Gamenight: Mets (73-60) At Phillies (73-59)
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Wed, August 27, 2008 06:14 PM | Comments: 271
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Headline: Expect anything, everything
The Major Players: Kyle Kendrick, Johan Santana, Pat Burrell, Pedro Feliz
The Venue: Citizens Bank Park, Philadelphia
The Number: 0.5 games ahead
Yesterday the Phillies and Mets played — hyperbole necessary — the best game of the 2008 baseball season, and then some. The Phils won 8-7 in 13 innings, 13 gutwrenching innings of great baseball. Chris Coste delievered the winning RBI, a fly ball single into deep center field that scored Shane Victorino and sent Philadelphia into a frenzy not heard since Sept. 30, 2007.
Carpenter’s School: Because the bullpen was so taxed yesterday, the Phillies brought up Andrew Carpenter from A+ Clearwater. He could pitch an inning or two, or three. It’s best that Kyle Kendrick goes deep into this one.
Pick Up Bat, Pat: Pat Burrell is a key player tonight because as the Phils main right-handed hitting threat, he has to come through against New York ace Johan Santana. Burrell, of course, went 0-for-7 last night, maybe the worst performance of his career.
Jars Of Clay: As if there wasn’t more to write about last night, Clay Condrey had his first hit since 2003 with a double in the fourth inning. It was the first extra-base hit of his career and the second run scored of his career. His OPS is at a very nice 1.000.
Don’t Mess With The Johan: In three starts against the Phillies this season, Johan Santana is is 1-0 with a 2.74 ERA and 20 K. With at least a five-inning performance tonight, Santana would’ve pitched against the Phils twice as much as any other team he’s faced this season.
Phillies: Kyle Kendrick (11-7) 4.87 ERA
Mets: Johan Santana (12-7) 2.64 ERA
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EST
Weather: 79, partly cloudy
Lineup: Rollins/Utley/Burrell/Howard/Victorino/Werth/Feliz/Coste/Kendrick
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Your gamenight beer: Hopefully you enjoyed last night’s beer slow, because I’m not pitcking up your hospital bill. Tonight we stay slow with Cadillac Mountain Stout from Bar Harbor in Maine. Eat beef brisket with this and sit back, watch the fun unfold.
Go Phillies!
Posts: 0 PHUCK PHILLY
OK IM GONNA BE CIVIL NOW, JOHN, IS IT REALLY A RULE YOU CANT PITCH AFTER 20+ PITCHES? IM NOT TRYING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS, JUST WONDERING
Posted: 10:01 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 TJ
That was a great play by Wright.
Posted: 10:01 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 RiVLez
If the Mets hold on to win this, this has been the biggest waste of a series ever.
Posted: 10:02 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 PHUCK PHILLY
IM NOT SAYING I HATE YOU EXACTLY, I HATE PHILS FANS AFTER LAST YEAR ALL THE SHIT THEY TALKED, NOT ON THIS BLOG , BUT IN GENERAL
Posted: 10:02 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 SJ Mike
Gotta hand it David Wright, he just made up for his play last night when he fell on his butt….twice.
Posted: 10:02 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 Phils Phan
Guys:
You realize that after tonight’s L (Mets’ W), the Mets are guaranteed to win the World Series. I read it on MetsBlog.
It’s going to be a fun remainder of the season, assuming the Fightins don’t crap the bed in Chicago.
Posted: 10:02 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 PHUCK PHILLY
P.S. IM NOT EVEN FROM NY
Posted: 10:03 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 RiVLez
PHUCK PHILLY: If you care so much maybe you need to go get a life. I’m a HUGE Mets fan but you know what the Mets fuckin stunk at the end of the year and the Phillies put them out of their misery.
