Gamenight: Cardinals (50-40) At Phillies (48-42)
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Tue, July 08, 2008 06:47 PM | Comments: 290
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After a damning series loss to the Mets, the Phillies begin a three-game series with the Cardinals at the Vault. Last time the Phils played Saint Louis they lost two of three. We only pray that’s not the case this time. The Phils have six games to go before the All-Star break, and they’re falling on their knees getting there.
JC Romero has a nagging injury; Rudy Seanez is having shoulder trouble. These aren’t good things. The Phils can use a break — moreover, tonight the Phils can use a sterling performance from their starter, Cole Hamels. Chances are he will deliver such a thing.
The Phils’ righties are hitting just .239 against right-handed pitchers. So tonight, of course, Jayson Werth, Pedro Feliz and Carlos Ruiz make up the back of the order.
To put it out there, Brett Myers will start Saturday for AA Reading (not making a road trip to Pawtucket), while Pat Burrell is still trailing Corey Hart and David Wright in Final Vote balloting. Come on people, VOTE BURRELL.
Phillies: Cole Hamels (9-5) 3.22 ERA
Cardinals: Joel Piniero (2-4) 4.52 ERA
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EST
Weather: 86, partly cloudy
Lineup: Rollins/Victorino/Utley/Howard/Burrell/Werth/Feliz/Ruiz/Hamels
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Your gamenight beer: Once I recommended Arrogant Bastard Ale. Tonight it’s Double Bastard, because this team needs a kick in the pants. They need a big series win against a good NL team. And they need it bad. Eat … something with this. I don’t know. Make something up.
Go Phillies!
Posts: 0 TJ
What the hell, who started the Mets rally cry? What the fuck is this? Let me guess. The Yankees fans kicked you guys out of the New York Chats?
Posted: 09:40 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 BIG NY
well give u heilshit for him and the gulf logo hanging off the leftfield upperdeck near harry the K’s
Posted: 09:41 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Joshua
Another mets fan, read above your comment! it was a typo.
Geoff, but CBP produces ALOT of cheap homeruns
Posted: 09:41 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 fred
Joshua, I think the only Phillie who strongly benefits from CBP is Pat the Bat. The short porch in left aids his pull swing and gives him the odd cheapy. Everyone else benfits for sure, but most of the power hitters in the team are lefties, and the dimensions favour right handed hitters and thus players such as Coste and Feliz, theoretically, should reap the rewards more. Unfotunatley visiting teams seem to be able to use the park to their advantage far more than we do lately
Posted: 09:42 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Adam C.
Well, Mets have a more favorable schedule the rest of the way. 72 games left, 33 of which are against NL dregs San Fran (2), Colorado (3), Cincy (4), Houston (7), San Diego (3), Pittsburgh (5), and Washington (9). that’s 36%.
Only 3 more against St. Louis, 3 against Milwaukee, and 4 against the Cubs (11%). 9 against the Marlins and 8 more against the Phils.
Conclusion: When the Mets choke and fail to win the division, and/or fail to reach the playoffs, ALL THE NEW YORK IDIOT FANS WILL RECOGNIZE WHAT A FRAUD THEY REALLY ARE…MINAYA, WILPONS, ALL OF THEM!
And remember NY’ers: You guys will always be second place in town to the Yankees! Go Yanks – Fuck Mets.
Posted: 09:42 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 BIG NY
want me to bring more mets fans to ur little blog happy place i can get NYY fans to chime in
Posted: 09:42 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 ryan
well. the phillies looked like the worst team in all of baseball tonight. i seriously thing an american legion team coulda went in there and beat them tonight. they were beyond awful. so predictable too. there is absolutely nobody on this team that knows how to hit for the situation. how predictable was it that Ruiz was gonna hit into that DP? i called it the second he stepped to the plate. i also knew that with runners on second and third in the first wouldn’t cross the plate. it’s just so predictable and pathetic at this point. they were absolutely shameful tonight and i really hope charlie is chewing them apart right now in the clubhouse.
Posted: 09:43 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Gillick's vacation started last year
Man Gillick that offense is good. They’re soo consistant too. We deff don’t need another bat, just pitching which you refuse to give prospects up for. We’re on the right track. Does a slump really last over a month or is that just a sign of overated hitting.
Posted: 09:44 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Joshua
Fred, ok if the mets choke the rest of the way, they will look like idots..the problem is, with the schedule tehy have the rest of the way, i don’t think that is possible.
