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Gamenight: Phillies (73-60) At Cubs (83-50)

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Thu, August 28, 2008 06:00 PM | Comments: 287
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Headline: The need for a split starts tonight
The Major Players: Cole Hamels, Chase Utley, Aramis Ramirez, Fabio Castro
The Venue: Wrigley Field, Chicago
The Number: 0.5 games behind (Mets)

The Phillies split with the Mets, so we’re back at square one. Of course. Tonight a huge four-game set with the Cubs begins. The Cubs are the best team in the National League, by record, and should prove to be an incredibly hard test for the Phightins. The Phils took two from the Cubs back in April at Citizens Bank Park.

Curious Cub: Ryan Dempster is a crazy case. Between 1998 and 2003 he started, and had a 3.66 ERA in 2000. Other than that season, he has been pretty horrible as a starter. But this year? A 2.85 ERA.

Demp Yard: A few Phillies have hit Dempster well. Jimmy Rollins is .444 in nine at bats and Eric Bruntlett has a home run in two bats against Dempster.

Cole Snap: Cole Hamels has pitched twice in Wrigley Field. His numbers: 10 IP, 5.43 ERA.

Phillies: Cole Hamels (11-8) 3.20 ERA
Cubs: Ryan Dempster (15-5) 2.85 ERA

Gametime: 8:05 p.m. EST
Weather: 76, cloudy
Lineup:

MLB TV
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Your gamenight beer: My good friend and beer God recommended to me Creme Brulee Stout from the Southern Tier company. He said it wipes out dessert for a whole week, and goes best after chicken and fries. Clearly a dessert drink, it’s made for slow sipping, so enjoy it if you can tonight with Cole on the hill.

Go Phillies!

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  • Posts: 0 ball 4

    i agree but the phillies are going to have play the matchup game if the mets play the brew crew and we play the braves we have to win the series or else the gap gets to big

     
  • Posts: 0 Kyle

    Other than Lidge, the bullpen is brutal. And while I don’t like Manual, what can you do if pitchers (Durbin, Madson, etc…) continue to shit the bed? And then every fifth start Kendrick goes 3 to 5 innings? It’s not like he can use Lidge for two every night.

    Happ should be pitching right now, or very soon, in Kendrick’s spot. Use Romero exclusively in the 8th inning. I don’t give a flying fuck if right-handed hitters are coming up. That is all.

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    And don’t discount Florida against the Mets this weekend. Florida has a chance to get right back into the race with a good series. You think they’re going to lay down?

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    then we have to match them stride for stride to keep up

     
  • Posts: 0 Georgie

    Mitch Williams just said there’s no way he would have taken Hamels out of the game at that point.

     
  • Posts: 0 ball 4

    kk is not the answer and we learned that this season he is a nice guy and all but he isnt a starter in this leauge

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    trade jimmy rollins and ryan howard

     
  • Posts: 0 Christian

    Yeah that’s right – throw Happ into the september pennant race fire. No thanks. Kendrick might be a mediocre pitcher, but at least he has been there before.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    woops, sorry about that. i liek kendrick but he needs to be remade in AAA next season and come back the following season….

     
  • Posts: 0 ball 4

    i say go 4 man roatation

     
  • Posts: 0 Christian

    SJ Mike – I don’t think Florida is going to lay down, I just don’t think they are that good. And the Mets have handled them this year. Not as bad as they handled us, but close.

     
  • Posts: 0 Kyle

    If you mean going 2.2 innings in game 2 of last years NLDS, Christian, yes, Kyle Kendrick has “been there.”

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    kendrick will be ok for the stretch next year. but in the offseason ne needs to learn TWO new pitches and incease his arm strength and velocity. hell be a great 5th man if he can do that. im pulling for him, i like his style but he needs a little work

     
  • Posts: 0 LetsGoMets!

    what happened to Geoff?

    Is it depressing, living in a city that simply doesn’t win championships, at any level?

     
  • Posts: 0 AC in NJ

    i just watched a slow motion replay of the grand slam…WHAT A HORRIBLE PITCH BY DURBIN – anyone on the cubs would have hit that out. anyone on the hawaiian little league champs would have hit that out.

     
  • Posts: 0 Kyle

    Tonight was just an awful loss. I am not sure how to describe it other than this: good teams do NOT lose a game with their ace on the mound with a 4-1 lead with six outs left. They simply don’t. I don’t care if Hamels or not. If you are a major leaguer, you should be able to get 3 outs without giving up 3 runs.

     
  • Posts: 0 AC in NJ

    another troll…LetsGoMets! go fuck yourself

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    um, dude. the pitchers arent CONDITIONED to go to a 4 man unit. if they were conditioned, like they were in the old days id be all for it, but you need 4 BIGTIME studs to do that nowadays. its about TRAINING AND CONDITIONING. preparation and so forth. you have to be CONDITIONED to throw more innings but pitchers now are conditioned to throw less innings.

     
  • Posts: 0 Christian

    Point taken, Kyle. It’s a tough situation. Kendrick basically blows, but at times he has been reliable. Putting happ in there is a risk. At least with Kendrick you know what you’re in for.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    robin roberts threw 13 straight CG’s. do you realize how much of a beast he was? NOONE can do that now. maybe CC or webb. maybe…

     
  • Posts: 0 Kyle

    No, LetsGoMets!, it is depressing when you are 35 years old and attach your self-confidence to a team of players who have nothing to do with New York.

     
  • Posts: 0 Kyle

    Again, if you like knowing what youre in for means getting five innings of work whereby every inning there are runners on base. No thanks.

     
  • Posts: 0 Rob

    Like Shane Victorino.

