Comments on: The Phillies Nation Midterm Grades http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:33:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Ryhohohohttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-14371 Ryhohoho Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:56:12 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-14371 C+??? Gimme a break -- RyHo is a freakin' machine. Sure, he may be striking out like crazy but let me also remind you he's hit more homers than should be legal. Just check him out take on Home Run Derby defending champ Vlad Guerrero in a head-to-head:http://youtube.com/watch?v=hs8xiN2Y9d8Now, if he'd only take that raw power and put into some RBI action... C+??? Gimme a break — RyHo is a freakin’ machine. Sure, he may be striking out like crazy but let me also remind you he’s hit more homers than should be legal. Just check him out take on Home Run Derby defending champ Vlad Guerrero in a head-to-head:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hs8xiN2Y9d8

Now, if he’d only take that raw power and put into some RBI action…

]]> By: metsoshttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11983 metsos Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:49:51 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11983 Who are you going to trade for one of these big shutdown pitchers? do you think they want to pitch in your tiny park. If you think the Mets are thin, you should look at your starting pitching. The phillies have played there best baseball with one minor injury, and the mets pretty much the worst baseball we ever seen ever, with tons of injuries, and they are only 3 games out. Hitting homeruns in a tiny park wins games. pitching wins championships. 4 of your starters would be in the minors if they where with the mets, and I would still take pelf over hamels. I don't know how your thinking about the winning the NL east you should be more worried about who is in first next week after the mets swing through your park. The mets are waking up , slowly. But we all seen last year that its not how you start its how you finish. Who are you going to trade for one of these big shutdown pitchers? do you think they want to pitch in your tiny park. If you think the Mets are thin, you should look at your starting pitching. The phillies have played there best baseball with one minor injury, and the mets pretty much the worst baseball we ever seen ever, with tons of injuries, and they are only 3 games out. Hitting homeruns in a tiny park wins games. pitching wins championships. 4 of your starters would be in the minors if they where with the mets, and I would still take pelf over hamels. I don’t know how your thinking about the winning the NL east you should be more worried about who is in first next week after the mets swing through your park. The mets are waking up , slowly. But we all seen last year that its not how you start its how you finish.

]]> By: Tim Malcolmhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11969 Tim Malcolm Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:54:31 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11969 I'd give Charlie a solid B-. He's made some great moves (especially during the run to first place), but he's also been stubborn with changing his team composition in the face of big problems. I can't blame him for the recent slide, as the entire team has been really bad offensively. Still, one can say the team is forcing it more than ever, and that can be attributed to him. He's better than average, but not a lot better. B- with a C+ possibility.As for a call-up who can help, I wrote Brandon Watson before and I'll mention him again. He can be a little sparkplug for an offense that really needs a kick in the pants. Pitching wise there's not a lot that'll instantly do damage, but I do think if anyone can make a big contribution, it would either be Carlos Carrasco as a starter, or Josh Outman in a bullpen role. I’d give Charlie a solid B-. He’s made some great moves (especially during the run to first place), but he’s also been stubborn with changing his team composition in the face of big problems. I can’t blame him for the recent slide, as the entire team has been really bad offensively. Still, one can say the team is forcing it more than ever, and that can be attributed to him. He’s better than average, but not a lot better. B- with a C+ possibility.

As for a call-up who can help, I wrote Brandon Watson before and I’ll mention him again. He can be a little sparkplug for an offense that really needs a kick in the pants. Pitching wise there’s not a lot that’ll instantly do damage, but I do think if anyone can make a big contribution, it would either be Carlos Carrasco as a starter, or Josh Outman in a bullpen role.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11967 Geoff Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:38:57 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11967 against good competition in interleague play dobbs hasnt done anything of note. hes notmally good though, yes. he can stay. bruntlett is ONLY there because he can play a lot of positions, but cant young players do the same or better?i feel like wade was begging us to take him in the deal. against good competition in interleague play dobbs hasnt done anything of note. hes notmally good though, yes. he can stay. bruntlett is ONLY there because he can play a lot of positions, but cant young players do the same or better?

i feel like wade was begging us to take him in the deal.

]]> By: Grotyhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11965 Groty Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:31:47 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11965 So what is your grade for Charlie?Can you speculate on a call-up to help out this season, rather than focusing on a trade to phil the holes? So what is your grade for Charlie?

