Gamenight: Cardinals (50-40) At Phillies (48-42)
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Tue, July 08, 2008 06:47 PM | Comments: 290
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After a damning series loss to the Mets, the Phillies begin a three-game series with the Cardinals at the Vault. Last time the Phils played Saint Louis they lost two of three. We only pray that’s not the case this time. The Phils have six games to go before the All-Star break, and they’re falling on their knees getting there.
JC Romero has a nagging injury; Rudy Seanez is having shoulder trouble. These aren’t good things. The Phils can use a break — moreover, tonight the Phils can use a sterling performance from their starter, Cole Hamels. Chances are he will deliver such a thing.
The Phils’ righties are hitting just .239 against right-handed pitchers. So tonight, of course, Jayson Werth, Pedro Feliz and Carlos Ruiz make up the back of the order.
To put it out there, Brett Myers will start Saturday for AA Reading (not making a road trip to Pawtucket), while Pat Burrell is still trailing Corey Hart and David Wright in Final Vote balloting. Come on people, VOTE BURRELL.
Phillies: Cole Hamels (9-5) 3.22 ERA
Cardinals: Joel Piniero (2-4) 4.52 ERA
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EST
Weather: 86, partly cloudy
Lineup: Rollins/Victorino/Utley/Howard/Burrell/Werth/Feliz/Ruiz/Hamels
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Your gamenight beer: Once I recommended Arrogant Bastard Ale. Tonight it’s Double Bastard, because this team needs a kick in the pants. They need a big series win against a good NL team. And they need it bad. Eat … something with this. I don’t know. Make something up.
Go Phillies!
Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm
Cubs got Harden today. Have more about this later. Man, oh, man.
Posted: 06:51 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 chrism
well hardens gone…funny traded for gallager who was a big piece of the deal who graduated 2 yrs b4 me from the same high school…looks like bedard is ours if were gonna do something..or maybe well trade for burnett and not require a physical
Posted: 06:51 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 clicheguevara
#@?*&! Feliz should have started yesterday, Dobbs tonight.
Posted: 06:52 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Mike T.
Wake up Gillick, damn.
Posted: 06:53 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 TJ
(Sighs) Get Bedard.
Posted: 06:54 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 clicheguevara
Bedard is poison. We’re f***ed.
Let’s keep our prospects, get some more playoff experience, and come back full on next season.
Posted: 06:56 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 NJ
Harden would have been a bad move, the A’s haven’t exactly hid the fact is arm is falling off at this point in the year.
Bedard or Burnett… Will take one if the deals in our favour but have a feeling were going to be shaking our heads when this goes down.
Come on Cole!
Posted: 07:08 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Gnomicide
Bedard or bust. I didn’t want Harden anyway. Dude is made of glass, scares me.
Posted: 07:28 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Damn it Gillick. Thats BAD. Hardens injury prone but the Phillies didnt come close to scoring on him. I guess it is Bedard because even though hes a douche who might be hurt, he has the best stuff left on the open market.
If they think they can go get some middle of the road guy theyre not going anywhere this postseason.
Hey, GILLICK! your competition is moving fast and early to get the edge. Now its time for you to go get someone like, now! you canot wait until the deadline and itd better be good. I dont want adam eaton to pitch again for this team.
Posted: 07:36 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 NEPA
Oh, nice, Carlos “5-4-3″ Ruiz is up.
Posted: 07:38 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 NEPA
My bad: Meant 6-4-3
Posted: 07:38 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 JB
New nickname for Ruiz, “DP”
Posted: 07:39 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Kenny
Ruiz is an offensive retard….he has no fucking clue at the plate.
Posted: 07:39 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Assume that Harden will stay healthy this year. YOu have to counter that, you have to counter Sabathia’s move. Top two talented pitchers go to potential/likely playoff rivals in the NL.
And will you fucking guys please drive runs in with risp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I need another everyday hitter now too, sorry. I cant take these retards leaving runners on base. shitty teams leave lots of runners on base….you dont want them to be a shitty team do you?
Posted: 07:39 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
There should be no issue now as to what to do with ruiz. He fucking blows. Get out. DFA. Bring up the kid Marson.
This team is self-destruvting and they need to IMPROVE their roster or else they will fail to make the playoffs because they will not get the wild card.
Posted: 07:40 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 fred
You could see that DP coming last week
Posted: 07:41 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
I go to my friends wedding in Pittsburgh on the 18th for a few days, and by the time I leave they better have traded for that starter so they can work on getting a reliever and a contact hitter for the rest of the two weeks
no excuses fo rthis shit anymore. you want to win? well the opposition just laid down the gauntlet. now its our turn
Posted: 07:42 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Kenny
just release him…by dumb luck you can bat better then .200
Posted: 07:43 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 NEPA
I’m lovin’ your passion Geoff.
Posted: 07:44 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 thom
phillies need to go out an acquire a bat now to. I would like to see the phillies drop ruiz aka dp waiting to happen now and bring up marson or any other walking catcher who could hit more then .207.
Posted: 07:44 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
The A’s actually got a halfway decent haul. LaPorta is going to be the face of the Indians franchise for 10 years though. The A’s haul is more mlb-ready though. Beane has tons of starters to plug right in there though and have no drop off. hes such a good GM. That team will be in the playoffs next year if not this year.
