Phils Hang With Webb, Win Late
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Sun, July 13, 2008 07:43 PM | Comments: 93
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The Phillies closed out the first half of the 2008 season with a 6-3 win, beating the Diamondbacks via a rope-a-dope style of play. They bobbed and weaved against Arizona ace Brandon Webb, scratching out runs to tie the score. Then they pounced, and it was lethal. The win keeps the Phils ahead of the cavalry in the National League East as the break comes in.
Pat Burrell provided the big blow, a low-ball blast to left field that gave the Phils a 5-2 lead. Pedro “Geico” Feliz provided the extra run via a homer to left. Brad Lidge held on to end the game despite letting up a run during a long inning.
The win went to Ryan Madson, who pitched a seamless eighth. Cole Hamels went the first seven, and while he wasn’t anything dominant, he skipped out of trouble and was helped by some poor Diamondback decisions (though Ryan Howard made a dynamite play to prevent the run from scoring). More than anything, you have to feel for Webb, whose team didn’t give him a chance to score his 14th win.
Jimmy Rollins and Hamels each had big RBI doubles off Webb. But once he was out of the game, it was like taking candy from a Qualls.
The Phils end the first half at 52-44. Not bad. Not overwhelmingly great or anything, but not bad.
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Posts: 0 Griffin
solid win, now we don’t have to hear endless Muts garbage at the all-star game.
Posted: 07:55 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Gnomicide
Was at the game today. Amazing game. I’m 4-0 on the season so far and have tickets for at least 4 more games. I should have just went to all 162 with this luck.
Posted: 08:02 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Chase
did you see how low the pitch that Pat hit was? The guy has tremendous power. Resign Pat!
Posted: 08:18 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
I posted this in the other thread. I figured I’d repost in this thread in case people don’t go back to the old thread so here’s my novel and assessment on the Philles 1st half, what needs to be done the 2nd half, excitement about the Phillies phuture, and some critique towards 2 things other posters said.
Well, I have a lot to say. 1st of all I missed the game, but listened to most of it on the radio. I did catch the 1st 4 innings of the futures game. though, so I’ll start with that.
Marson looked awesome behind the plate. Marson looked good at the plate. I couldn’t gauge Donald. He did throw that ball away, but that was just him trying to show boat in front of scouts. Stupid move, but I’m not going to say he’s bad by that. Carrasco looked filthy. Filthy fastball that had a SHIT LOAD of movement on it. His curve ball and slider were nasty too. I am so fucking excited for them to come play the game in a Phillies uniform. How did Golson do, and how I only saw one at bat by Marson and Donald. Did anyone see if they got any hits?
Geoff, I agree with you almost all of the time on this site, but I really think you need to lay off of Victorino and Moyer. Victorino has been fairly consistent this year. If you want to point fingers point them at Rollins and Utley. I hate to even mention Utley’s name, but recently he has not been stepping up. He had that long 0fer, and he’s gone like 2-30 in with RISP lately. He’s been really streaky. As for Moyer…how can you say anything bad about that guy? He’s pitching amazing, and he’s 45. You’d really take Carrasco, Happ, or Kendrick into the post season over Moyer? He’s got a sub 4.0 ERA. I agree he’s not a 2 or 3 pitcher, but the guy is still solid. The only reason I say he’s not a 3 or 4 is because I don’t know if he can continue this pace, or if he might break down or not. Give the guy a little more credit.
Phils Phan. How can you hate Feliz? Would you rather have Nunez? Nunez was a great 3B, but not as good as Feliz. Nunez also couldn’t hit a watermelon, and yet noone cared because of his D. Feliz is the 3rd best 3B we’ve had in the past 35+ years. He will have 20+ homers 80+ RBI’s. He’ll hit .270. He’s having a good year. Not great, not bad, but good. Give him some credit, especially for his glove.
