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Posted by Tim Malcolm, Thu, July 31, 2008 03:47 PM | Comments: 132
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Buster Olney has written the obituary on this deadline for the Phillies. He says they look to be sitting out of the left-handed reliever sweepstakes.
It’s more likely a LOOGY will come after waivers.
Charlie Manuel
$3 million
$25 million
$20 million
$20 million
$19.5 million
$16 million (Texas pays $10 million)
$15 million
$13 million
$11 million
$5 million
$5 million
$4.5 million
$2.5 million
$1.5 million
$1.4 million
$1.35 million
$850,000
$750,000
$495,000
$492,500
$485,000
$480,000
$480,000
$480,000
$414,000
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Posts: 0 Geoff
and thats why the phillies are losers…
one championship
a team on the brink of contending once again and they decide, well just pick up somebody off waivers. WAIVERS! are you SERIOUS?!
thats why you dont win anything because you dont address gaping holes in the roster. idiots.
Posted: 03:51 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Pete
Fortunately, Amaro has had years to learn all the secrets of the Phillies FO, so we won’t need to worry about any impact moves at the deadline for another 5-6 years at least.
Posted: 03:55 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Griffin
To be honest, what could they really do? Who is out there right now that can help this team? Holliday and Halladay are not available. Manny is staying put, the Phillies can’t match the Rays prospects in order to deal for Bay. What is out there to trade for? (within reason)
Posted: 03:55 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
there are tons of relievers out there. they didnt want them. if you want them you get them unless the other team is being unreasonable like colorado.
mahay, sherrill, ohman are still there
Posted: 03:58 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Brian
This why the race for the NL East will come down to the last week of the season again.
Posted: 03:58 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Paul
I am actually kind of glad they didn’t trade a quality prospect for some old situational lefty like Rhodes.
Geoff, the Phillies have been able to pick up guys through waivers remember Lohse? Moyer? etc… etc…
Posted: 03:59 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Ohman wouldn’t come to the PHillies. The Braves would not trade with the Phillies unless the were dumb.
Posted: 03:59 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 JIM
Ill waive my middle finger at pat gillick
Posted: 04:00 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Griffin
Is Ron Mahay really the difference between a successful and terrible trading deadline? He’s Ron freakin Mahay! They can still get another loogy in the next couple of weeks. It’s not like everyone else in the NL East made any moves
Posted: 04:01 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 bbewsirhc
WELL FOLKS. IF YOU ALREADY ARE NOT USED TO IT. YOU BETTER GET READY, B/C THE NEXT GM IS GOING TO BE AMARO AND HE WAS ED WADES “YES MAN”
NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE AS LONG AS DAVID MONTGOMERY AND THE OTHER OWN THIS FRANCHISE.
GILLICK IS OUR ONLY LIGHT TO DO SOMETHING…WE JUST NEED TO BITE OUR LIP AS FANS AND HOPE THE STICKS NEVER DIE.
Posted: 04:01 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
keyword is WAIVERS. you want to leave that to chance? i dont. tahts a risk/gamble. youre hoping that people will be out there. sure, they will be guys out there. but theyre waiver-wire people. theyre INFERIOR. they got lucky with lohse and moyer.
stars get traded, not waived. dont give me that mediocre bullshit.
you must WANT to be mediocre. because thats what the waiver-wire is. mediocre bullshit.
kyly lohse was OK for us, and when he left he got REAL pithcing coach who made him into a monster. moyer is just there. hes ok, better this year than he has been, but not a world -beater at all.
Posted: 04:02 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Julie
I think deep down we all knew that the Phils wouldn’t trade for anyone, so no one should be surprised. I’m with Griffin – I don’t think there’s anyone out there that the Phils could have reasonably gotten without giving up some key pieces. Let’s count our gains here – no one else in the NL east got significantly better. We can beat the mets and the marlins with the team we have now. Let’s just hope all our guys play to their potential…
Posted: 04:02 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
3:00pm: Rosenthal has a source saying Bay to the Rays is off “unless a miracle happens.” He has Bay headed to Boston once again.
Posted: 04:02 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
YO! the phillies have three big holes still
SP
SU-man/LOOGY
EVERYDAY RF
none of those were addressed. theyre not good enough to win the WS are they are now.
Posted: 04:03 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
3:02pm: Rosenthal stirs things up: the three-headed Manny-Bay-Hermida deal is back on.
I think Ken Rosenthal knows that he needs to do that because now that the deadline is over he has nothing better to do.
Posted: 04:05 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
these baseball reporters annoy me. rosenthal, olney, every 5 minutes they change their story. its on, now its off, etc. VERIFY THE STORY BEFORE YOU RUN IT.
Posted: 04:06 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
YO!
Posted: 04:07 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
YOO!
Posted: 04:08 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Geoff, they’re probably just bored and want to get people excited. Instead they gave me a heart attack because I thought the Marlins were getting Manny.
Posted: 04:08 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
only the most immature posters post as someone else another reason for registration modules
Posted: 04:09 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
I’m going to go take a nap, something I should have did hours ago. I have a big test for school in like 2 hours. wtf. Fucking Pat Gillick ruined my day.
