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Was that sign intended toward this site or just Phillies Nation in general?

not sure tyler..

OK, because the Phillies are playing so poorly right now and are 2 games back behind the Mets, I reviewed our remaining schedule and estimated the result of the remainder of games (with rose-colored glasses?):

VS. Games Wins

Nats 9 7
Dodgers 4 2 ?
Mets 5 3 ?
Cubs 4 2 ?
Fish 6 4
Braves 6 5
Brewers 4 2 ?
38 25

I made alot of assumptions here. This big assumption here is that they split three 4 game series against the Dodgers, Cubs, & Brewers. Will really finish the last 38 games with 25 wins – 13 losses? This would mean we would finish the season 91W-71L. The way our team has been playing, that seems to be unrealistic. OK, how about 21W-17L in the remaining 38 games for a final record of of 87W-75L. Where would this leave us in the NL East? I still predict that the Phillies will win the division. In order to accomplish that, the Phillies have to get their offense firing on all cylinders. Any thoughts?

They have to do better than 9-7 against the nats. it needs to be more like 12-4.

anyways, this offense sucks. cha seung baek is total garbage and they could barely muster 2 runs off of him. terrible. they cant even hit garbage pitching anymore! its gotten WORSE as the year progresses here.

Uh, Geoff, you may want to read that again. He was guessing we’d go 7-2 against the Nats in 9 remaining games. Those estimates look a little high for the Phils to me, and a lot closer for the Mets, so that sucks. We’re only fighting the for division at this point, I don’t see us catching Milwaukee for the wildcard. Hopefully things turn around quickly, and the offense remembers how to hit in September magically.

The wild card will come from the central, no east team has a shot at it. The front office so inadequately handled the hittting situation that the only thing left to do is indeed “hope they somehow magically remember how to hit in september.”Unbelievable. just go and address the problem. If you dont have the prospects to get a casey blake type in here, then admit youre not good enough and go a little bit younger. the truth is, most GMs dont like to rebuild all the way anyway, but if they know theyre not good enough theyll sell off a player for some good prospects to help them get to the top next year. This years selloff candidate: Jimmy Rollins. See ya, jackass.

deserve to lose? wow. we still have a pretty decent shot at the playoffs. look at the rockies of last year. if we could ride a wave like that (starting now) we could turn some heads. does anyone think any NL team has a shot at the angels anyways?

I can’t see the Muts winning 90 games this year.. they have a TERRIBLE bullpen

all im saying is, if were now reduced to relying on some “magical run.” tahts embarrassing and pathetic. they had their magical run last year and it got them just as far as they deserved to go.

Theyre allowed to do that. Theyve won with it twice. When they think theyre ready again theyll boost the payroll to liek 40-something and win another world series. its better than the phillies approach because the phillies have yet to win anything with this approach.

i don’t think a ‘magical run’ is necessary for us to make it into the playoffs. everyone knows our bats are fully capable of coming alive at any point. we are also a very streaky team. i guess i’m sayin that i dont wanna start thinkin about next year already when we are only 2 games out of first in the east… i know that we have been playin like six day old garbage recently but i dont want to give up hope yet

Hamels pitched well last night and didnt give up a home run again making it 3 consectuive starts. Hamels has allowed two or less runs in seven of his last nine starts and 10 of 14.

The Phillies will make the playoffs but it wont come easy and we all know that. What we need to do is get J.A. Happ back in the rotation at the expense of Kendrick. It’s only a matter of time before we score more runs right, right? Lets hope so, because our pitching has been good enough to win us close games. Hamels isnt hurt which is a sigh of relief, what happened to all that speculation? Lidge, perfect still. Knock on wood. I’m still optimistic that the Mets will falter, but they are extremely hot right now. . . . against pretty bad teams so we can do nothing but wait and see. Go Phils.

Some foot notes from ESPN..
“The Phillies are 55-0 when leading after the eighth inning. Philadelphia is one of five big league teams who are undefeated with a lead heading into the ninth inning. … Padres’ first-round draft pick Allan Dykstra took batting practice. Dykstra, who signed his contract on Friday, was a freshman when Hamels was a senior at the same San Diego area high school, although they were not teammates on the varsity team.”

cha seung baek isn’t as bad as you think actually… he’s faced the mets twice and shut them down twice.

The lack of offense has become more than just a concern. It’s downright shocking. The only positive spin I can think of is that they can’t possibly be this bad, right? So assuming they break out offensively, they suddenly become a strong team, with the pitching they’ve been getting. (Hey, I’m reaching at straws, I know.)

