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That was the worst loss they’ve suffered in a while.

Nothing really went right for them. Especially the back of the bullpen… ouch!

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Wasn’t it a no decision against Moyer? Moyer only gave up 2 runs and Victorino got them back.

Not a bad idea, maybe league minimum he’s got to be better than Kris Benson is so far.

That sucks. I hate the way they work wins/losses.

Mike.. I think WaWa has $5 gift cards…

I dont recall them even inquiring on dan haren. oakland wouldve asked for twice what we gave them for blanton, but it would have been worth it. outman, cardenas, golson, victorino or carrasco. something like that probably. id probably have done it too, im a huge dan haren supporter, i think wed rule the national league with a hamels haren combo. shane.

you notice arizona pulled their extension offer with brandon webb?

im pretty sure the phillies were hell bent on getting kris benson in the fold after they lost out on kyle lohse

Did you see the Haul that Oakland got for HAren, I think it was 5 or six players. No way our crap ownership would do that. I am a big fan of Haren also. They now have Webb and Haren signed for the next 3 years, that is an excellent 1 2 punch.

it’s all howard’s fault. what a bum. completely halted that ralley. how can you not know a low and outside slider is coming? seriously. terrible terrible terrible. couldn’t even draw a walk.

Anyone here go to phuturephillies.com, they do a top 30 prospects list and if you look at the numbers for our young players (under 20) and recent draft picks. They are all adjusting well to the transition from High School/College to their respective leagues.

I know these guys are awhile away from being even near the show but hey still it is some good progress in developing a farm system.

I think, in all honesty, that the lower tiers of the farm system have improved, but they havent built up their top two levels yet. they have some good double-a prospects, but the reading phillies as a team still suck i think.

thats where they need to spend the money, at AA and AAA and its killing them right now. Im ok with the A and below guys, and thats a good start, but so what? what good is it if they get promoted and get lost in AA and AAA for years without improving? i think thats their problem, other teams know it, and thats why we didnt get dan haren.

our front offices, from phila to clearwater, SUCK. get cashman in here. let him fire/hire some people. i think that’s a good move.

i think steve susdorf, from fresno st, will be up soon. hell go to AA next year and be up the year after. the sandwich pick, collier, will be longer probably. but youre supposed to use sandwich picks on college players who will go right to AA and be up in 2 years.

compared to amaro, id be all for cashman. i think hes gotten stale in NY

but, the real development DOES take place in AA and below. and thats lacking. anybody can have good single A teams, but the players sitll dont go anywhere frmo there.

oh yeah thats right. if the guy just looked at the AAA rosters hed understand. instead, he looked at a snapshot of top 10s.

im going to just go ahead and ignore that ridiculous statement.

…SUCKS

No, they’re terrible.. they have no good players at all.. the only reason they are in first place, and the only reason that they they ever win is because of one thing.. LUCK

The Mets choke, and we snuck in… we’re in first place because Ed Wade drafted guys like Utley, Burrell, Hamels, Rollins, Howard…. Mike Arbuckle, he wasn’t the one in charge of making those decisions at all… Im going to jump off a bridge if they lose another game.

Brian Cashman is a horrible GM.. they have far and away the higest payroll in any sport, ever… and they don’t win dick.

last night was pretty cool in one way though. we got to see the best batting gloves in baseball (so taguchi) and the best glove in baseball (hanley ramirez) on the same field. that was exciting. and then howard struck out.

see, instead of going by what they tell you, go by what they actually do. its easier that way. thats the same way politicians ought to be judged as well. but its not how most people judge them.

cashman would know what to do with a 100mm payroll, even if its actually 90mm because they keep lying and sayinf that its more.

You’re right Mike.. getting swept in the first round SUCKS, BLOWS, etc… BUT the fact that they had to play a team that was hotter than anyone in baseball history… winners of like 21 of 22 down the stretch.. that ain’t our fault.

They also swept the Diamondback… so they played one of the hottest teams EVER… and lost.. not the end of the world

Don’t give up on Happ so fast. He must be fairly metally tough to deal with how his situation has beeen handled all year. Chalk last night up to only ptching 2-1/3 innings (41 pitches) in the past two weeks. I wish they would give Hamels, Moyer and Kendrick a start off to rest their arms for the year end push and give Happ some innings

I think there needs to be a resurgance of the 6-man rotation. i feel that would really protect your staff if you could get them to go along with it. youd have to spend more on pitching in general, but if you restructred your bullpen to carry a few more guys that have excellent stamina you can do it. there are simply too many serious injuries happening now and i think that can be stopped with a 6-man rotation.