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All year I’ve been suggesting that its so hard for part-time players to ever get comfortable at the plate, as soon as they get in a groove, they sit for 2-3 games.. If you count him and Werth as one player, the numbers aren’t too bad

142 hits, 562 at bats

.252 Avg
25 Home Runs
72 RBIs
71 Runs Scored
13 Steal, 2 Caught Stealing (+11 Steals)
62 Walks (4 HBP) = .331 On Base Percentage

Obviously, you’d like the batting average to be higher.. but from the guy’s that usually bat 6th in the lineup, that is pretty good production

Jenkins certainly needs to step up, but there’s an obvious problem to giving him more playing time…

Who sits?

Victorino’s pretty much been the Phils’ most consistent hitter recently, so he shouldn’t sit. Burrell has struggled a bit, but responded with 2 crucial HRs in the Padres series, and since he’s the premier RH hitter in the lineup, the Phils can’t afford to sit him. And Jayson Werth seems like one of the few Phils who has provided quality at bats recently — he works the count (leading the Phils in pitches per plate appearance at 4.26) and gets on base, something no one else in this lineup has done recently.

I guess you could sit Victorino and Werth one game each this series to get Jenkins some at bats. Whatever the case, Jenkins plain and simply needs to start producing.

Don M, I would take those numbers from a 6 hole guy any day. I would bet that if Jenkins played more, and dont get me wrong I like Werth alot, he would put up numbers similar to these.

Pete Happy is almost back, hopefully he can give the bottom of the order some stability and much needed power

Good thoughts Tim–My worry with Jenkins is that he is one more free swinger–to go along with a few others that we have–we need grinders–this team as a whole has got to make pitchers work harder–maybe playing time will help Jenkins–who knows–its worth a try

Rowand in Center and Victorino in Right was nice… with them passing on Rowand’s $10 M contract.. they claim they’ll spend that on a Starting Pitcher in the offseason….

Wait and see…if they spend the money, be happy.. IF THEY DON’T… THEN we can hold SELL THE TEAM rallies..

But lets wait and see what they do with the money they’ll have

that might be the biggest reason the phillies still have a chance. the mets bullpen flat out sucks. and they got luis ayala yesterday, who flat out sucks too. hes one of those guys that throws a sinker that doesnt sink, a slider that doesnt slider, and a cutter that doesnt cut.

Instead of “hoping the bats come alive” id prefer them to just assemble a readlly good team, and they didnt really do that.

Basically called out Rollins and Howard, with a reference to Schmidt’s rail on the fans at the Vet. Made sense, pretty much, step up your play. Funny, LA swept them, can’t put that on the fans, I guess. I, for one, never and will not boo them at CBP, but if they don’t step up the offense, I’m going to stage a silent protest (or go on some Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, whichever works, lol.)

“Welcome back Mets bullpen! So good to see you!”

Duaner Sanchez – 0.0 innings, 1 walk, 3 hits, 2 earned runs on all of 9 pitches.

1.5 games back.

We still need a long-term option in right field. Werth is a decent player, but as I have said before, i believe he is best-suited to be a 4th outfielder where he can fill in at all 3 positions, and pinch hit and run.

Jenkins is basically a waste. Before the season i though he was over-the-hill, but I thought he might be able to fill in the hole, maybe get 350-400 at bats and be productive (maybe hit .270 with decent power numbers), but was I wrong.

i will write an article, and the title will read “rollins MAY hold key to phillies offense.” i will back that up with this evidence: before april 1st, rollins was batting .500, on pace for 324 hits, 162 homers, 324 runs, 324 rbis, 162 doubles, 0 strikeouts and so on.

For me, the whole season is on J-Roll’s shoulders not anyone else. The phils are 30-11 when he scores.

The only reason why we’re still in the running: Brad Lidge is a beast

i gotta agree with nick from earlier in the day. It seems like the phillies never hit off the opposing teams starter. if we can’t hit we need someone that will eat pitches at the very least. Jenkins isn’t that guy.

jenkins swings at 3-0 pitches more than any one player i have ever watched. and besides coste, he swings at the first pitch more than any other player.

ooh david ross. a .231 hitter who suffered a serious power outage. i agree here, the consesnsus rightly seems to be to bring up marson in september.

Dodgers acquired Greg Maddux from padres.

I wonder if Maddux nixed any offer or interest from our wonderfull Phills.

Geoff/ Richie Allen – He wasnt gonna waive his no trade clause unless it was to a contending west coast team, aka the Dodgers. The Phillies are on the west coast by the way. He didnt say anything specific about any teams because that would violate league rules.

I can’t agree with the Jenkins prayer. Someone who strikes out 25% of the time isn’t likely to be an offensive catalyst. I side with ped in his view that Rollins is the key. In addition to the amazing win numbers when he scores, he sprimes the pump. If he doesn’t start hitting soon kiss the season goodbye.

Who have you all booed over the years? The only Philly I have ever booed was Jose Mesa.

i’ve never booed anyone. only opposing players, reyes, bonds, chipper jones etc.

Never booed? That’s unPhiladelphian!

Get off Rollins’ case. Considering last year was an aberration, he is pretty much matching his career averages. Jimmy is what he is. A better than average shortstop and a .270 hitter.

The big guns, Utley and Howard, are killing this team. After two years of .309 and .332 average, Utley’s .284 isn’t getting it done in the 3 hole. (Not to mention he looks like he’s in la-la land land half the time.) Howard’s record setting pace of 162 strikeouts absolutely takes the wind out of the sails in crucial moments. (And I argue strikeouts do count – they’re a momentum killer.)

Between the two, these guys make 17.8 mil. Start earning that jingle.

everything is going to be alright.

oh wait, a minute, did u guys say Jenkins is the key? buzzkill. James – pass that over here mAAAHn.

I think the point is this:

We would all like to see them draft well, and develop top young talent, and be able to trade players for additional top talent.. so that you have YOUNG superstars in waiting under your control for 5 years or so.. With that remaining money you are saving, be able to go out and sign established players to contracts, and have them perform as expected.. If you continue those patterns, you keep yourself operating as a winning team for quite some time, and hopefully give yourself a chance to breakthrough and win a World Series.

I wish they would do a better job of those things, just like everyone else does

But Burrell, Rollins, Utley, Howard, Hamels, Myers, Madson, have all contributed to this team’s rise from the joke of NL East. to one of the top teams in the entire National League… They have Utley locked up, They have Howard and Hamels under their control for 3-4 years still… It will be interesting to see if they resign Burell, and what they do with Myers and Madson in the future.. this team, as currently constructed should have until the end of next season to breakthrough.. if they can’t get it done at that point… step back and make some moves. as Feliz will be gone too, we could be looking at a roster overhaul sooner than later.

I would be OK with Burrell leaving if they could find a righty that hits .300 with 25 HR and 100 RBI…. Problem is.. those guys are expensive..

We all thought that our infield alone was good for close to 150 HR this year.. Howard 40-50, Utley 30, Rollins 20-30, Feliz 20, Catchers 15-20

If those guys are hitting the long ball, you can get away with speedy outfielders who don’t drive the ball as much as Burrell… If Golson could stop striking out all the time, he would be awesome.. an OF consisting of Werth, Golson, Victorino would be great defensively..