Off Topic: I have 2 tickets (Sec. 136) for the Phillies/Mets on Weds, August 27th, 7:05pm. Unfortunately, I have a conflict that night and would love to swap with someone for the night before, Tues, 8/26. Anyone interested e-mail me at robert_tee@yahoo.com. Thx.

But in 15 years the marlins have one twice. the phililes havent won a world series with this “just good enough to sell tickets” approach. the approach of pretenders. so what is there to reassure me that this way of doing things is going to win a championship? theyve been like this for YEARS. always a lot of 30-somethings on the team. hardly ever rebuilding or even “going younger.” always wasting money on veterans, going back to the mid-80s, instead of building around a young core. do they have one now? yeah sorta, the problem is that their young core is pushing 30 and half the rest of the spots are filled by 30 somethings.

so theres never a trend or a theme here other than having an improperly constructed team. they had their magical run and it FAILED in 1993, they had it again last year and it FAILED. and tahts all youre going to get unless the approach changes here.

what the hell have the phillies done thats so great? theyre the worst franchise in baseball. they always have been and they still are. yet we still support it, which makes rollins comments all the more disgraceful.

Geoff I dont know what to tell you but to pick a different team to follow, you obviously not satisfied with the current state of the franchise nor with its past. What do you like about this team? I dont get why you post on here to point out negatives. Are you trying to pry fans away from the Phillies? What are you trying to do? I think we’ve all come to accept that this team is hurting.

i grew up rooting for this team, going to the games, when they were HORRIBLE. 1993 was a faint memory even though i was at some of the playoff games.

thats what being a fan is. you root for the team and support them even if they are the worst franchise in baseball over time. its also why its so frustrating because the ownership/management is so duplicitious and/or incompetent that you actually can legitimately wonder whether or not theyre not failing on purpose to keep people coming enough to milk us out of our money.

See, I think being a fan is trying to point out the positives.. and continually giving yourself reason to hope.. look at the RedSox (before ’04) and the Cubs haven’t won in 100 years..

I brought up the 10-years scenario, cause I’d rather see my team continually play good baseball instead of just be the Champion and then nothing… I enjoy watching the Phillies play, yes its frustrating when they go 2-5 on road trips and stuff… but really, they are getting better, and maybe they won’t win with this current group, but they sure have been exciting the past few seasons, and in my mind they’ll only get better over the next few

” brought up the 10-years scenario, cause I’d rather see my team continually play good baseball instead of just be the Champion and then nothing”

thats the eagles-phillies media spin that youve bought into. thats an absurd statement. what fan doesnt want to see their team win a championship? youre nuts.

Ya, what your basically saying is you’d rather take 10 years with no championship than 10 years with one championship. Whats the difference between the other 9? Meaningless in my point of view. 2001-2006 has just faded into a blur for me anyway. 86-76. I couldn’t tell you the difference between any of the seasons. They aren’t memorable. A championship is memorable.

Maybe they won’t go down in the record books as the greatest teams or seasons in history… but the past few years watching Phillies baseball has been AWESOME..

even the last year at the VET… Thome carrying them and smacking home runs… the late season runs in each of the last 3 years…. its been pretty damn good being a Phillies fan lately (unless you only measure things by the number of Championships)

The one thing I really want them to do is have management before the year say we are “going for it” this year. Whatever it takes, like the cubs have done recently, the yankees and sox do every year. Go an extra 10 million on top of the cap and bring in a stud rental for a year and go for it. Instead of (jenkins, taguchi) signings that simply keep the fan base at bay.

This team hasn’t commited to a time-frame for being a legitmate contendor, they’ve half heartedly made a window through 2011 but not with any authority.

Those teams are better this year because they have a direction and that’s what makes them desperate, their hungry to win and the Phils aren’t

Forget the stud rental the Phils need to get active in international recruitment and the draft. Our needs need to be addressed internally with prospects capable of making the major leagues, hit or miss is not how you draft in the high rounds.

I was born in 1983.. so the fact that they have 10,000 losses doesn’t bother me that much because I didn’t see 90% of them..

in 2006.. the Chicago Cubs has the 7th highest payroll in baseball.. they finished 6th in the NL CENTRAL with a 66-96 record… so there are always exceptions to the rule… and the Yankees have been 1st or 2nd in payroll in each of the last 7 season or so since they last won a World Series..