Posted: 09:45 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 BIG NY
the phillies sched is harder then the mets and i think the mets will be in control sooner rather then later. VOTE DAVID WRIGHT
Posted: 09:46 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
yes, a reporter actually asked if they were going to get another everyday hitter too. haha
Posted: 09:48 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Joshua
fellow New yorkers, is anyone as excited as i am to listen to mike and the mad dog tomorrow and hear chris russo B**ch about tim linsecum and how the mets beat him?
Posted: 09:48 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 TJ
Here’s what I would do if I were Gillick tonight, walk straight into that locker room, tell Ruiz to pack his fucking bags with a straight face in front of the whole team so its effective then tell Charlie to sit JRoll, it seemed to work last time.
Posted: 09:49 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 BIG NY
o yea
Posted: 09:49 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 JustAnotherMetsFan
Put it in the books… Mets win!
Posted: 09:49 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
good call TJ. that shit works sometimes. you cant overuse it but tonight is a prime time to do it.
Posted: 09:51 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Vernon Dozier
The Phillies are 13-1 in their games against the Braves & Rockies this season, and 35-42 in all their other games. Maybe they should consider being sellers at the trade deadline. This mix of players isn’t working.
Posted: 09:51 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 BIG NY
1.5 back and the footsteps grow louder and louder and closer and closer and now the race is on and i think the CBP is not a good home field adv for the phills
Posted: 09:51 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
its mean, but this is their job. you have to take your job seriously, whatever it is.
Posted: 09:52 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Bubba
There is absolutely no need to talk trash in July. I don’t even bother going on NY posts. Now come September theres no doubt i will, and althought i’ll hate it i won’t mind Mets fans ragging on us then. But until September don’t talk trash its just pointless. Its basbeall theres way too many games to be played and way too many more bumps for both teams.
Posted: 09:52 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Joshua
Pelf is 5 for 5 so far possible 15 game winner?
Posted: 09:52 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
CBP is an advantage if you have good pitchers. liek awesome pitchers. im talking hamels number 2 kendrick 4 sinkerballer 5 sinkerballer
Posted: 09:53 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
yes those others are guys they dont yet have. but hamels 2 moyer kendrick happ is better than having eaton and myers in there
Posted: 09:53 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
but moyer has to retire at the end of this year. your 3rd guy has to be a little bit of a stud too. im talking like 14-16 wins
Posted: 09:54 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Gillick's vacation started last year
TJ. I agree with you. Ruiz is flat out terrible. He has a gun for an arm but when pitchers have a better batting avg then you your not worth it. And when is jroll going to learn he’s not a homerun hitter and stop flying out. I’d sit him. He’s your leadoff man, he’s supposed to get on base right? He swings at the first 2 pitches everytime. I don’t remember the last time he drew a walk.
Posted: 09:56 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
he needs the all star break more than anyone, jroll i mean. he has actually legitimately become willy mays hays in major league 2 when he thinks hes a power hitter at the beginning of the season. he was a SICK leadoff hitter last year. now hes performing like a 7th hitter and so is shane. werth is the only leadoff hitter acting like it out there. this lineup is so f’d up without aaron rowand and all of these guys hititn gin a funk
Posted: 10:00 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 TJ
We need Dejesus, Freel, or Taveras. They will do more for our team then a starter that shows up once every five days.
Posted: 10:03 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
i think its both though. marson called up, starter, reliever, outfielder.
i see 4 huge holes here that will kill this team and prevent them from making the playoffs if not addressed
Posted: 10:05 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
ill go taveras, bedard or burnett or shock creative move as good as those guys, fuentes, marson replacing ruiz
Posted: 10:06 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Gillick's vacation started last year
I say go trade howard away for prospects to an AL team. Then trade those prospects plus some of your own for Matt Holliday and and a pitcher. Then instead of .215 hitter batting cleanup you have a .320 hitter there and you gain a pitcher. Hey i’d give up howard for that.
Posted: 10:10 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 TJ
Marson would be huge for this club, a starter we need and a reliever would be nice. I’m starting to gain faith in Myers because this team can’t go much lower than it is now.
Posted: 10:11 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
too complicated to do in two weeks
Posted: 10:11 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
myers has to be traded along with victorino and prospects if you want a hitter a starter and a reliever. eaton and ruiz have no value. those guys plus prospects in 3 seperate deals will get you what you need
Posted: 10:13 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Gillick's vacation started last year
There’s no deal that is too complicated. Thats why your paying the front office the big bucks. How do 3 and 4 team deals happen a day before the deadline. Its not too late untill 12:00 that night.
