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Posted by Tim Malcolm, Thu, July 31, 2008 11:15 AM | Comments: 44
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The Marlins acquired Arthur Rhodes today from the Mariners for pitching prospect Gabby Hernandez.
Rhodes has a 2.86 ERA this season, missing last year to Tommy John. He pitched for the Phillies in 2006 and had an ERA over 5.00.
That puts the Phillies watch list down one man in the left-handed reliever category, and I’m not losing sleep over this one.
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Posts: 0 fred
Great news :D
Posted: 11:17 AM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Jamie
Thank God we didn’t give anything up for him. He’s a bum.
Posted: 11:20 AM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
that guys is horrible. no wirries there. glad we didnt give up carlos carrasco for him. thats what ed wade would have done.
Posted: 11:21 AM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 NEPA
Yea, not too upset about this one. Can’t wait to see Utley bomb one off him in a big spot.
Posted: 11:28 AM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Dave
Thank god.
I misread it and thought WE picked him up.
Do not want.
Posted: 11:35 AM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Brian
Happy this happened, Rhodes first go around here was just terrible. And he isnt getting any younger. Let the marlins get him so we can hit him around a little.
Although we deffinetly do need another lefty in the pen to give JC some help.
Posted: 11:45 AM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 MA Phanatic
phew
Posted: 11:49 AM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Griffin
my favorite Arthur Rhodes quote on the late Cory Lidle: “all he wants to do is fly his plane and eat ice cream”
Posted: 12:49 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 NEPA
Haha, yea that was the gist of it. I know he said all he wants to do is fly his airplane and gamble. And that after his starts he would sit in the club house and eat ice cream. I’d want Rhodes back if he was full of those little gems.
Posted: 01:01 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 The Glider
I hear the Phillies pulled Golson from today’s AA Reading game. …. ??????
Posted: 01:04 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
did they now….ominous
Posted: 01:06 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Rob
Rhodes gets the loss last night against the Rangers
IP H R ER BB SO HR
0.2 0 1 1 3 0 0
The Marlins manage to make their already horrible pitching staff a BIT worse. Nice
Posted: 01:08 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 nutty professor
Horrible pitching staff, Rob? I’d say Nolasco, Johnson, Olsen, and Anibal Sanchez are as good as any team in the NL East. Rhodes will be used to get lefties out and will fall in line after Pinto. It’s not like adding Huston Street to the bullpen, but the Marlins have a lot more talent than people are willing to give them credit for.
Posted: 01:11 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Rob
If they’re so close, Arthur Rhodes certainly does not put them over the hump. Maybe they’d play better with their staff in the NL West, but not in this division.
Posted: 01:18 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Anth
Golson did not start today in CF for Reading, a trade perhaps?
Posted: 01:29 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
I think if you put those Marlins pitchers on other teams, they are all #3, #4 type guys.. Olsen sucks.. Nolasco is good, ive got him on fantasy so ive been watching him whenever I can.
Johnson looked good two weeks ago, and Sanchez needs to stay healthy… is Andrew Miller still in their rotation?
They made out like bandits in the Cabrera/Willis to the tigers trade… Maybin is going to be a stud and Andrew Miller is supposed to be very good too
Posted: 01:31 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Yea he’s gotta be involved in trade talks…. Golson, Donald, and ?? to KC for Mahay and Guillen is my best guess
Posted: 01:31 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
andrew miller is some sort of raw doppleganger of cole hamels except not as good. its a strange thing.
guilles: .259 14 hr 71 rbi
eh, you kow what? im ok with that, hell help because there are no .300 hitters realistically left anymore.
mahay/guillen is a decent get. i will admit that i was out of line there.
golson and donald clearly will be in the deal. ill bet two more prospects are also involved.
Posted: 01:35 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
you’d improve this year, and hold onto Carrasco and Marson.. I wonder if you would need to give them Bastardo or something as well?
Posted: 01:38 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
probably bastardo or castro and a lesser prospect??? i dont know. does that sound like enough?
it sounds like itd be close .
Posted: 01:39 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
bastardo/castro, donald, golson, other prospect
Posted: 01:40 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Trent
FUCK ARTHUR RHODES!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST ANOTHER STUPID NIGG
Posted: 01:45 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 nutty professor
Don – I’m not sure that Olsen “sucks,” but on the Fish he only needs to be a #4 behind Nolasco, Johnson, and Sanchez. That means he matches up against Myers or Kendrick for the Phils and Pelfrey for the Mets, and I don’t really see that much of a difference. Talk all you want about Myers’ potential or Kendrick getting better run support, the bottom line is Olsen’s numbers compare with both of their’s, so if Olsen sucks the Phils better take a long hard look in the mirror.