Posted: 10:03 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 That Guy
I’ll have to give it to the Muts Trolls. After a taxing 24 hours of posting on here and searching ebay for “Taz” decals and floormats for their Camaro, you’d think they would be spent. But alas, they are a resilient group, powered by Doc Gooden’s leftover crack and Keith Hernandez’ leftover Amoxicillin from his latest Syphilis infection
Posted: 10:04 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm
We’re an open forum, so we don’t ban, but we take care of people when they get out of hand. If this guy wants to press the issue, we’ll do what we have to. Makes no sense to do it, if I’m him, of course.
Switching gears, I loathe listening to these Mets announcers. Especially that high-pitched “outta here” call.
Posted: 10:04 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 TJ
RivLez – There isnt much influence a 2 game series can have unless someone sweeps but the Mets took a toll on our bullpen with a big series coming up.
Posted: 10:04 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 Phils Phan
PHUCK PHILLY:
Did you see any of the crowd shots during this game–i.e., lone Mets fans standing in an all Phillies row, etc., being assholes?
Phillies fans are not shit talkers. Phillies AND Mets fans are shit talkers.
But, both also whine when the other does it. It’s annoying.
Posted: 10:04 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 RiVLez
Tim: I actually think the Mets announcers are the best in baseball IMO. Not just because I am a Mets fan. If you think they are bad, listen to YES. I would rather kill myself than listen to that crappy boring broadcast.
Posted: 10:05 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 PHUCK PHILLY
OK IM GETTING TIRED OF THIS ARGUING, WITH ALL HONESTY, IT WILL BE A GOOD RACE
Posted: 10:05 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 That Guy
“I’m not even from NY”…….No Shit
Posted: 10:06 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm
To answer the question PP: Relievers aren’t necessarily unavailable after one 20+ pitch outing. However, managers have to make pitchers unavailable for at least a game after a certain amount of outings or pitches thrown consecutively.
Posted: 10:06 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 SJ Mike
So if they don’t pull this through, Lidge will be charged his first loss of the season then.
Posted: 10:06 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 TJ
Haha wow, Charlie really screwed this one up. Carpenter in for the ninth now?
Posted: 10:06 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 Joshua
TIM, the mets anouncers are one of the best in baseball. compare them to YES, ESPN, FOX and any clip you hear on baseball tonight.. Darling won an emmy as a matter of fact.
Posted: 10:07 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 PHUCK PHILLY
so each manager has to automatically announce if the pitcher is unavailable before a game? sorry i just dont understand lol
Posted: 10:07 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm
You get some nice nuggets of analysis from the SNY crew, but just watching this season, there is a lack of research from Hernandez and Darling, and just from a personal standpoint, there seems to be a bit too much hyperbole in calls.
I’d compare them evenly with the Phillies crew, which can be a little too stodgy and happy-go-lucky.
Posted: 10:07 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 558 Brian Michael
We’re an open forum, but I will delete your comments if they are obscenity-laced, so don’t waste your time.
Posted: 10:08 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 PHUCK PHILLY
sj mike- beltran scored the go ahead run, and he faced seanez, so seanez would get the loss if im right
Posted: 10:08 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 RiVLez
I haven’t ever heard the Phillies guys. It would be interesting. But seriously YES has got to be the worst. If I was a Yankee fan, I would have to stop being one because I can not listen to that terrible crap they call commentating.
Posted: 10:09 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 SJ Mike
When it comes to announcers, I can’t stand Gary Matthews, who does color commentary like Captain Obvious. “The way you win games is you score more runs then the other team!”
Kalas is more or less a staple. Wheeler and Mccarthy are good, but they are so smart that sometimes their constant tidbits of information can be a little much.
Posted: 10:10 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 TJ
All fast balls from this kid.
Looks like his command can use some more work.
Posted: 10:11 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 558 Brian Michael
Who are you guys kidding? Ron Darling has the worst voice in broadcast, and Keith is a misogynist. I would hardly call them the best in baseball – 2 ballplayers cannot complete broadcast booth.
Posted: 10:11 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 ryan
nobody is better than harry kalas. ever. end of story. hate to bring up harsh memories but one of harry’s greatest calls ever was two years ago in the astros series when harry said “they’re all unearned but who cares”. even in the downest of moments that line made me laugh out loud. i dread the day harry kalas is no longer broadcasting phillies games. it will never be the same without him.
