Comments on: Olney: No Move For Phillies

By: Geoff

Geoff — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:55:28 +0000

and yes, i know that.

By: Geoff

Geoff — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:54:09 +0000

I just want to win, and theyre not going to win the WS with waiver wire pickups. its that simple, same as last year except this team isnt as good.

By: FantasyManager

FantasyManager — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:29:43 +0000

Or traded Ruiz for Jason Bay.

Gillick is such an IDIOT. That’s a trade I would’ve made in a heartbeat.

Our management is incompetent.

By: FantasyManager

FantasyManager — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:28:44 +0000

Gillick should’ve traded Myers for Manny.

What an idiot. Phillies management never makes any good moves like this.

By: Fred

Fred — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:41:26 +0000

I agree with you, they’re not going to throw him into the fire. I just don’t see him as anything more than a minimal improvement at catcher.

By: Fred

Fred — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:39:16 +0000

Doesn’t matter who was in front of Longoria. 19 HR, 60RBI, .275BA. As a rookie with little pro ball experience equals stud.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:38:47 +0000

They’ve said it before already – they don’t want to bring him up at this point since he does not know the staff. How many clubs call up a rookie catcher in the middle of a pennant race? I can’t think of any offhand. They said they’re going to wait until September or Spring Training.

By: Fred

Fred — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:34:54 +0000

Come on Jamie – how good are you if you’re blocked by Ruiz and Coste?

Remember…cream always rises to the top.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:32:56 +0000

But we’re not going to get to the playoffs if we don’t win the division. How are we going to win the East by trading away our vets for prospects?

By: Jamie

Jamie — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:31:38 +0000

Fred, Fred, Fred…you fail to recognize a couple of important points. First, who did the Rays have blocking Logoria? That’s what I thought. So they had no need to hold him back and develop him. Marson was blocked along the way by Ruiz and Jaramillo, who at the time were considered more developed. The Phils always thought Marson had more upside than Jaramillo, and I think they are right. Point is, none of us know how good these guys are/will be. It’s all a gamble, but is sure is fun debating it. :)

By: Fred

Fred — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:30:30 +0000

What does first place mean? It means we can get to the playoffs and get clocked by the Cubbies. Come on – winning the WS is the goal not first place.

By: Fred

Fred — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:25:38 +0000

So Marson is now in his fifth year of minor ball? Sure he might stick in the bigs but a stud catcher? Stud players don’t spend 4-5 yrs in the minors.

Donald is nothing more than a utility infielder at best. Longoria is a stud player and how many yrs was he in the minors?

Please stop with how good these players are.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:25:35 +0000

and another point…why should we becomes sellers WHEN WE’RE IN FUCKING FIRST PLACE YOU IDIOTS!? It’s not like we’re the Tigers or Nats for Christsakes.

By: Geoff

Geoff — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:25:06 +0000

right, recognizing value. maybe their prospects dont have value like we think they do. obviously, that must be the case because if they DO have value to others, taht would make gillick totally incompetent right?

By: Pete

Pete — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:24:03 +0000

Ah good…more name calling. Guess what – Harden would not have cost the kind of prospects we gave up for Garcia, nor is his salary anywhere close. And do the Phillies not have a competent physician on their staff who can conduct a physical of these players? WTF?

I guess we’d better not offer Sheets a contract in the offseason then.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:22:58 +0000

But if we build for the future and give away our stars now, we’re going to lose now anyways…right? I never said I’d be against trading prospects, because I’m not, but I have always said it has to make sense. For those of you in the cheap seats, that means not giving up too much, and recognizing risk/rewards.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:20:12 +0000

Pete – two words for you…Freddie Garcia. That’s why they stayed away from Harden. Full-throated my ass, douchebag.

By: Geoff

Geoff — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:20:08 +0000

thanks for agreeing, llke EVERY mlb team that doesnt spend outlandish money does too. they ALL do it. if they know they wont win then they become sellers and rebuild. they dont try to fool themselves because its a waste of time. either try and win now or try and build an elite team for the future. phildelphia is sick of the inbetween

By: Geoff

Geoff — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:17:52 +0000

i think hes gona after 2010 when hell be 31

By: Pete

Pete — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:16:17 +0000

I can’t believe the full-throated defense for the front office. They did not even attempt to get Rich Harden. Will he break down? Maybe. Will Bastardo and Carrasco ever pitch in the majors? Maybe. Given the sack of crap Beane was willing to accept for Harden from the Cubs (heck, Beane even threw in a reliever with a 1.10 WHIP), I can’t believe the price would have been too high from the Phils. Certainly what we gave up for Blanton would have gotten it done. But why risk it on a #1/2 pitcher who MIGHT get hurt? Brilliant move from our fearless FO. I’m not going to throw Blanton under the bus yet, but he is nowhere near as good as Harden.

They never appeared to make a serious run at Burnett, either. The only guy they even talked about was Bedard, probably because Gillick is in love with Mariners players. I’m actually glad Bedard got hurt, because he sucks and these morons would have paid WAYYYYY too much for him.

Geoff is right – you either pull out all the stops to win or you pack it in and build for later. If they weren’t going to load up to win this year, they didn’t have to blow the whole team up, but it would have been smart to trade certain pieces in high demand to stock the farm system. Then, use free agency or trades at the winter meetings to come back strong in ’09.

They are just praying to make it to the playoffs again to keep the fans docile enough to choke on some more ticket price hikes. They don’t give flying crap if they win the WS, or even get into it.