As for today’s game. I didn’t get to watch it, but I listened in the car. We almost got in an accident because my friend and I were freaking out when Burrell hit his homer. That must have been glorifying. Hamels seemed to be shaky today, but got through it. This will bring me to my final point…Ruiz.
Ruiz is horrible at the plate. He mind as well just not swing with RISP so that there is no way he can GIDP. It’s horrible. At least give the pitcher a chance because the pitcher has a better shot. The thing about Ruiz is that you can’t knock his game calling skills. Hamels was shaky today BECAUSE RUIZ DIDN’T START!!! We have a better record with Ruiz starting than when Coste starts. Ruiz has the lowest ERA for his pitchers than any other catcher in baseball. THAT’S INSANE! We have a mediocre rotation too. Every pitcher that starts for the Phillies have all said the same thing in interviews about Ruiz(other than Moyer), that they love Ruiz behind the plate. They said that he makes them better. The reason I don’t think it matters for Moyer is because something tells me he mostly calls his own game.
We need to do something about a starter during the all-star break. I am sick of this unknowing shit. I want something to happen. If Myers can come back and pitch to his potential and we trade for someone really good, then this pitching staff can be really good.
Hamels
#2
Myers
Moyer
Kendrick
Something needs to be done about Eaton, So, and Jenkins. I don’t care what you trade them for and how much of their salary you have to eat. WERTH IS THE EVERY DAY RIGHT FIELDER!!! What will it take Manuel to realize that? I understand he’s a stroke victim, but how can it make you that dumb?
If these problems can all be address this team should have a monster 2nd half. They’re a 2nd half team. Utley and Rollins need to step it up. Everyone else is doing their job. Victorino, Werth, Feliz, Coste, Dobbs, Moyer, and Kendrick are all having solid years. Hamels, Burrell, and the bullpen are all having great years. Utley and Rollins are streaky and need to be more consistent. If they can play to their potential the 2nd half this team should be ridiculous. Utley will not wint the MVP if he doesn’t play to his potential the 2nd half. Ryan Howard has been ridiculous the past 1 and a 1/2 months. If he can continue his production along with everyone else that is producing well continuing and Utley and Rollins stepping up, this team should have no problem winning the division.
It’s great to be in 1st going into the ASB. They deserve it. They need to spend the week recouping. I kind of wish that Utley and Lidge didn’t go to the ASG. I’d rather them all spend the time resting and practicing. They need that bad. This team should win the division and has potential for more.
GO PHILS!
Posted: 08:23 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Josh
Hah, I’ll have to avoid your games, Gnomicide, in case I jinx that. I think I’m something like 0-5 this year, including two shutouts against Hamels. I’m starting to think I should just ban myself for the good of the team. By the way, I don’t know where that “Geico” nickname came from (I’m guessing the thread during the game?), but it’s brilliant. He certainly does love tacking on those insurance runs late.
Posted: 08:26 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Chase
completely agree Phil. Why not make Ruiz bat 9th and make the pitcher bat 8th. Every one of the Phils pitchers are better hitters than Ruiz.
Posted: 08:27 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
That is one thing I love about Feliz. He doesn’t ever have the clutch hits to tie the game or get the lead(sometimes he does but rarely), but he does give you some insurance runs if you’re up by 2 or 3. I stopped going because I keep watching them lose too Josh. It’s sad too. I was gonna go today, glad I didn’t because they would have lost. My friend always loses when he watches, which is rarely because of his work schedule, but I told him he isn’t allowed to watch the games anymore. haha
Posted: 08:28 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Chase
Where is the NYC pimp now
Posted: 08:29 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Chase
Oh great just great. the muts go up 3-0 on the rockies.
Posted: 08:31 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 RiVLez
METS BITCHES THANKS GLHF
Posted: 08:38 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Chase
muts up 4-0 on the rockies
Posted: 08:44 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Master of the Obvious
Phil. That was the longest post in the history of blogging.