Posted: 01:46 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 nutty professor
ok, wow, I hope trent does not surmise the rationale of phillies nation. that post should be removed ASAP
Posted: 01:47 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Seems like more than enough for a reliever and an outfielder…
I don’t know much about guillen other than his stats show he drive in runs, and doesn’t walk much..
fielding percentage of only .961 in RF though… FP% of 1.000 in leftfield, and it looks like he splits time in both spots.. 37 games in LF, 39 in RF… 8 outfield assists, 3 errors
Posted: 01:48 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Tom
did golsen really get pulled?
Posted: 01:51 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 nutty professor
Jose Guillen is the worst clubhouse cancer in baseball. Look him up on wikipedia and see how many in-house fights he creates. He’s a loser and should be avoided at all costs if you wish to make the playoffs.
Posted: 01:53 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
what about david dejesus then? i think hes too young to move but its the royals
Posted: 01:55 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Olsen carreer numbers… 29-32, 4.64 ERA, 1.47 WHIP
This year he’s 6-6, 4.04 ERA, 1.32 WHIP
Adam Eaton’s career numbers… 68-63, 4.80 ERA, 1.42 WHIP
Brett Myers career… 63-56, 4.46 ERA, 1.37 WHIP
Kyle Kendrick career… 18-9, 4.27 ERA, 1.39 WHIP
I would say his numbers most closely resmble Adam Eaton..
Posted: 01:57 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Yea I didn’t see that… but thats not cool at all
Posted: 01:59 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
yeah guilles was a roid user too. hes in the mitchell report i remember.
Posted: 02:00 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 nutty professor
why are you bothering with career numbers? moyer’s ERA this year is 3.79, but his career ERA is 4.20. which number means more to you? this year’s. so go by this year’s numbers. and this year’s numbers tell you that olsen is pitching better than a #4, and is pitching better than any of the phillies choices for #4.
Posted: 02:00 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
I’d rather have Moyer and Myers over Olsen… Im not sold on Kendrick the way everyone else is, because he can look outstanding one start, and blowup the next.
Adam Eaton is going to dominate!!!
..
…
… when the move him up to A- Clearwater, from the low-A Lakewood team..
Posted: 02:07 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
isnt that funny? he got single to single A, HAHAHAHA
Posted: 02:08 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Chase Mutley
Scott Olsen’s weak jaw bothers the shit out of me.
Posted: 02:09 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 nutty professor
Don, the point is Olsen does not “suck,” and that it’s entirely irresponsible to write off the Marlins just because they have a bunch of guys you’ve never heard of or have never lived up to expectations before. This year they’re all putting it together at the right time, and with Johnson and Sanchez back in the fold they become even more dangerous. Please don’t overlook them.
Posted: 02:10 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Jesus Christ Sherman… I’m just saying I don’t think they are as good as the Phillies or the Muts
Besides Hanley Ramirez.. and MAYBE Mike Jacobs, they don’t have true-playas that scare me
Posted: 02:13 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
The Marlins have 4 #2′s in their rotation. That’s pretty solid. I’d take the 4 #2′s over the Phillies #1 and 4 #4′s(even if one of those #4s is pitching like a #2 and the other #4 has the potential to be a #2.)
Posted: 02:18 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Mets Interested In Luis Ayala
By Tim Dierkes [July 31 at 1:12pm CST]
According to Jon Heyman of SI.com, the Mets are discussing reliever Luis Ayala with the Nationals. Omar Minaya “badly wants a reliever.”
The 30 year-old carries a 5.54 ERA in 50.1 innings, though he’s pitched better than that.
hahahaha what a joke.
Posted: 02:19 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Jamie
I’d like to see them get Mahay. Donald would be expendable because he’s blocked by J-Roll, and I could live without Golson as long as we make an effort (a serious one) to resign Burrell. We’re going to be in a shit-heap without him next year. Who’s going to carry LF everyday? Jenkins? We’d have to give up Donald and probably one or two more prospects. I’m not sold on Guillen.
Posted: 02:20 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Chase Mutley
Uggla owned the Mets the other night. They’ve got a great, young team. They Mets and Phillies might be better on paper but the Marlins have been more consistent than both teams all year.
Posted: 02:26 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 bob
phillies suck
Posted: 03:03 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 bob
phillies suck
Posted: 03:04 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 bob
phillies will lose it all
Posted: 03:05 PM on July 31, 2008