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> <channel><title>Comments on: Commentary: Season Heating Up, Phils Cooling Off</title> <atom:link href="http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/</link> <description>Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 03:56:16 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: Gavin</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18766</link> <dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18766</guid> <description>Well said TJ. In fact I&#039;m ready to go 3 for 4 tonight with a bomb myself.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said TJ. In fact I&#8217;m ready to go 3 for 4 tonight with a bomb myself.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Phil</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18761</link> <dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:12:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18761</guid> <description>I agree with everything you said 110% TJ.  Probably the most thought out and intelligent post made on here all season.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything you said 110% TJ.  Probably the most thought out and intelligent post made on here all season.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TJ</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18759</link> <dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:08:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18759</guid> <description>Get over Aaron Rowand, and enough with the what ifs. Marson isn&#039;t coming up this year, Ok? Ruiz can call a game with the best of them, and as previously stated many, many, many times beore, who would notice that Ruiz sucked if the rest of our offense produced. I&#039;m not gonna point a finger at anyone in the organization as the scapegoat. This is a team game, we aren&#039;t playing like a team. I think the players got caught up in their egos when they had the division lead. They felt that they had done enough and now it was time to look good. The Mets started closing in and Howard caught fire, but we can&#039;t win games with individual performances, see Ryan Howard&#039;s 2 rbi game against the Marlins. We lose 3-2 in extras after Cole gives up 2 in 8 innings. This team needs a slap in the face, something needs to happen to get these guys back to reality and make them realize that it&#039;s time to play baseball. Give the pitchers some run support! We have lost so many close games this year  even with our bullpen cleaning up messy starts. What we need is another bat to kick our offense in the ass and tell them to giddy up or our offense to wake the fuck up.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get over Aaron Rowand, and enough with the what ifs. Marson isn&#8217;t coming up this year, Ok? Ruiz can call a game with the best of them, and as previously stated many, many, many times beore, who would notice that Ruiz sucked if the rest of our offense produced. I&#8217;m not gonna point a finger at anyone in the organization as the scapegoat. This is a team game, we aren&#8217;t playing like a team. I think the players got caught up in their egos when they had the division lead. They felt that they had done enough and now it was time to look good. The Mets started closing in and Howard caught fire, but we can&#8217;t win games with individual performances, see Ryan Howard&#8217;s 2 rbi game against the Marlins. We lose 3-2 in extras after Cole gives up 2 in 8 innings. This team needs a slap in the face, something needs to happen to get these guys back to reality and make them realize that it&#8217;s time to play baseball. Give the pitchers some run support! We have lost so many close games this year  even with our bullpen cleaning up messy starts. What we need is another bat to kick our offense in the ass and tell them to giddy up or our offense to wake the fuck up.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brooks</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18757</link> <dc:creator>Brooks</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:08:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18757</guid> <description>Did I say I miss Aaron Rowand?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I say I miss Aaron Rowand?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brooks</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18756</link> <dc:creator>Brooks</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:05:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18756</guid> <description>Ruiz, Coste, Jenkins, Feliz (who has done better than all of them), even Dobbs (who has shown that he is NOT an everyday player) - the bottom of this lineup needs to be revamped.  C&#039;mon Cholly, c&#039;mon Pat - bring that kid up from the minors and let him catch.  What freaking harm can it do us at this point?  Hell, my wife can GIDP as well as Ruiz!
True that if just 2 out of our big 3 were playing close to their potential we would have probably 3, maybe 4 more wins.  But like what was said earlier, every fan knows what this lineup has to offer, what to expect.  From the 6th spot on in the lineup, N A D A.
Let&#039;s ponder the season that Hamels is having for a sec.  This man has 7 games in which he has given up 3 runs (only 1 time) or less and has all of 3 losses to show for it.  He has 4 ND&#039;s and a 2.08 ERA for those 7 games.  If there was some semblance of run support behind the wonderkind - he would be hoisted as the premier pitcher in the NL with probably 15 maybe 16 wins and 3 losses.