Posted: 10:12 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm
I’m not sure how it’s presented, but it may be via the lineup card. Managers will have to indicate to umpires which players are ineligible.
I don’t know if ineligibility is enforced by MLB (I looked but no dice), but it’s there to protect pitchers (mainly) from overuse.
Posted: 10:12 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
wheeler is a dufus. t-man and the sarge have great chemistry
Posted: 10:12 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 James Beale
It’s not a league rule, but managers will get together with their pitching coaches and determine who they have available to pitch every night. So, for example, if this were the last game of the season it would be plausible that even starters might be put out in the pen.
Charlie is usually open about telling press who is and is not available before the games. That happened tonight – he listed Condrey, Madson, and Romero.
Posted: 10:12 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 SJ Mike
Ryan, Harry has been at it my whole life (and most of ours), so yeah, it will be weird not hearing his “Outta here” call. When he was out for that week and a half with the eye surgery, the broadcasts did feel a little incomplete.
Posted: 10:13 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 PHUCK PHILLY
oh i get it now, i was confused when someone called it a “league rule” though
Posted: 10:14 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 Joshua
how is ron the worst voice? keith is NOT a misogynist, he stated a rule he “thought” the padres were breaking. and there is a third voice, gary cohen. he’s been around since 1989.
Posted: 10:14 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
it looks like delgado has been using keith hernandez’s just for men facial hair variety. he had a grey goatee last time. real grey.
Posted: 10:15 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 RiVLez
Brian I definitely don’t think so. I really enjoy listening to Gary, Ron and Keith. I think they make up a good combo.
Posted: 10:15 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 James Beale
Ineligibility isn’t enforced by MLB, nor is it official (in the lineup card or otherwise).
Technically Charlie is allowed to put anyone on the 25 man anywhere on the field, and if he wanted to pitch Romero today technically no one could stop him.
However; informally, that isn’t how it works.
Posted: 10:15 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 SJ Mike
I only hear the SNY crew when I’m up at my girlfriend’s in North Jersey, and the only time I watch up there is when the Phils are playing. I haven’t heard them enough to really comment on them.
Posted: 10:16 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 TJ
The availability thing is more of a manager’s preference.
Average inning for Carpenter. Hope he can build off it.
Posted: 10:16 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 558 Brian Michael
Well, each is entitled to his own preference for broadcasting. The only way to tell if an announcer has transcended his team is to check the Hall of Fame for Frick Award winners.
Posted: 10:20 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
this series looks like a wash. oh well. now its time to see who can make it through the stretch run.
Posted: 10:20 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 SJ Mike
Since the Mets have off tomorrow night, the Phils have the chance then to just even it up all together. Which would then make this whole division race even juicier.
Posted: 10:21 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 558 Brian Michael
Phillies win > Mets win
Phillies win < Mets win
Phillies win = Mets win
what do you think?
Posted: 10:22 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 RiVLez
Now we can declare this series a waste of time!
Posted: 10:23 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
both teams realy showed that niether are good enough to run away with this.
Posted: 10:23 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 SJ Mike
I’d say equal. We’re back exactly where we left off. We both lost in the same fashion each night.
Posted: 10:23 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 Jamie
Knew this would happen (series split). The real race is yet to come over the last month.
Posted: 10:24 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 Joshua
it’s like each game was exactly the same, mets lose casue they stopped scoring after the 4th. phillies lose cause tehy stopped scoring after the 4th.
Posted: 10:24 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 RiVLez
This is coming down to the end. I know it. It’s going to be an exciting September.
Posted: 10:25 PM on August 27, 2008
Posts: 0 fan
Phillies > Mets
Phillies Mets
Phillies > Mets
Phillies Mets
Phillies Mets
Phillies 5
Mets 10
you tell me who wins?
Phillies
Posted: 10:28 PM on August 27, 2008