Mark Redman is worse than Adam Eaton. Ouch.
I don’t know if you’ve heard, but Adam Eaton is struggling with staying out of the big inning this career……I mean year.
Posted: 08:44 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
they should resign burrell because golsons showing prompted me to research his numbers. my opinion of him has changed a bit. hes great in the field for sure, but im concerned that his strikeout rate will not translate well to mlb action. despite his batting average this year he has a lot of strikeouts.
id actually be ok with them shipping golson off for AJ Burnett.
Posted: 08:45 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
yes, theyre thin in the outfield, but i think resigning pat burrell will allow them time to build an outfield over time. time to get geoff jenkins out of here, and time to teach shane victorino how to act like an adult, time to bring in a free agent who doesnt suck or trade for someone who doesnt suck.
Posted: 08:47 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Chase
Why not bring golson up and send down or release So.
Posted: 08:49 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
mark redman is the new flagbearer for junkpile garbage pitching. he might be the worst starter in MLB, not sure, but itd be hard to find one worse.
i think that eatons done in the rotation, they might even spot start carlos carrasco to give brett myers more time while JA happ holds down the fort.
Posted: 08:49 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
golson is better defensively than So, so yeah, despire his shakiness at the plate hes an upgrade in the field.
Posted: 08:50 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
all complaining aside, im impressed they were able to hang in against webb long enough to allow hamels to cancel him out.
Posted: 08:52 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Chase
Eaton gets more money than Utley of Lidge? Wow
Posted: 08:53 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Phils Phan
I wouldn’t put much into the Mets beating the Rockies. The Rockies suck.
Now, here’s hoping Atkins gets antsy, the front office gets trade-happy, or something similar. I’d like to see him in pinstripes.
Posted: 08:54 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Adam Eaton's Dad
I want to take this oppurtunity to aplogize to Phillies Nation. Chad Durbin’s dad told me about this blog and I heard that many of you are angry with my son.
Back when Adam was just a youngster, he was a great synchonized swimmer. One time while we were practicing I dunked him and held his face under the water. He cried like a little vagina. I was ashamed. He quit synchonized swimming all together. It was tragic.
But then we found out he had a “live” arm. Although he has no idea how to pitch or what the hell he’s doing, his coaches always kept sending him out there. He only won 1 game in high school and that was a forfeit when the local school for the deaf and blind’s bus broke down.
I’m not surprised by his poor career. I cant believe that Gillick guy paid him 24 mill. Hahaha. Thats unbelievable. Anyway, i want to apologize. If I hadnt of dunked him he would be in Beijing right now practicing for his 3rd gold medal in synchronized aquatic dance.
He told me that he will refuse assignment to AAA, so I guess we’ll just have to get used to each other.
If you want to email me here’s the address.
mysonsashitterpitcher@yahoo.com
Posted: 08:55 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
haha I really wish that was Adam Eaton’s dad. I actually think that the guy that says he’s Durbin’s dad is Durbin’s dad.
Posted: 09:14 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Yeah I really do think its his dad. I believe it.
Posted: 09:18 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Me too. He’s a nice guy and he’s knowledgeable. I should tell him I want an autographed ball.
Posted: 09:23 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Durbins dad I mean
Posted: 09:23 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Dear Mr. Durbin. Can you please ask email me at omgitsf1lpratt@gmail.com and tell me yes or no if there’s a way to get an autographed ball from your son who’s the best right handed bullpen pitcher in baseball? Also, can you give him my condolences about getting snubbed from the ASG like the rest of the Phillies. MARMOL!?!?!?! If you want to keep it a relief pitcher since Wood is gone, WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY TAKE MARMOL OVER DURBIN!? Tell him to enjoy his all-star break and to recoup for the 2nd half.
Posted: 09:25 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Marmol is overrated. He had a good start but hes come back to earth. Hes good but not an all star.