Bring up the kid from the minors, please!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruiz, Coste, Jenkins, Feliz (who has done better than all of them), even Dobbs (who has shown that he is NOT an everyday player) &#8211; the bottom of this lineup needs to be revamped.  C&#8217;mon Cholly, c&#8217;mon Pat &#8211; bring that kid up from the minors and let him catch.  What freaking harm can it do us at this point?  Hell, my wife can GIDP as well as Ruiz!<br
/> True that if just 2 out of our big 3 were playing close to their potential we would have probably 3, maybe 4 more wins.  But like what was said earlier, every fan knows what this lineup has to offer, what to expect.  From the 6th spot on in the lineup, N A D A.<br
/> Let&#8217;s ponder the season that Hamels is having for a sec.  This man has 7 games in which he has given up 3 runs (only 1 time) or less and has all of 3 losses to show for it.  He has 4 ND&#8217;s and a 2.08 ERA for those 7 games.  If there was some semblance of run support behind the wonderkind &#8211; he would be hoisted as the premier pitcher in the NL with probably 15 maybe 16 wins and 3 losses.<br
/> Bring up the kid from the minors, please!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gavin</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18755</link> <dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:01:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18755</guid> <description>The Astros just traded for Randy Wolf. What the hell is Wade doing down there? Trying to acquire as many ex-phillies as possible? He&#039;s clueless. I hear he&#039;s looking to bring Trais Lee and Omar Daal out of retirement.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Astros just traded for Randy Wolf. What the hell is Wade doing down there? Trying to acquire as many ex-phillies as possible? He&#8217;s clueless. I hear he&#8217;s looking to bring Trais Lee and Omar Daal out of retirement.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: VonHayes</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18753</link> <dc:creator>VonHayes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:45:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18753</guid> <description>Don M. - Thanks.  At last someone who can see things clearly.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don M. &#8211; Thanks.  At last someone who can see things clearly.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CZ</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18752</link> <dc:creator>CZ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:29:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18752</guid> <description>Anyone else going to be at the game tonight?  I&#039;ll be in the cheap, cheap, cheap seats but I&#039;ll be there nonetheless.  Go Phils!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else going to be at the game tonight?  I&#8217;ll be in the cheap, cheap, cheap seats but I&#8217;ll be there nonetheless.  Go Phils!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18751</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:29:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18751</guid> <description>That is counting the ages listed by the Mets as correct... Carlos Beltran is really 41 years old.. Delgado is 57 years old... and Jose Reyes is 74 years old</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is counting the ages listed by the Mets as correct&#8230; Carlos Beltran is really 41 years old.. Delgado is 57 years old&#8230; and Jose Reyes is 74 years old</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Soapy</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18750</link> <dc:creator>Soapy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:02:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18750</guid> <description>Thanks.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MA Phanatic</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18749</link> <dc:creator>MA Phanatic</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:58:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18749</guid> <description>probably would have helped if I included the link there....
