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wasn’t there rumors that we were going to give up Vic for this guy in the off season? no way, i pass on this guy, not sure he really improves our situation.

Ill take it if hes really really cheap. it looks like theyre scurred off burnett.

You need to add depth tahts all. if they werent going to get sabathia then you need to add depth. thats the only thing left now. one more of their starters will need a break or replacement or somehting you need to add to the mix there.

hey, theyre NOT going to score 7-8 runs pergame against lefitimate starting pitching. its not going to happen ok. thats why THEY need pitching.

I think the situation with Burnett is pretty clear, his numbers are not consistent and outside of the obvious injury concern his contract situation is too unpredictable, so we’ll take him but will not give more than a compensatory package and not the one Toronto coverts. Wouldn’t rule out a deal for Bedard just yet although I do question what adding another rotation filler will do past fan the flames and result in us eating Eaton’s salary bringing our wasted salary up to $30m in 3 years of money spent that doesn’t end up on the diamond (Garcia, trading Helms and eating Eaton’s salary).

Gillick has to be aggressive here, the options are limited and the way the deal goes down and the atmosphere it creates will be just as important as the incoming player. The message coming from the FO has to be this is the guy that will take your spot on the roster not here’s the guy who’s going to pick up the slack for you.

Yes, they lost the chance to win the National League when they failed to get Rich harden. what did we say like the whole firs thalf? no excuses anymore. they failed to act, now its more excuses again.

Rental players are not as bad as they sound, the deal can work in your favour in the next draft. Burnett is idea if he does opt out of his contract and we can acquire him for a smaller package, giving up a high potential but not elite prospect and a couple of long shots for a guy who’ll give you a short-term boost and net two high picks in the coming draft is just good work by a front office when they can get a deal like that done.

By all means give Mazone a shot but lets get Carrasco ready to win his job in the rotation in ST. Savery and Outman would make nice additions to the pen before being transitioned into starters if needed, Outman’s already being transitioned into a reliever. We do need a bonifide number 2 because the Moyer/Kendrick duo is great at the back of the rotation frustrating the opponents but there has to be something concrete in between and unfortunately were not in a position we can continue to experiment.

Don’t trade for this guy we already have pitchers like him in Myers and Eaton he’s no improvement…Just trade for Burnett or Bedard already fucking cheap ass organization.

should read, “and get a bat to replace taguchi plus wait till the offseason to get the #2 we need.”

Benson is a gamble but I’d be in favor of getting Garcia.

As much as you guys dont like the idea of getting Blanton, he’s one of our only options left. We’ve begged for a starter but afterall, beggers cant be chosers.

KRIS BENSON ISNT GOING TO HELP US AT ALL, DAMNIT!

phils should look at aquiring paul maholm from pittsburgh

well, at least hes under contract next year too.

Put Myers and Happ in the rotation and place Eaton in the pen for long relief/mop up. Go get another bat and release So (maybe they can get a crate of tongue depressors or a box of sunflower seeds for the dugout for him). Roll the dice that Myers can figure it out and Happ is ready to make this jump perminently. He has looked fairly sharp in his 2 starts and not overwhelmed by the situation thus far. The Phils are going to have to outscore people and pray the starters can give them 6 innings every night and keep them in the game. When they were hot at the end of June and built their lead in the division it was that formula at work.

Blanton is OK, but not worth trading top prospects for..it would just be adding another arm .. and if we want to do that, lets add local guys

I know some guys on my college team that could throw about 85 mph…

I saw this coming in the beginning of the season, but i thought blanton would be more valued and cost more because HE WOULD HAVE, YKNOW, A GOOD SEASON! but he isnt.

hes better than adam eaton and he can get you through 7 innings. in that way hes more effective than jamie moyer. not in terms of ERA and runs though.

the other pitches arent as effective as those two. the slider doesnt move a lot and the curveball isnt accurate. but at least the sinker/changeup combo is down pat.

Geoff… I can throw a Nixon Era fastball, it is very tricky to hit but eventaully will get caught. Therefore I am an improvement over eaton.

Also you realize Swindle can throw a Dwight D. Eisenhauer curve?

I throw a Bill Clinton change-up.

Did I foget Lidge there as well, OK dump Eaton to the minors.

Phillies rotation is screwed. Blanton? Seriously? better off signing Freddy Garcia

What’s Terry Mulholland doing nowadays?….maybe we sign him….tell him that we’d rather have him walk guys than give up a homerun…then just pick them off of first everytime….it’s a huge upgrade over eaton

If another person starts with this RELEASE CARLOS RUIZ crap…

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20080711_Phillies_Notes__Ruiz_s_catching_job_safe_despite_struggles_at_plate.html

The highlights of this are:

Charlie Manuel is aware that Carlos Ruiz has been in a terrible slump for almost two months.
But the Phillies’ manager also knows he likes Ruiz’s defense and his ability to handle the pitching staff. He also knows that if people are screaming about the impact the No. 8 hitter is having on the Phils’ offense, it probably means the first seven guys in the lineup aren’t doing as much as they should.

and

“It’s awfully hard to switch out a catcher midyear,” assistant general manager Mike Arbuckle said yesterday before the Phillies’ 4-1 win over St. Louis at Citizens Bank Park. “He’s a catcher who knows our staff. They like him. They’re comfortable. He’s catching and throwing well.”

In fact, Ruiz has a 3.56 catcher’s ERA – the best catcher’s ERA in the National League.

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Geoff, who caught Hamels Sunday? Not for nothing, but that wasn’t Hamels best outing.

Gillicks trade history is up on MLBTR….interesting