     
  • Posts: 0 Grrrumpy Miner

    As a Mets fan,i’m worring about this weekend vs the Marlins and i’ll worry about the Brewers come Monday.You guys should do the same vs Da Cubs.Worry about the Brewers and Mets when you face them instead of wallowing on what might happen down the road.Live the moment and stop worrying.

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    It’s just night and day with this team. Regardless of outcome, at least we all knew going in that this was going to be a close fight until the end for the division. It’s just heartbreaking knowing that there are games like tonight scattered throughout the season that could have changed that theory that has remained consistent for most of the season.

     
  • Posts: 0 J-Man

    Yea Kendrick needs to spend some more time in the Minors…He needs to develope a pitch so he can strikeout batters because he stuggles to strikeout batters.

     
  • Posts: 0 AC in NJ

    does anyone know what Hamels career high and season high in game pitch count is? i think with 108 pitches, he could have at least started the 8th and tried to get the first out…c’mon, Santana went 121 pitches game before last.

    i’m really interested in knowing hamels career best number

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    he needs to show improvement, kendrick, he cant stand still otherwise carlos carrasco or JA happ will supplant him

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    If I recall, the graphic in the 7th inning said something like 125 total for a career high for Hamels.

     
  • Posts: 0 J-Man

    AC in NJ:I seen Hamels throw 120 pitches in a CG once…I dunno if thats his career high,but i’m sure it’s close.

     
  • Posts: 0 Phil Thadelphia

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

     
  • Posts: 0 Georgie

    yeah, that’s right SJ Mike, and I think his avg is low 100′s.

     
  • Posts: 0 Kyle

    Look the point remains: if the bullpen can’t get 3 outs, YOURE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

     
  • Posts: 0 AC in NJ

    thanks SJMike. so do you agree that manual fucked it up here? if the bullpen is as gassed as it appears, i can’t for the life of me see why he didn’t let Hamels at least start the 8th. he still had 10 pitches to go before 118, and it’s likely he could have gotten at least one out in that number of pitches. (and if he didn’t, then make the change then).

     
  • Posts: 0 JeffR

    Yeah, what the hell even was that pitch by Durbin? It looked slower and straighter than a batting practice pitch in a home run derby contest. You could tell it was going to be hammered before it even got to the plate.

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    Bullpen is just incredibly taxed after the past week, especially those Mets games. That leads to implosions like this.

     
  • Posts: 0 Kyle

    There is 30 (?) games left. You have to rely on your bullpen the rest of the way. If this is game 7 in the WS, it’s one thing, but this is game 130-something.

    This is on the bullpen. They shat the bed against the Mets, the dodgers, the Nationals and now the Cubs. There are a string of shitty appearances building and it is not a good sign.

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    AC in NJ, Manuel did bring in the wrong pitcher there, no doubt.

    I would have brought Romero in there or Durbin to start the inning. Madson has been a 6th/7th inning guy all year and should have stayed that way.

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    Though Hamels should’ve pitched the 8th inning and then leave if gotten into trouble….

     
  • Posts: 0 Kyle

    And having to pick up the pieces after the number of Kendrick 3-5 inning starts is starting to take its toll.

     
  • Posts: 0 Georgie

    so when will the bullpen become untaxed?

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    They’ll be untaxed when Ryan Madson stops throwing right down the middle in the 8th inning where he doesn’t belong.

     
  • Posts: 0 Kyle

    Kyle Kendrick: 145 innings – 175 (!!!) hits, 52 (!!!) walks. That is a whopping 227 baserunners in 145 innings! He is the nl version of Livan Hernandez!

     
  • Posts: 0 AC in NJ

    Kyle – i agree in theory, but i don’t think you can characterize this as just “game 130-something”. this isn’t a nationals or braves game, although we all expect wins in those. when you’re up 4-1 on possibly the best team in baseball at their home, you’ve gotta win that. it would have been a terrific confidence booster for these guys and tied them back up in 1st after last nights debacle. Instead, we have a double dose of debacle, and now Phils gotta take 2 of 3 to get the needed split here!

    i’m praying that the Marlins take 2 of 3 from the mets, but I don’t see it. and if the mets take 2 of 3, but the phils only get 1 of the next 3, they are 2 full games back at the end of it. Not the way to start September.

     
  • Posts: 0 AC in NJ

    SJMike hits it on the head. Madson NEVER belongs in the game in the 8th.

    And Durbin – man, that pitch was just brutal awful.

     
  • Posts: 0 Mike B.

    Pat The Bat Burrell; 0 for 5 with five runners left on base and no offense from Pedro Feliz either. Burrell should have been rested tonight and Dobbs should have been given a start in left field with a righty starting for the Cubs. Burrell could have pinch hit if needed.

     
  • Posts: 0 Tyler

    Mike B., unless it isn’t as bad as A-Rod today. He left 11 runners on base!

    Tough loss for you guys, Aramis really killed that ball.

    1 game lead!

    Lets Go Mets!

    (Retarded/useless comment from AC in NJ not needed)

     
  • Posts: 0 Kyle

    I guess we are agreeing to disagree in part. If you don’t have a pitcher, I will say it again, who can get 3 outs without giving up 3 runs – a late inning reliever no less – you don’t have a good team. And the phils HAVE NO 8TH INNING PITCHER.

    Now, the Cubs are certainly favored in the remaining 3 games. And who cares if the Phils are two back at weekends end, they need worry about winning tomorrow.

     
  • Posts: 0 Kyle

    Tyler – the Yankees WON the game. Isn’t THAT what matters?

     
  • Posts: 0 AC in NJ

    Tyler – let’s go Marlins!

     
 
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