has shown what he can do. He’s gonna be a .280 BA speedster his whole career. Werth has a lot of potential, but I doubt he’s going to exceed his expectations.

]]> By: Don Mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10994 Don M Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:55:12 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10994 Trade Rumors.... Sabathia and Bedard are definitely on the Phillies list...Carrasco, Bastardo, Marson, Shane Victorino, Jayson Werth... listed as trade bait.Funny how Werth is on other teams radars now... He might be more desirable to teams than Victorino. I wonder if teams are still interested in Golson, I thought he would be included in any deal for a big name pitcher. Trade Rumors…. Sabathia and Bedard are definitely on the Phillies list…

Carrasco, Bastardo, Marson, Shane Victorino, Jayson Werth… listed as trade bait.

Funny how Werth is on other teams radars now… He might be more desirable to teams than Victorino. I wonder if teams are still interested in Golson, I thought he would be included in any deal for a big name pitcher.

]]> By: Andy Reidhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10982 Andy Reid Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:54:26 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10982 I know u are probably confused about the phillies pursuing a costly bullpen arm when it is already an area of strength for them. If they truly want to be .500 team they need to take further steps. Continuing to ignore the starting pitching problem by trotting out multiple bums a week is deliciously reminiscent of how I handle wide receivers and defensive ends. I would also suggest that they alienate key players over chump change while their ownership wears gold plated diapers. PS. I heard Lito Sheppard can throw a hell of a curveball. I will trade him to the Phillies for a 4th round pick in 2013. In case you are wondering, I will take a DT with the pick. PPS. I think I could beat Ryan Howard in a foot race on astroturf. I know u are probably confused about the phillies pursuing a costly bullpen arm when it is already an area of strength for them. If they truly want to be .500 team they need to take further steps. Continuing to ignore the starting pitching problem by trotting out multiple bums a week is deliciously reminiscent of how I handle wide receivers and defensive ends. I would also suggest that they alienate key players over chump change while their ownership wears gold plated diapers. PS. I heard Lito Sheppard can throw a hell of a curveball. I will trade him to the Phillies for a 4th round pick in 2013. In case you are wondering, I will take a DT with the pick. PPS. I think I could beat Ryan Howard in a foot race on astroturf.

]]> By: philspanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10978 philspan Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:01:28 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10978 dan, yeah what's wrong with that? I posted under the same name at both sites.Joshua, sorry for the mistake, from your recent posts it appeared to me that you were a mets fan. Even though you were joking, I don't think that the Phillies are playing less aggressive than the Mets, maybe in the recent homestand but not overall. Remember Bruntlett's play in the Cardinals series where he barreled over the catcher and Molina had to be taken away on a stretcher to the hospital? I know that the injuries are/were in different situations and places but its baseball, injuries happen regardless of a team being "aggressive" or not. I guess that aggressive isn't really the right word but if you mean that the Phillies need to play with more heart and play like they really want to win, I totally agree with you. It seems to have been missing the past two weeks. dan, yeah what’s wrong with that? I posted under the same name at both sites.

Joshua, sorry for the mistake, from your recent posts it appeared to me that you were a mets fan. Even though you were joking, I don’t think that the Phillies are playing less aggressive than the Mets, maybe in the recent homestand but not overall. Remember Bruntlett’s play in the Cardinals series where he barreled over the catcher and Molina had to be taken away on a stretcher to the hospital? I know that the injuries are/were in different situations and places but its baseball, injuries happen regardless of a team being “aggressive” or not. I guess that aggressive isn’t really the right word but if you mean that the Phillies need to play with more heart and play like they really want to win, I totally agree with you. It seems to have been missing the past two weeks.

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10977 Phil Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:28:28 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10977 I saw the slide...Beltran didn't pull a Crisp. I saw the slide…Beltran didn’t pull a Crisp.

]]> By: Joshuahttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10974 Joshua Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:05:41 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10974 my mets? im a philly fan. im saying if the team is playing with aggression, we have to watch out cause our pitchers could be next...it was a joke my mets? im a philly fan. im saying if the team is playing with aggression, we have to watch out cause our pitchers could be next…it was a joke

]]> By: danhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10973 dan Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:33:51 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10973 philspan, did you copy and paste the exact same comment on both this site and 700level? pretty sure you did. but, i agree with what you have to say philspan, did you copy and paste the exact same comment on both this site and 700level? pretty sure you did. but, i agree with what you have to say

]]> By: philspanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10971 philspan Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:14:31 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10971 Joshua, you talk about karma and then are glad that your Mets injure the opposing pitcher? Joshua, you talk about karma and then are glad that your Mets injure the opposing pitcher?

]]> By: Joshuahttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10968 Joshua Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:19:53 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10968 well phillie fans..get used to this, the mets are playing alot more agressive..ask king felix. beltran on third and a wild pitch beltran runs for third and takes out the king. hes out of hte game with an injury. he can barely walk. well phillie fans..get used to this, the mets are playing alot more agressive..ask king felix. beltran on third and a wild pitch beltran runs for third and takes out the king. hes out of hte game with an injury. he can barely walk.

]]> By: Joshuahttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10967 Joshua Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:08:26 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10967 Tim, I guess you're not worried about bad karma...the mets could easily still come back early in the game, or karma can effect you buy having the phillies lose 3 more straight games...either way, I try not to say anything bad about opposing teams. Tim, I guess you’re not worried about bad karma…the mets could easily still come back early in the game, or karma can effect you buy having the phillies lose 3 more straight games…either way, I try not to say anything bad about opposing teams.

]]> By: Tim Malcolmhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-10966 Tim Malcolm Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:55:52 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/phils-looking-at-fuentes-with-castro-as-a-chip/#comment-10966 BTW, hilarious news. King Felix just rocked a grand slam on his first pitch of the year off, who else, Johan.And it was legit. Opposite field ocean liner into the right field power alley. BTW, hilarious news. King Felix just rocked a grand slam on his first pitch of the year off, who else, Johan.

And it was legit. Opposite field ocean liner into the right field power alley.

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