Posted: 07:45 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
hey man, my dog can run pretty fast and catch tennis balls on the fly. If I can team him how to hit maybe he can replace geoff jenkins.
Posted: 07:47 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Kenny
Geoff is right…you dont do anything before the trade deadline not only do you fuck yourself this season but you also fuck yourself in the off season…what quality player in their right mind wants to play for a team that shits the bed every year and does nothing about it. Im sick of it and as fans we deserve better than this.
Posted: 07:47 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 NEPA
If Hamels gives up like 2 or 3 runs over 8 innings and we lose this game, I might not watch another game til after the All Star break. They can’t waste a great start when they get one, especially if they only come once or twice per rotation.
Posted: 07:49 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
had to get that off me chest there
Posted: 07:53 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Kenny
the sixers are making trades and the phillies are not how sickening is that
Posted: 07:57 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Dave
Looks like the central up the game. I think the phils should stay away from bedard he is bad news, but yet again we look to be in a lose lose market now.
Posted: 07:59 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Kenny
Sarge is explaining to everybody how he loves giving Pujols head….just take it out of your mouth while you talk Gary
Posted: 08:00 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 thom
very sickening being that ed snider couldnt care less bout the sixers and the flyers are making signings and doing what ever they can to get better. The phillies havent shown signs to do that ever.
Posted: 08:01 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Kenny
we do more dishing out talent then getting any
Posted: 08:03 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Derek
What trade did the sixers make?
Posted: 08:05 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 thom
im tired of the phillies standing pat every year.
Posted: 08:06 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
gillick better be talking to GM’s like right now and theyd better come out tomorrow and annoucne tha tthey get a number 2 starter
Posted: 08:07 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Kenny
sorry was not trade…free agency….elton brand and the sixers and trying to finalize a contract
Posted: 08:08 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 thom
i think maybe we should look at aaron harang.
Posted: 08:09 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Gnomicide
Guys, just because two teams jumped on trades early in the month doesn’t mean we are standing pat. Nearly the entire month is left, those two teams just moved early and aggressive.
Honestly I would have taken CC, but I wouldn’t want to have given up everything for Harden. Bedard should be #1 on the radar and I think he always was. A 1-2 of Cole and Bedard would be great for us down the stretch. Makes the other 4-5 mediocre starters we have need to scrap to keep their place in the rotation / majors.
Gillick is a good GM and knows what he is doing. I honestly think he always knew we didn’t have enough for those two guys.
Posted: 08:11 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 NEPA
4 Innings, O Runs – more of the same for the Phils.
Posted: 08:13 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
and the phillies should be up 5-1 but are losing because of LOB runners
Posted: 08:14 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 thom
i want a hitter
Posted: 08:14 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 fred
Ruiz grounds into a DP, Feliz pops up the 1st pitch with 2 runners on. Some things never change eh. And i wouldn’t trade for Bedard, too much of an injury risk and dosn’t go deep enough into games. I’d move Myers to the pen because everyone already there is injured (gordon, seanez) or just not that good (romero, durbin). Then maybe i’d go after Maddux. But it isn’t really the pitching that sucks, it’s the hitting. Any trade involving Victorino is suicide, if anything i’d look to ADD offense in the way of a OF or C.
Posted: 08:16 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 thom
maddux anit happeing cause he wont come here. i saw that this afternoon on DNL.
Posted: 08:18 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 NEPA
Durbin, not that good? What, did you watch one game all year – where he gave up the HR to Tatis? Don’t bother posting nonsense like that.
Posted: 08:18 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
maddux? are you serious? you have that type of guy in moyer, meaning an old man who cant go deep into a game too often. basically you have cole hamels and then 4 guys that are only good on average for 5-6 innings. that is and will KILL this bullpen. because of that wear, they already need another bullpen arm. now, to lessen that, you need a STUF starter who can go deep into the game. i really dont care if you have to trade victorino or not. hes a retard at the plate who lucks into a double once in a while. they need to trade for a centerfielder who doesnt swing at the first pitch. jenkins is worthless but i think were stuck with him for the rest of the year (groans).
there are guys out there for cheap who can help in center or in right. you still need a starter.
go for maddux as your big score? thats bullshit. thats the kind of attitude that we need the front office to shed in order to become a serious contender.
WTF?
Posted: 08:22 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
wtf? JOEL PINIERO? that guy is a 4th or 5th starter and hes moqwing them down
Posted: 08:23 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Im extra fired up tonight because i just hooked up my brand new LCD HDTV only to watch these douchebags pull the same old shit.
Posted: 08:25 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 thom
yeh i think the phillies need to get a contact hitter to play 3rd, C or of choose 1 i almost have to say that might be a top prioty now.
Posted: 08:26 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
MLBTR has good breakdowns of each positions available players this years trade deadline
Posted: 08:27 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 NEPA
Well, 2 HR’s but both solo shots. Big inning here with Vic, Utley and Howard. I’m thinking we gotta score this inning.
Posted: 08:31 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 TJ
Elton Brand is staying with the LAC. I’m a clippers fan, random, I know but I love medium market teams. Clippers, Phillies, and the Packers and NJDevils.
Posted: 08:34 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Getting a lefty could be scary. Hamels, Bedard, Moyer, Happ, Kendrick…4 lefties
Posted: 08:34 PM on July 8, 2008