Comments on: Gameday: Phillies (54-47) At Mets (54-47)

By: mg52

mg52 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:48:40 +0000

The Man IS the Man. The Mets may be the enemy, but their classy aficionados are our friends. These deals could unequivocally bring success to the franchise. And they should be considered soon, lest other teams start thinking that Howard is dead weight. While I am hesitant for Rollins to be sent away, the Man is not off his rocker by implying that his deficiency of hustle is unacceptable.

By: Geoff

Geoff — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:43:47 +0000

the dodgers do dumb stuff all the itme like that, i could see them offering their farm for jimmy rollins.

the pirates dont want to give up jack wilson and rollins would tempt the dodgers greatly.

By: Geoff

Geoff — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:42:28 +0000

Acutally, that sounds somewhat reasonable. thats what im talking about. good deals. howeer, were overvaluing are own players a bit. even if we got back 25% less in return, which is what i think would happen, its still a good haul.

id wait on howard just to see if he has a good year next year. it would be selling a little low perhaps. but to hell with rollins.

By: The Man

The Man — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:38:31 +0000

I’m sorry, i forgot about the Rollins trade advantages!
Loney is a fantastic young first baseman who could be an immediate and productive replacement for Howard. Kemp is an up and coming outfielder with power potential and plenty of speed. He would evenually replace Geoff Jenkins. Andy LaRoche is a corner infield prospect with tremendous upside and who doesn’t need more pitcher prospects

By: The Man

The Man — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:15:00 +0000

“It actually seems the opposite: they take too many easy fastballs, then swing at pitches way out of the zone. It seems that pitchers are always ahead of them. This offense needs some life. It is not just underachieving, but weak. The home run swings will get them nowhere. While I respect people who say that Howardâ€™s production is impressive, he is a one-dimensional player who should be dealt. In the Golden Era, there was always a missing ingredient – who turned out to be Pete Rose. A scrappy, speedy contact hitter, once again, is what they need out of the trade market – not more pitching. I see teams like the Mets and the Marlins go with pitches and stroke them for base hits, not for longballs. That is why they can compete with almost any pitcher. Our guys, instead, want to hit home runs, and their more aggressive, more methodical opponents have not let them escape with such an approach.”

mg52,
even though I am a die hard mets fan, I understand your pain. I stuck through the times when Piazza sucked and our first baseman was Todd Zeile. Rey Ordonez at short too. You are obviously upset with this team’s performance, just as I was last year with the mets
In response to your plea to deal away Ryan Howard, and become faster, I’ve come up with a potential trade:
The Angels are looking for a power bat. Who has more power then Ryan Howard? The Angels have some players who could set team in the direction you obviously want them to take. How about Howard to the Angels for Chone Figgins, Reggie Willits, Nick Adenhart, and Jeff Mathis. Figgins is fast and can play third, short and outfield. Willits is an Endy Chavez type fourth outfielder with speed and upside. Adenhart and Mathis are top prospects.

Notice that Casey Kotchman isn’t included in the deal. This brings me to my next trade. Jimmy Rollins is Mr. MVP but he has a .269 average with 6 homers and 25 steals. He is exactly the kind of player the Dodgers would deal for. Consider this: After the aforementioned Howard deal, the Phils could trade Rollins for James Loney, Matt Kemp, Andy LaRoche, and a Double A pitcher or two. For all those wondering, however, Dodgers phenom Clayton Kershaw is untouchable, but the Dodgers have lots on the farm.

The total haul would be Figgins, Willits, Adenhart, Mathis, Loney, Kemp, LaRoche, and maybe two AA pitching prospects.

By: ryan

ryan — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:08:06 +0000

don’t know if anybody’s said this, but the best thing to come out of today’s game by far was Chris Wheeler actually doing something cool. he came up with a great nickname for Jose Reyes and few other guys “el perro caliente”. because that’s exactly what they are. a bunch of spanish speaking hot dogs.

By: mg52

mg52 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:32:11 +0000

And by the way, Scheity: your comment about the first-base line was classic. And so true.

By: mg52

mg52 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:28:45 +0000

Reyes was wrong and that cannot be denied. The Mets all bicker with umpires and celebrate on the field like little children. Not even like ruffians, because ruffians at least have some dignity underneath the wildness. The point is, the Phils are out of first place. The Mets’ assertive plate approach should be a lesson to the Phils. I see uppercuts in nearly everybody’s swing in the line-up, which accounts for the pop-ups and strike-outs. Slapping breaking pitches the other way, driving juicy fastballs anywhere, bunting runners over, stealing and double-stealing – why can’t the Phils invest in these concepts instead of in unrealistic power. As I tell my friends, they must perform as if it were the Dead Ball Era…as if clubbing upper-deckers or even fence-scratchers were impossible. If the speed and agility are not there, then those attributes must be infused to replace the complacency. The key is ADAPTATION – studying pitchers, sensing urgency, forming and reforming strategy. That way, pitchers like Oliver Perez, Ricky Nolasco and Tim Redding would not dominate them like they always seem to – and everybody in red pinstripes would be more satisfied.

