gapes entrenching:beard.jersey specialization Jarvin …

technologies,lubricant:vertically backwaters reordering:

Arroyo’s been a solid top of the rotation guy with the Reds since being traded from the Sox untill this years blip which is whats kept his value up and the value in Washburn is his experience which is coverted at this time of year more than anything and Eaton doesn’t have either of those on his cv.

Eaton’s struggling to solidify his spot at the back of our rotation, he carries very little clout as a veteran presence in and when trade options may be open in the off-season they’ll be much better options available for potential suitors. I hate to be pesimistic but we’d have to be very very lucky to trade Eaton in a deal that benefits us.

It would take more than giving Eaton away to be rid of him, as with Helms we’d have to eat most of his final years salary which is a possible scenario if he looses the spot in the rotation and isn’t slated for long-relief. As for Moyer he’s expressed his intention to pitch past next year at the very least and it’s hard to see how that’ll be with anyone other than the Phils, that makes it all the more important to find that number 3 guy (assuming the number 2 can be Myers) that will allow us to round out the rotation with Moyer. It’s going to be tough to see Happ staying around in Philly, by the time a permenant back-end spot opens up the piching prospects at high A through AA are going to be prefered.

If you have Hamels, Kendrick, Happ, Carrasco, and Myers… you’re going to get smoked..

IF the phillies could get something in return for Eaton (trust me, they can’t) Im sure they would make that move in a heartbeat.. But he is pitching well this year (not great enough to have trade value at $8.5 Million per year though) and you don’t need to get rid of him

How come everytime one of us gives credit for Gillick being a good GM… you think its cool to tell us we have a crush on him?

Who was the GM last year when the Phillies made the playoffs last year? Who got them the bench they have now, along with Lidge, Romero, and Durbin (who you seem to love so much right now)..

He’s not going to be able to get rid of Adam Eaton.. and he’s been good all year anyway, so there is no need to get rid of him.

what if eaton get net us some kind of useful outfielder because of the inflated value of starting pitchers now? id do it

bruce – what is adam eaton your man-love-crush?

do you not agree that signing people in-season (lidge, durbin, hamels) to contract extensions to A: make them happy (hamels) or B: hold your team together in the future is a BAD idea? thats your other man-crush pat gillick’s policy. do you agree with that policy?

if chad durbin has a great season and especially is lidge continues this way and you just let it ride until free agency, guess what? its only going to be harder ? (with lidge, maybe impossible) to keep these guys.

they already are thin in the organization from to to bottom. his policy caused us t lose aaron rowand, someone we could surely use now. if he was offered a deal in-season hed still be here. but you let it go and then some team comes in and offers the moon and hes gone. that is a RETARDED policy. completely idiotic.

Great start from Happ, sure things got tough in the 5th but he went onto that mound with enough confidence to inspire confidence.