Can you speculate on a call-up to help out this season, rather than focusing on a trade to phil the holes?

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11954 Phil Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:53:32 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11954 If Rollins is a 1st pitch hitter than he shouldn't be the lead off man. He should bat in the 2 hole in that case. If Rollins is a 1st pitch hitter than he shouldn’t be the lead off man. He should bat in the 2 hole in that case.

]]> By: Justinhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11941 Justin Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:44:26 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11941 Rollins in his career is a .343 hitter when he swings on the first pitch.He's terrible in 0-1, 0-2, 2-2, 3-2 counts.This year he is .310 on the first pitch. Maybe he needs to swing first pitch more often. Rollins in his career is a .343 hitter when he swings on the first pitch.

He’s terrible in 0-1, 0-2, 2-2, 3-2 counts.

This year he is .310 on the first pitch. Maybe he needs to swing first pitch more often.

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11921 Phil Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:58:27 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11921 Geoff, I wouldn't say Bruntlett totally sucks. He can adequately play any position in the field other than catcher and pitcher. His bat isn't HORRIBLE. To say Dobbs is what he is is a little ridiculous too. Dobbs is probably the best bench player in baseball. Geoff, I wouldn’t say Bruntlett totally sucks. He can adequately play any position in the field other than catcher and pitcher. His bat isn’t HORRIBLE. To say Dobbs is what he is is a little ridiculous too. Dobbs is probably the best bench player in baseball.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11915 Geoff Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:58:54 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11915 thats a good call tim. someone who isnt a stiff. someone who can get on base and run. watson is a nice option. how much longer do they leave taguchi and jenkins out there? theyre killing us when theyre given chances. thats a good call tim. someone who isnt a stiff. someone who can get on base and run. watson is a nice option. how much longer do they leave taguchi and jenkins out there? theyre killing us when theyre given chances.

]]> By: Tim Malcolmhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11914 Tim Malcolm Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:51:59 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11914 Also, one name to think about — and Geoff this runs with your issue with team depth — is Brandon Watson. Currently in AAA, he's a nice hitter whose main strength is speed and defense. He's not Michael Bourn, but he's capable of filling in nicely for Burrell and as a standard 25th man. Also, one name to think about — and Geoff this runs with your issue with team depth — is Brandon Watson. Currently in AAA, he’s a nice hitter whose main strength is speed and defense. He’s not Michael Bourn, but he’s capable of filling in nicely for Burrell and as a standard 25th man.

]]> By: Tim Malcolmhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11913 Tim Malcolm Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:50:14 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11913 Bruce, thanks for the good words. In fact I am an editor at a newspaper, just in features and not sports. I've thought about sports, for sure.The reason to keep Vic, mainly, is that he brings what many of the Phils hitters don't. He hits for contact and moves runners (and moves himself). You can't count on Howard, Burrell, Jenkins to do that. Bruce, thanks for the good words. In fact I am an editor at a newspaper, just in features and not sports. I’ve thought about sports, for sure.

The reason to keep Vic, mainly, is that he brings what many of the Phils hitters don’t. He hits for contact and moves runners (and moves himself). You can’t count on Howard, Burrell, Jenkins to do that.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11912 Geoff Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:47:13 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11912 The problem is they have one of the shallowest teams of any "contender". there is no depth at all in this lineup. none. i agree they cant afford to trade victorino WITHOUT getting an everyday player in return who is a more patient hitter than shane. i still think theyre going to need to replace one of the everyday players in this lineup with soemone who works long at bats and sees pitches and waits for the pitch to hit.theyd get a lot for howard but theyre in the middle of a run and its really not the time to do something like that. thats an offseason issue. geoff jenkins is complete garbage and shouldnt even be on our team, nor should so taguchi. theyre just horrible. thats killing us because you need to rotate in your 4th and 5th outfielders and the 4th guy shoulld be good enough to be an everyday player. they simply dont have that. outside of the core guys in teh lineup who play everyday, they basically suck. carlos ruiz, eric bruntlett, jenkins, taguchi all totally suck.dobbs is fine for what he does. but the other 4 guys give you nothing off the bench. they have no chacne in the playoffs at all with that bench. thats a shit bench.the pitching? weve already been through that. myers out. eaton on probation. even if eaton is pitching well, theyre simply not winning when he is out there either. out. get something for him and get him out of here.bring in your coveted number two, bring up a callup to be the 5th starter. one of thsoe guys will be better than myers and you replace the non-winning quality starts of eaton with the sure thing solid guy you get in here.eaton is 30/31, he isnt going to give you more than he already has without reconditioning in the offseason. The problem is they have one of the shallowest teams of any “contender”. there is no depth at all in this lineup. none. i agree they cant afford to trade victorino WITHOUT getting an everyday player in return who is a more patient hitter than shane. i still think theyre going to need to replace one of the everyday players in this lineup with soemone who works long at bats and sees pitches and waits for the pitch to hit.