By: BEATWRITERSSUCK

BEATWRITERSSUCK — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:24:09 +0000

Phlorida you racist piece of shit…i hope your mother dies…This is so typically of Philliy fans…your tre colors come out….its a freaking game…there are more important things than life but you have to resort to bashing minorities? I hope your dick falls off.

By: LETS GO METS

LETS GO METS — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:04:01 +0000

Phlorida, hahahahahahahaha. Your team lost to a team full of people you hate. How does that make you feel, you racist piece of crap?

By: GrrrumpyMiner

GrrrumpyMiner — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:29:35 +0000

All around a good crisp pitchers duel (whodv’e thunk it with an erratic Ollie and an older Moyer whose 1st MLB win was written on parchment). Ollie got 12 Ks with 3 vs the mighty Ryan Howard,and Moyer showed guts out there on a day game in which he usually flounders.This series could have been a sweep for the Amazins,but the Phils showed that they do have heart from Tuesday as do the Mets the other 2 games.Its gonna be a great 2 more months to decide who goes into October or goes directly into “Honey-Do” season,and that includes the Marlins in the mix.

By: Utley Sucks

Utley Sucks — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:17:34 +0000

Hey Phlorida – you are a dip shit

By: lezgomets

lezgomets — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:12:51 +0000

phlorida, im going to get a lot of rant for this, but you are the biggest idiot ive seen yet on this forum

By: Phlorida

Phlorida — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:06:11 +0000

hopefully the jalapeno bacteria will wreak havoc on all the border jumping mets players, and fans for that matter. turn down the reggaeton and finish trimming my hedges. sorry fellas, but these trolling mets bums get to me

By: LETS GO METS

LETS GO METS — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:01:24 +0000

You’re right, adamc254, the Yankees are the team to beat in New York. So what? You have to prove you are worthy of being better than the Mets before you can make those comments. Right now, you are the 3rd class team. While we are on the topic of class, have you watched Victorino lately? Have you looked at the fans in the stands with their F you shirts on? Did you have the volume up with Chase cursed out America? Did Rollins show up on time today? Has Ryan Howard ever admired a home run? Does Rollins run his mouth? Did Philly fans boo Michael Iriving when taken off in a stretcher? Was there a jail under the vet? Dude, come on. Wake up. It’s the pot calling the kettle black.

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:56:27 +0000

Reyes is this. Reyes is that. You know what? Jose Reyes showed up on time today, ready to play baseball. Jimmy Rollins didn’t. Result: Mets in first place. Put that in your cheese steak and eat it. Reyes > Rollins. MVP my anus.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:55:22 +0000

I’d like to appologize to all the phillies fans on here for having to put up with loud-mouthed Mets fans on this message board. As a passionate, life-long fan of the NY Mets, I urge all Mets fans who post on this board to stop. It’s just bad form, guys. If I saw phillies fans talking trash on Metsblog.com, I’d be absolutley furious. Why do you care what goes on here anyway? Sure, you might see comments that annoy you, but it’s a phillies blog, so what do you expect? Every fan blog is going to be a bit biased toward its own team!

That being said, you guys (like everyone else these days) are way too hard on Reyes in general and for what he did last night in particular. If I remember correctly, Victorino did some showboating when he crossed the plate in the 9th on tuesday night.

Just wanted to get that in there. Really though, to the Phillies fans – just ignore the Mets fans. To the Mets fans – STOP POSTING HERE.

And that’s the last you’ll ever hear from me…

By: Mutton Chops

Mutton Chops — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:40:37 +0000

Who’s angry and obsessed?

You’re the one on a Phillies forum! Therefore, you must be obsessed with reading about the Phillies.

Why don’t you go to a Mets forum and associate with your own?

By: Scheity

Scheity — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:35:16 +0000

Rollins got benched because he was late to the game (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080724_Rollins_benched_for_being_late.html). He’s finding all the ways to prove to his team and Philly fans that he’s not capable of leadership anymore, after swinging at every first pitch and getting benched for not hustling.

Attaboy, Jimmy. All that’s left now is being caught snorting the first base line.

By: ryan

ryan — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:32:32 +0000

the phillies have a way of making oliver perez look like stever carlton. they just have a terrible approach to him. up there swingin away. everybody knows the way to beat perez is to let him beat himself. you have to narrow down your strike zone and really make him throw strikes because he goes mental and blows up when he walks a few guys. but the phillies go up there swingin away wildly at his sliders in the dirt and neck high fastballs and getting his confidence up. terrible approach to perez.