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Carlos%20Carrasco&amp;pos=P&amp;sid=milb&amp;t=p_pbp&amp;pid=471911</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>probably would have helped if I included the link there&#8230;.<br
/> <a
href="http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Carlos%20Carrasco&amp;pos=P&amp;sid=milb&amp;t=p_pbp&amp;pid=471911" rel="nofollow">http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Carlos%20Carrasco&amp;pos=P&amp;sid=milb&amp;t=p_pbp&amp;pid=471911</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MA Phanatic</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18748</link> <dc:creator>MA Phanatic</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:58:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18748</guid> <description>Soapy,
Here&#039;s the page on Carrasco if you&#039;re interested.  There really isn&#039;t a timetable on him, it&#039;s really just in how he develops.  The Phillies are taking it slow with him, but he&#039;s still very young (21) for Double-A and on his current pace should probably debut in late 2009 if needed and if not possibly as late as the beginning of 2010, unless the pitching continues to suck in which case he&#039;d probably get called up early next year.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soapy,<br
/> Here&#8217;s the page on Carrasco if you&#8217;re interested.  There really isn&#8217;t a timetable on him, it&#8217;s really just in how he develops.  The Phillies are taking it slow with him, but he&#8217;s still very young (21) for Double-A and on his current pace should probably debut in late 2009 if needed and if not possibly as late as the beginning of 2010, unless the pitching continues to suck in which case he&#8217;d probably get called up early next year.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: VonHayes</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18747</link> <dc:creator>VonHayes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:53:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18747</guid> <description>Age may not matter, I just think the Mets are quickly discounted for being old by Martinez and Delgado, who I assume will be gone next year.  Overall, they are pretty middle of the road.  Remember, this is just the active 25-man roster.Mets over age 30, 12
Phils over age 30, 14So its now or never for both teams, because the Marlins only 7 guys over 30 (I am just kidding)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Age may not matter, I just think the Mets are quickly discounted for being old by Martinez and Delgado, who I assume will be gone next year.  Overall, they are pretty middle of the road.  Remember, this is just the active 25-man roster.</p><p>Mets over age 30, 12<br
/> Phils over age 30, 14</p><p>So its now or never for both teams, because the Marlins only 7 guys over 30 (I am just kidding)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18746</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:52:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18746</guid> <description>trade? ahahahahahahahahahahahai dont think theres any team at all that wants kris benson</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trade? ahahahahahahahahahahaha</p><p>i dont think theres any team at all that wants kris benson</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: philsphan</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18745</link> <dc:creator>philsphan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:48:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18745</guid> <description>The only way Kris Benson will help the Phillies this year is if we can package him in a trade.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way Kris Benson will help the Phillies this year is if we can package him in a trade.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gavin</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18744</link> <dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:47:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18744</guid> <description>I dont obsess over the Angels or Mets, so I dont really know. Just trying to make the point that we basically have an offense of guys who are playing well below their average year.Dobbs is over .300 and Burrell is the only guy with a good OPS.....1.000 on the dot.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont obsess over the Angels or Mets, so I dont really know. Just trying to make the point that we basically have an offense of guys who are playing well below their average year.</p><p>Dobbs is over .300 and Burrell is the only guy with a good OPS&#8230;..1.000 on the dot.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Soapy</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18743</link> <dc:creator>Soapy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:45:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18743</guid> <description>Does anyone know when Carasco is due up? Start of &#039;09?  And are his numbers good in the minors this year?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know when Carasco is due up? Start of &#8217;09?  And are his numbers good in the minors this year?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kyle</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18742</link> <dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:44:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18742</guid> <description>Quickly name me hitters who bat over .300 on the Angles. Or have an OPS over 1000.Or the Mets for that matter.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quickly name me hitters who bat over .300 on the Angles. Or have an OPS over 1000.</p><p>Or the Mets for that matter.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TJ</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18741</link> <dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:41:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18741</guid> <description>Gavin,Underachievers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gavin,</p><p>Underachievers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CZ</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/comment-page-2/#comment-18740</link> <dc:creator>CZ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:41:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/07/commentary-season-heating-up-phils-cooling-off/#comment-18740</guid> <description>VonHayes - I believe those numbers are slightly skewed by the fact that Jamie Moyer is 45 and So Taguchi is 38 - And considering that he is pitching like he&#039;s 30 its slightly unfair to use that logic.  I&#039;d be willing to guess that the Mets have far more players who are in their 30&#039;s just not anyone quite as old.  I&#039;m not concerned with age as long as players are contributing and staying healthy.  The Mets really haven&#039;t had that consistently from their elder statesmen.But that does shed some light on the fact that the Phils team is not as young as the would lead you to believe...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VonHayes &#8211; I believe those numbers are slightly skewed by the fact that Jamie Moyer is 45 and So Taguchi is 38 &#8211; And considering that he is pitching like he&#8217;s 30 its slightly unfair to use that logic.  I&#8217;d be willing to guess that the Mets have far more players who are in their 30&#8242;s just not anyone quite as old.  I&#8217;m not concerned with age as long as players are contributing and staying healthy.  The Mets really haven&#8217;t had that consistently from their elder statesmen.</p><p>But that does shed some light on the fact that the Phils team is not as young as the would lead you to believe&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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