Posted: 04:10 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Chris.I
Well it’s 4:10, and the Gillick shot us once again in the heart..As much as I love this team, I’m sorry to say that we don’t have what it takes to go all the way this year. Slowly, but surely we’ll fall somewhere in the 2nd or 3rd place in the NL East by the end of august. What a disaster.
Posted: 04:10 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Griffin
With all the moves the Muts and the Marlins made, we can’t possibly win the division we’re currently leading. It’s not like Gillick could ever get someone after the deadline who could help us (Moyer). We should all just give up.
If you want to knock the front office for not drafting well and not having the prospects to trade for Sabathia, then fine. But what were they supposed to do today, did I miss something?
Posted: 04:19 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Pete
Call up Kris Benson and Les Walrond!
Posted: 04:20 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Kennedy
Well the good OFs who will hit FA in the offseason are:
Mark Kotsay
Manny
Raul Ibanez
Adam Dunn
Willie Bloomquist
Moises Alou
Bobby Abreu
Brian Giles (Possibly, if the team declines a 9m option with a 3m buyout)
and Burrell
They had better resign Burrell, because there is no-one on that list I can see them signing to replace his production.
Posted: 04:24 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
tahts a rough list. they have to resign burrell. adam dunn is overrated trash. strikeout machine.
Posted: 04:25 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 metsfan
MANNY JUST TRADED TO THE DODGER’S!!!!!!
Posted: 04:28 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Chase Mutley
Maybe the Dodgers can get two games over .500 now?
Posted: 04:30 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 GrrrumpyMiner
Manny to the dodgers! Thank God!
Posted: 04:30 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 J-Man
Pat Gillick sucks…And BTW Mannys gone to the Dodgers.
Posted: 04:31 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 metsfan
I am not sure for who yet.
Posted: 04:31 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Griffin
I haven’t seen Manny to the Dodgers anywhere
Posted: 04:31 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 metsfan
Its a 3 way trade possibaly with JASON BAY involved!!!
Posted: 04:32 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Rob
If Howard and Dunn were on the same squad they’d produce like 280 runs between the 2 of them and strike out 400 TIMES haha.
Posted: 04:32 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 metsfan
JASON BAY GOES TO RED SOX!!!
Posted: 04:33 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 metsfan
Not sure who Pirates get yet.
Posted: 04:33 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Griffin
Will Carroll is reporting that it’s just the rumor but it’s not confirmed. Sounds just like Manny to the marlins and Bay to the Rays….just talk for now
Posted: 04:34 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Groty
Kewl, look at what I found!
http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/edb/reader.html?magID=SI&issueDate=19650301&mode=reader_vault
Posted: 04:34 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 metsfan
Ok 4 minors prospects to the Pirates!!
Posted: 04:34 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 metsfan
No I hear MANNY TO DODGER’S, BAY TO RED SOX, 4 MINOR ‘S TO THE PIRATES!
Posted: 04:35 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Eb
I am starting a sell the Phillies campaign to get rid of Montgomery
Posted: 04:37 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 metsfan
What about the Mets & Phillies? THIS SUCKS!!!
Posted: 04:37 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Rob
ya EB, get rid of fuckin Montgomery and the other 8 or 9 owners the Phils have that are too afraid to come out of the woodworks. Sell the team already to someone committed to winning. There would be many bidders. SELL SELL SELL, give us a winner.
Posted: 04:39 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Kennedy
the dodgers just got manny
Posted: 04:42 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Rob
Kennedy 5:09?
Posted: 04:44 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
i agree. they want dont want to win, they just want to take our money.
if they wanted to win, theyd sell the team to someone with more money or theyd spend the money theyve got stashed away.
you think i feel sorry for those rich ass people? shit or get off the pot: spend the money or get out of the business.
do you want to be the pittsburgh pirates in 5 years?
Posted: 04:47 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 JIM
The dodgers get manny and manage to keep kemp while we settle for jenkins and werth with taguchi as are wonderful defensive replacement
Posted: 04:47 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Griffin
yeah, ESPN is now reporting Manny to the Dodgers. Let’s all remember that although Manny is still a very good hitter, he’s not ’04 Manny anymore and he agreed to waive his no trade clause as long as his new team agreed not to pick up his option thus making him a free agent at the end of the year. So it’s 100 at bats of Manny only.
Posted: 04:47 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Kennedy
yea
Posted: 04:48 PM on July 31, 2008
Posts: 0 Georgie
I agree, Montgomery is just not committed to winning the way Ed Snider is. You can tell when he talks, he’s more concerned with making a big profit for the owners than in bringing a championship to this town. I suggested last year we start a grassroots movement to buy the team. There must be some wealthy people around town who are sick of this loser management, let’s all chip in what we can(Icould swing maybe a couple hundred bucks-haha). Seriously though, something’s got to change or we’ll be waiting another 30 years.
Posted: 04:52 PM on July 31, 2008