Posted: 09:36 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Boy this colorado team is a bunch of gutless, heartless punks.
Posted: 09:36 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Only players on that team I respect are Helton who is pushing 40, Holliday, and Atkins.
Posted: 09:37 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Yeah I thought their pitching is WAY overrated. Theyve all crashed this year. The Phillies choked hardcore last year. THis team im watching now isnt close to the same WS team from last year. They are total garbage and its mostly the same team!
Posted: 09:39 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Runshouse
Totally heartless… who loses 3 in a row to the Mets?
Posted: 09:46 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 christopher
phil you’re dead on with your comments. the ruiz situation is a double edged sword because of his defense and ability to call a game. in all honesty i’m completely sick of him on the team but i can’t see anything else happening other than a platoon with him and coste for the rest of the year.
the starting pitching situation will be interesting in the second half. i’m looking forward to seeing what happ can do. he has potential, he’s 25, if they’re going to give him a chance to prove he’s a major league pitcher, this is the season to do it. i have a feeling that if and when gillick trades for someone, it’s going to be a name that surprises people. maybe it’ll be burnett, but if i had to guess i’d say it won’t be.
Posted: 09:48 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
If that business with them not liking Burnett is actually true then theyll definitely do somehting out of left field. I doubt theyll be able to afford to wait for bedard to be healthy. By the time bedard gets back his price will skyrocket.
If its a smokescreen though then burnett is their guy.
Posted: 09:51 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Oswalt, Harang, and Bedard are all on the DL now. That really fucks us. I think we’ll make a run at Greinke. I really do. Halladay is a free agent after the 2009 season. Maybe that’s a secret in the works. Wishful thinking, but you never know. I’d give up everyone but Carrasco and Marson for Halladay.
Posted: 09:56 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Yeah I wish we could get roy halladay. That would RULE. We should get dejesus with grienke if we make a run at him however, youre talking unloading the farm for that guy unless the untouchables arent moved.
Posted: 09:58 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
I have no problem unloading the farm so long as it’s not Marson or Carrasco. Our outfield can be Werth, DeJesus, and Victorino next year. We don’t need Golson. We have Utley and Rollins blocking Donald and Cardenas. We’re fine.
Posted: 10:04 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Carrasco and Marson CANNOT be moved. Im glad the phillies have made that clear.
Posted: 10:05 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 philsphan
I agree that Carrasco and Marson are untouchable, but if we want Halladay (if he is available which I doubt) we would probably have to give up at least one.
Posted: 10:10 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Nope. I would give up my left nut for the organization before I let them give up Marson or Carrasco.
Posted: 10:14 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Gavin
Cardenas was bumped up from like prospect #76 in all of MiLB to 23rd in BP latest report. Thats ahead of Max Scherzer/ARI. He should be a good chip.
Posted: 10:14 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Wouldnt worry about that dilemma because roy halladay isnt available.
Posted: 10:15 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
yeah he could be useful in a deal. i liked scherzer when we faced him. he has great potential as well.
Posted: 10:16 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 RiVLez
Runshouse – The Phillies lost three in a row to the Mets you fuckin retard,
Posted: 11:00 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
The Mets won…here come the trolls.
Posted: 11:01 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Mike Pelfrey shut out the rockies. Haha. matt holliday is a FRAUD..
Posted: 11:02 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
The brewers have total new life now that CC is there. theyre a danerous team now. I have tickets to one of the games in the series when they come here, I hope its the sabathia game.
Posted: 11:05 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
time lincecum is 11-2, DAMN
Posted: 11:05 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 RiVLez
Geoff: Rockies swept the Phillies in the playoffs. Haha. Phillies are a fraud.
Posted: 11:17 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
Of course they are. They need like 3 moves before theyre legit contenders.
Posted: 11:18 PM on July 13, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Pelfrey is pitching to his potential now. Holliday isn’t a fraud.
Posted: 11:32 PM on July 13, 2008