theyd get a lot for howard but theyre in the middle of a run and its really not the time to do something like that. thats an offseason issue. geoff jenkins is complete garbage and shouldnt even be on our team, nor should so taguchi. theyre just horrible. thats killing us because you need to rotate in your 4th and 5th outfielders and the 4th guy shoulld be good enough to be an everyday player. they simply dont have that. outside of the core guys in teh lineup who play everyday, they basically suck. carlos ruiz, eric bruntlett, jenkins, taguchi all totally suck.

dobbs is fine for what he does. but the other 4 guys give you nothing off the bench. they have no chacne in the playoffs at all with that bench. thats a shit bench.

the pitching? weve already been through that. myers out. eaton on probation. even if eaton is pitching well, theyre simply not winning when he is out there either. out. get something for him and get him out of here.

bring in your coveted number two, bring up a callup to be the 5th starter. one of thsoe guys will be better than myers and you replace the non-winning quality starts of eaton with the sure thing solid guy you get in here.

eaton is 30/31, he isnt going to give you more than he already has without reconditioning in the offseason.

]]> By: Brucehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11911 Bruce Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:56:21 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11911 Another excellent and thorough analysis, Tim. Obviously, you put in much heart, time and effort into your blog. Have you ever thought about pursuing a career as a baseball editor for a major newspaper? Although writing for a newspaper column would have space restriction and editing becomes a challenge.As the trade deadline approaches, I am nervous about the potential pricetag in a possible trade for a frontline starter. Especially, if it includes Victorino, a critical and underrated (by a few here) player in the line-up, both on offense and defense. The Phillies might seriously regret trading Victorino. What would happen if you took Victorino out of the everyday line-up? He's such a vital offensive cog in the no 2 hole; more so since Rollins has been a disappointment so far this season.Some here have suggested calling up Greg Golson from AA. That would not be the right move at the moment. He is on the DL with an wrist injury and hasn't played in over two weeks.His strikeout-to-walk ratio remains poor (77-14). It was reported in the past, he has struggled with off speed stuff and that's in double A. No... bringing him up simply to be a fourth outfielder isn't the way to go.A smarter move is to keep Victorino because of the many things he can do, beginning with the offense. Victorino at this moment has a .347 OBP which is far better than Jenkins' .289, who would receive the biggest playing time spike should Victorino be traded. Victorino, with 66 runs produced (50 runs scored+18 RBIs-2 HRs) in 262 ABs equates to one run produced every 3.9 at-bats. Again far better than Jenkins' one every 5.6 at-bats. Defensively in the OF, Werth, Jenkins and Burrell is much weaker than one that would include Werth and Victorino simultaneously.Please, Gillick, don't even think of trading Victorino. Another excellent and thorough analysis, Tim. Obviously, you put in much heart, time and effort into your blog. Have you ever thought about pursuing a career as a baseball editor for a major newspaper? Although writing for a newspaper column would have space restriction and editing becomes a challenge.

As the trade deadline approaches, I am nervous about the potential pricetag in a possible trade for a frontline starter. Especially, if it includes Victorino, a critical and underrated (by a few here) player in the line-up, both on offense and defense. The Phillies might seriously regret trading Victorino. What would happen if you took Victorino out of the everyday line-up? He’s such a vital offensive cog in the no 2 hole; more so since Rollins has been a disappointment so far this season.