Posted: 10:14 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
sure. too complicated for gillick. hes a lazy bum. not for billy beane
Posted: 10:16 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 TJ
So much for wishful thinking Geoff. But Gillick would definitely not trade Howard in the middle of this season.
Posted: 10:16 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Gillick's vacation started last year
the last thing this team can afford to lose is Victorino. Rowand was the motivator last year this year its evident to see its Victorino. He’s the one thats putting the shaving cream in the guys face’s when they win and he’s the one pumping his fists when he throws out the game tying run in Atlanta and hitting the game winner against the mets. They can’t afford to lose him. They’ll have a bunch of people who just don’t care
Posted: 10:16 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Ceetar
PANIC!
Posted: 10:18 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
i hope they do something too, dont get me wrong. i guess youre right about vic but they have to be very creative. they need an absolute stud for the rotation. sheets and sabathia is an AWESOME one two punch. the cubs counter with Zambrano Harden Dempster.
now what do we have? they need to get a serious motherfucker in there. burnett bedard somone MAD good.
Posted: 10:20 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 TJ
We have to trade him if we want anything we need back. Give us Taveras, P spect and Aaron Cook for Victorino, I’d take it.
Posted: 10:20 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Gillick's vacation started last year
Hey maybe get Randy Wolfe back. And we can also bat him 4th and he can play outfield on his off days. Maybe that will spark the offense. Our picthers will then officially be batting better than Ruiz.
Posted: 10:24 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 AdamCisgey
Although there are some dumb met fans posting, Adam C, don’t you realize that NY is the center of the world? Didn’t the state relinquish control of Philly’s public schools to a private company? I wouldn’t be calling New Yorkers “idiots,” it is really no contest between the two cities
Posted: 10:29 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 RiVLez
1.5 GB Thanks GLHF……..Only a few weeks ago all I saw on here was shit talking that the Mets are completely done, they don’t have a chance and that the phillies will win the division. It’s only July and no way the phillies joke of a pitching staff will hold up to win the division. And to the guy above that said to trade Howard you are on crack. Guy has 24 HR and 78 RBI and he hits over .300 with RISP. He’s a huge part of their offense. I think the phillies would suffer terribly. And who’s this guy he’s going to magically bat .320 in place of Howard?
Posted: 10:31 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 ryan
no. anybody who’s been to CBP when the mets are in town knows that “idiots” is way too generous a word for those pathetic , ugly, fat, greasy mother fuckers that route for the mets. they are below human. and did i mention ugly? goddamn they are tough to look at.
Posted: 10:34 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Gillick's vacation started last year
Matt Holliday dip shit read the post. Do you watch the games. Do you realize he literally strikes out more than he gets a hit. Holliday has much better numbers. He may hit .300 w/ runners in scoring position but he hits .115 w/ no runners on. Woah watch out thats threatening. Plus you can never count on him against a left hander. He’s terrible. Pops one once every 3 games and people think he’s doing great. When is he breaking out of this slump that he’s been in since April.
Posted: 10:35 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 That Guy
Dear Big NY: what part of central Jersey are you from? I think I know you. Dear Geoff: Why do you take every opportunity to bash the NFL? There are a lot of scumbags in the league but at least they all play for the Cowboys now and they were morally bankrupt to begin with. Its still a great game. Dear Everybody: for the last time, Myers and Eaton have ZERO trade value right now
Posted: 10:35 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
I bash the NFL because one of their players gets arrested every day. They are all on HGH and theyve ordered hits on roid dealers to cover up the extent of the problem. half the teams cheat and every 5 minutes a player wants a new contract when they all are grossly overpaid like all pro athletes. THe owners charge 20-150000 for personal seat licenses and fleece the public more than ANY other sport does in taxpayer funded stadiums.
Posted: 10:42 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Mike W.
What a great night, the E Brand show is coming to town. Let’s consider this night awesome despite the Phils crap, it’s the only way to not get too frustrated.
Sixers will re-sign iggy, unless they can move him in a sign-and-trade for a shooting guard with better shooting ability. this is gonna be a very very nice team this year.
Posted: 10:43 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 That Guy
At least you can fire a guy for not doing his job in the NFL
Posted: 10:43 PM on July 8, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
its completely morally and ethically bankrupt. baseball recognized their problem.
the nfl covers up its problem and has murdered people to cover it up.
a well known roid dealer was fouind shot to death in his home only hours after meeting with nfl reps to divulge what he knew about the extent of the roid/hgh problem in the nfl. that was on the news like 6 weeks ago.
Posted: 10:43 PM on July 8, 2008