Comments on: Gamenight: Marlins (59-53) At Phillies (61-50) http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Fri, 25 May 2012 09:59:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Don Mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25097 Don M Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:53:01 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25097 This entire organization sucks... I want to know who the F is responsible for putting together a bunch of winning seasons in a row!!! And then I say fire those people immediately, because the don't know what they are doing !!! This entire organization sucks… I want to know who the F is responsible for putting together a bunch of winning seasons in a row!!! And then I say fire those people immediately, because the don’t know what they are doing !!!

]]> By: Brian Michaelhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25080 Brian Michael Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:03:00 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25080 I couldn't give the Jeltzie to Happ, at risk of further shattering his confidence...Howard had a K in a big situation, not to mention a double-play and an error. I couldn’t give the Jeltzie to Happ, at risk of further shattering his confidence…

Howard had a K in a big situation, not to mention a double-play and an error.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25078 Geoff Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:27:51 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25078 right on. it takes about, 10-20 people to put 1 player on the field at the major league level. those people can have a great influence on how those players perform, and in this organization, about half of those people are incompetent, arrogant, or arent committed to win. when you have all that negative energy around the players, they can tell what these people are all about and that has an impact on some players, espeically in crunchtime. right on. it takes about, 10-20 people to put 1 player on the field at the major league level. those people can have a great influence on how those players perform, and in this organization, about half of those people are incompetent, arrogant, or arent committed to win. when you have all that negative energy around the players, they can tell what these people are all about and that has an impact on some players, espeically in crunchtime.

]]> By: OZhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25077 OZ Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:26:48 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25077 JA Happ - what could have been..... JA Happ – what could have been…..

]]> By: Mike T.http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25076 Mike T. Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:23:06 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25076 exactly geoff. that's certainly a part of the equation when i say, "the phillies are not a good team right now." it's not just the way they're playing at the moment, it's many things. clubhouse personalities, GM approach, GM attitude, owners role, scouting, farm scouting, etc. on paper, this team is good - but take a closer look. the phillies you see on tv is only a tiny fraction of the answer to their non-success. exactly geoff. that’s certainly a part of the equation when i say, “the phillies are not a good team right now.” it’s not just the way they’re playing at the moment, it’s many things. clubhouse personalities, GM approach, GM attitude, owners role, scouting, farm scouting, etc. on paper, this team is good – but take a closer look. the phillies you see on tv is only a tiny fraction of the answer to their non-success.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25075 Geoff Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:07:13 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25075 the guy went out there and bullshitted his way out of the questions he was asked. are you worried about cole hamels? no, of course not.what? cole hamels is one of the most overused pitchers in mlb.http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=204015he ranks 8th in mlb in pitcher abuse points. the guys ahead of him are all guys that are beasts (sabathia) or guys that are probably going to blow out their arm. you cant abuse young pitchers like that. you have to manage them and let them gradually increase their innings over 3-4 years when theyll be fully matured and able to become beasts and log 220 innings by age 27-28. instead, the way theyre handling him, hamels will need TJ surgery in 2 years unless they sstart handling him properly.but thye mishandled gavin floyd and theyre mishandling ha happ now too so this is no surprise. the guy went out there and bullshitted his way out of the questions he was asked. are you worried about cole hamels? no, of course not.

what? cole hamels is one of the most overused pitchers in mlb.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=204015

he ranks 8th in mlb in pitcher abuse points. the guys ahead of him are all guys that are beasts (sabathia) or guys that are probably going to blow out their arm. you cant abuse young pitchers like that. you have to manage them and let them gradually increase their innings over 3-4 years when theyll be fully matured and able to become beasts and log 220 innings by age 27-28. instead, the way theyre handling him, hamels will need TJ surgery in 2 years unless they sstart handling him properly.

but thye mishandled gavin floyd and theyre mishandling ha happ now too so this is no surprise.

]]> By: Greg V.http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25074 Greg V. Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:02:24 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25074 And Howard gets the Jeltz because his hit was meaningless as was his walk and his other at bats, I mean strike outs, were ugly as hell. Not to mention his horrendous fielding. And Howard gets the Jeltz because his hit was meaningless as was his walk and his other at bats, I mean strike outs, were ugly as hell. Not to mention his horrendous fielding.

]]> By: Greg V.http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25073 Greg V. Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:01:12 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25073 When I heard Arbuckle on Angelo this morning I almost threw my clock radio across the room! The man is clueless! When I heard Arbuckle on Angelo this morning I almost threw my clock radio across the room! The man is clueless!