Some here have suggested calling up Greg Golson from AA. That would not be the right move at the moment. He is on the DL with an wrist injury and hasn’t played in over two weeks.His strikeout-to-walk ratio remains poor (77-14). It was reported in the past, he has struggled with off speed stuff and that’s in double A. No… bringing him up simply to be a fourth outfielder isn’t the way to go.

A smarter move is to keep Victorino because of the many things he can do, beginning with the offense. Victorino at this moment has a .347 OBP which is far better than Jenkins’ .289, who would receive the biggest playing time spike should Victorino be traded. Victorino, with 66 runs produced (50 runs scored+18 RBIs-2 HRs) in 262 ABs equates to one run produced every 3.9 at-bats. Again far better than Jenkins’ one every 5.6 at-bats. Defensively in the OF, Werth, Jenkins and Burrell is much weaker than one that would include Werth and Victorino simultaneously.

Please, Gillick, don’t even think of trading Victorino.

]]> By: Tim Malcolmhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11910 Tim Malcolm Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:55:24 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11910 So we got one guy saying Eaton is better than C- and one saying he's a D. And one guy saying Kendrick is better than his C+ and one saying he's worse. Good.And I did factor in defense. So we got one guy saying Eaton is better than C- and one saying he’s a D. And one guy saying Kendrick is better than his C+ and one saying he’s worse. Good.

And I did factor in defense.

]]> By: Butchyhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11909 Butchy Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:53:22 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11909 Eaton should be a "D" and Feliz should be a "B-". Oh yeah, and Myers also should get an "F" for his personality. Eaton should be a “D” and Feliz should be a “B-”. Oh yeah, and Myers also should get an “F” for his personality.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11907 Geoff Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:03:28 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11907 yeah i think kendrick is a b. hes 8-3. if moyer is a b then kendricks a b at least.the rest of it i dont have a problem with really yeah i think kendrick is a b. hes 8-3. if moyer is a b then kendricks a b at least.

the rest of it i dont have a problem with really

]]> By: chris mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11906 chris m Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:01:43 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11906 i like the work tim but im surprised about kendricks grade. C+ is above average... maybe your doing it bc hes commming off a good start but hes been about avervage not above it...and eaton has been a little better then him so i think he should have a better grade i like the work tim but im surprised about kendricks grade. C+ is above average… maybe your doing it bc hes commming off a good start but hes been about avervage not above it…and eaton has been a little better then him so i think he should have a better grade

]]> By: NC Jasonhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11902 NC Jason Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:47:34 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11902 Tim nice job. And mostly I am in agreement. However, I think we need to factor in some of the players' defense. Howard is the worst 1b as far as defense is concerned and he has cost other players' errors and runs. But all of that aside, they are still in first place and I agree that the chasing teams have bigger and more concerning holes then the Phils.Go Phils! Tim nice job. And mostly I am in agreement. However, I think we need to factor in some of the players’ defense. Howard is the worst 1b as far as defense is concerned and he has cost other players’ errors and runs. But all of that aside, they are still in first place and I agree that the chasing teams have bigger and more concerning holes then the Phils.

Go Phils!

]]> By: Jeremyhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11901 Jeremy Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:44:26 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11901 I like what Cholly did last night, batting Burrell between Utlet and Howard. Not only does it force Burrell to face a lefty reliever late in games, but with Howard an all or nothing hitter at this point, Burrell's walks will give Howard more opportunities for 3-run homers I like what Cholly did last night, batting Burrell between Utlet and Howard. Not only does it force Burrell to face a lefty reliever late in games, but with Howard an all or nothing hitter at this point, Burrell’s walks will give Howard more opportunities for 3-run homers

]]> By: scothttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/comment-page-1/#comment-11894 scot Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:13:27 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/06/the-phillies-nation-midterm-grades/#comment-11894 Love the analysis, Tim.I might rate Eaton a little higher. I don't know. I guess I rate him against the expectations coming into this season, as opposed to the expectations of his contract.I mean if in April we were told that Eaton would go through a strech of 7 starts, and 6 would be quality starts, I think we'd all be very pleased. Love the analysis, Tim.

I might rate Eaton a little higher. I don’t know. I guess I rate him against the expectations coming into this season, as opposed to the expectations of his contract.

I mean if in April we were told that Eaton would go through a strech of 7 starts, and 6 would be quality starts, I think we’d all be very pleased.

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