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As much as i dont like Ramerez, I think this could provide a better chacne of resigning Burrell.

Move Burrell to 1st and trade Howard for an ACE.

Yes Ramerizez is a Jackass but he is proably the best power hitter i nthe league, and with a short left field he will hit 40+ homers

Nady is having a career year… he aint that good….

They aren’t replacing PAT BURRELL WITH MANNY RAMIREZ if they trade for him… so why do keep comparing the two????

AND has anyone heard what the Sox might ask for in return, because nobody wants him, his value won’t be that high… you would be doing the RedSox a favor by taking on his contract.. Over the 1st half we had the best bullpen in baseball…why trade top prospects for a situational bullpen guy??

Sorry to change the subject but Eaton’s down to the minors….thank the lord.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies_zone/Eaton_Optioned_to_Minors.html

This bullpens been sputtering because theyve been overworked. To fix that you need 1) starters who go deeper into games, and 2) another arm in there at the back end to do shutdown 8th inning work.

im comparing him with burrell and howard to show that hes way overrated and not much better than what we have. ryan howard has been crushing rbis in and is hitting .300+ with RISP. hes the cleanup hitter, theyre not trading him.

i think its a little bit of both georgie. he has been asleep at the wheel and theyre tying his hands. i also think he gets ambushed on some things because other teams know that we arent trading carrasco or marson or golson or donald or happ and they dont like the rest of our farm system so they dont even call pat gillick. the nady thing irritated me because theres a guy having a good year that you can get for not too much because its the pirates and they didnt get any world beaters in return anyway.

does anyone in mlb look like they concentrate more at the plate than pat burrell?

right on

Again, who did you want them to give up the entire farm for, the Rental- Sabathia, or the injury-prone Harden??

I thought you said like an hour ago you were going to wait to see what Blanton does before you decide if he was good or not

I am. But even if blanton is good you and i both know they still need more than that.

i would seriously, legitimately ship rollins to the red sox for leste and promote jason donald and have him split time with eric bruntlett. i wouldnt even think twice about it or bat an eye at it. boom. done. then you go pick up a good outfielder who can play right field every day. pick up someone like john grabow for cheap and boom.

hamels
lester
blanton
kendrick
moyer/happ

you have another rmlb-reayd shortsstop in the system ready to come right in there and contribute. hes the starting shortstop for the olympic team. that makes either him or rollins expendable, yes, expendable. rollins has more trade value obviously, so, boom. there it is. the red sox need a shortstop because theyve been trying to find a reason to DFA julio lugo all year. a slick GM would swoop in there and make lester the centerpiece and get him int eh fold here.

I kind of think lester is untouchable too.

would you trade rollins for bucholz or masterson and other mid-level prospects?

i probably would do that.

Boom!

I really don’t think they should trade Rollins… he won the MVP last year. Donald might be a good SS in the future, but didn’t really project as an everyday MLB guy until this year..

Trading Rollins makes your defense, and your lineup weaker.. and if all you get in return would be a #3 its not worth it..

If Halladay was really available, and you could have made a package, you would have to do it… but Rollins for someone else’s prospects doesn’t make sense

If the Phillies did get Manny, what happens with Jenkins and Werth? Assuming they have Manny in left, Vic in center, and Burrell in right.

i dont think youll have to worry about what happens if they get manny. beacuse they have no chance of getting him or wanting to get him.

No Manny.

Horrible attitude. Phils would end up finishing 3rd or 4th in the East if they pick him up, simply due to his destructive nature.

they have a better chance of rollins getting traded than ryan howard. i actually kind of dont think its a good idea to trade someone who has 94 rbis and 30 hr if youre in the middle of a playoff race. taht would be, yknow, retarded. offseasons are different. but right now thats a stupid ass idea.

i would not hesitate to get rollins out of here and i think they actually are trying to trade rollins in secret. just like thejays are trying to trade halladay in secret.

Does the midget in the clubhouse come along with Manny?

down goes eaton… got sent down this morning, and hopefully, he will never return. I’d rather see one of you dudes eat up some innings.

Lets have a moment of silence for Eaton.

that does sound funny when you take a step abck though…secret trades

If the Phills are “secretly” trying to trade Rollins and the Jays are “secretly” trying to move Halladay … wouldn’t it be great to let a big secret out of the bag and trade them straight up. I would love Halladay in the Phils rotation at the top with Hamels. No more worries about matching up in the playoffs. They would be the best 1-2 in baseball (better than Sabathia and Sheets IMO).

Gillick needs to get up off his ass and make a move. NOW!!

or the mets get a good player that hurts us for nothing and gillick gets caught blindsided by it AS USUAL. that has happened like 30 times since hes been here.

He got lidge from ed wade. that doesnt count. yes, it was a great move, but its not hard to take advantage of ed wade.

hes made a few nice moves, which means hes better than ed wade. but hes still a mediocre GM at best when you look at his transaction record here.

He was the GM when the team won the NL EAST last year… end of story..BOOM.