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25072 Phil Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:59:16 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25072 Why would Howard get the Jeltz award? He actually got a hit unlike the rest of the team that didn't. Why would Howard get the Jeltz award? He actually got a hit unlike the rest of the team that didn’t.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25071 Geoff Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:55:20 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25071 Thats correct, fred. They are forcing him to use happ as a reliever because of their insane search for a left-handed reliever. thye auditioned happ and walrond last night, IN AUGUST, IN THE MIDDLE OF A DIVISIONAL GAME, and mike arbuckle was on there this morning talking about how theyre still looking for one.this is madness with gillick. theyre actually losing it. they have one right in front of their faces and they cant see it. romero was primarily the loogy last year and he was awesome in that role. you need a SETUPMAN, which is what theyve always needed since gordon sputtered. its so simple and they cant grasp it. its unbelievable. first it was the starting pitching, now its this. its like the eagles with the wide recievers. mental midgetry at its finest. Thats correct, fred. They are forcing him to use happ as a reliever because of their insane search for a left-handed reliever. thye auditioned happ and walrond last night, IN AUGUST, IN THE MIDDLE OF A DIVISIONAL GAME, and mike arbuckle was on there this morning talking about how theyre still looking for one.

this is madness with gillick. theyre actually losing it. they have one right in front of their faces and they cant see it. romero was primarily the loogy last year and he was awesome in that role. you need a SETUPMAN, which is what theyve always needed since gordon sputtered. its so simple and they cant grasp it. its unbelievable. first it was the starting pitching, now its this. its like the eagles with the wide recievers. mental midgetry at its finest.

]]> By: jeffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25056 jeff Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:50:28 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25056 late night late night

]]> By: Markhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25055 Mark Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:45:36 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25055 Moyer had control problems but still kept the Phils in the game. What a shame that the offense slept through another game. Walrond and Happ were horrible, but at least maybe they gave J.C. and Durbin the night off. That may pay off down the road. Moyer had control problems but still kept the Phils in the game. What a shame that the offense slept through another game. Walrond and Happ were horrible, but at least maybe they gave J.C. and Durbin the night off. That may pay off down the road.

]]> By: ryanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25053 ryan Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:49:01 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25053 don't think howard deserves the jeltz award tonight. haven't looked at the box score but i think some other guys were more deserving don’t think howard deserves the jeltz award tonight. haven’t looked at the box score but i think some other guys were more deserving

]]> By: ctihttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25045 cti Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:44:13 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25045 I think JA HApp's confidence will be fine. He has only thrown 41 pitches (2 + innings) in the past 2 weeks. They just need to use him more so he can get his location back. I think JA HApp’s confidence will be fine. He has only thrown 41 pitches (2 + innings) in the past 2 weeks. They just need to use him more so he can get his location back.

]]> By: Jayhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25044 Jay Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:36:29 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25044 Well that is what we get when they let a young pitcher just sit around with his thumb up his ass waiting to get in a game. Good job Phils Well that is what we get when they let a young pitcher just sit around with his thumb up his ass waiting to get in a game. Good job Phils

]]> By: Fredhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25043 Fred Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:34:45 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25043 Don't worry, Gillick's working a blockbuster waiver wire deal for a #4 starter. Don’t worry, Gillick’s working a blockbuster waiver wire deal for a #4 starter.

]]> By: R.Machttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25042 R.Mac Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:33:45 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25042 everybody on the team needs to have some tatis drink before bed....tomorrow is another day fellas....go phils everybody on the team needs to have some tatis drink before bed….tomorrow is another day fellas….go phils

]]> By: Fredhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25041 Fred Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:33:31 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25041 I believe the Happ situation is out of Charlie's hands. Someone on high is pulling the strings. I believe the Happ situation is out of Charlie’s hands. Someone on high is pulling the strings.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25040 Geoff Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:31:51 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25040 and you have to rely on callups and waiver-trash to fix it now, ahahahahaha and you have to rely on callups and waiver-trash to fix it now, ahahahahaha

]]> By: AC in NJhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/comment-page-4/#comment-25039 AC in NJ Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:31:12 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/gamenight-marlins-59-53-at-phillies-61-50/#comment-25039 mercifully over. the sun will come out tomorrow. mercifully over. the sun will come out tomorrow.

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