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> <channel><title>Comments on: Marlins Finally Beat Moyer, 8-2</title> <atom:link href="http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/</link> <description>Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 09:59:32 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: Darren Daulton</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25313</link> <dc:creator>Darren Daulton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25313</guid> <description>I was driving down the New Gersey turnpike and I had to make a left. Since I was in Gersey, I had to make a gughandle turn, which is gust stupid. Anyone, while waiting it traffic, I got to thinking, all this gabbering about Gamie Moyer and the Phillies recent loss is getting old. The Phillies are gust not good enough. So go shots of gaeger or go hang out in the Vet’s old gail and stop wasting your time worrying about the Phillies’ chances. They are going nowhere. I know- I’m psychic.Anyone care to buy a J? Geoff?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was driving down the New Gersey turnpike and I had to make a left. Since I was in Gersey, I had to make a gughandle turn, which is gust stupid. Anyone, while waiting it traffic, I got to thinking, all this gabbering about Gamie Moyer and the Phillies recent loss is getting old. The Phillies are gust not good enough. So go shots of gaeger or go hang out in the Vet’s old gail and stop wasting your time worrying about the Phillies’ chances. They are going nowhere. I know- I’m psychic.</p><p>Anyone care to buy a J? Geoff?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25276</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:45:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25276</guid> <description>hes all settled in in philly too.  if they cause him to have to leave ill bet hell be pissed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hes all settled in in philly too.  if they cause him to have to leave ill bet hell be pissed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Harry</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25274</link> <dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:40:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25274</guid> <description>I think the majority of people are realizing how valuable Pat is to a team.  I love him, it&#039;s going to be sad if they don&#039;t re-sign him.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the majority of people are realizing how valuable Pat is to a team.  I love him, it&#8217;s going to be sad if they don&#8217;t re-sign him.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25273</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:40:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25273</guid> <description>Im on board with you about burrell.  hes been the most reliable this year, especially in clutch situations.  he is a MUST keep.  if he doesnt stay, theyd BETTER replace that production with something just as good.  which isnt really out there in terms of free agency, which makes asigning him all the more important.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im on board with you about burrell.  hes been the most reliable this year, especially in clutch situations.  he is a MUST keep.  if he doesnt stay, theyd BETTER replace that production with something just as good.  which isnt really out there in terms of free agency, which makes asigning him all the more important.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25272</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:37:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25272</guid> <description>it was said that the Phillies offered Burrell $20 M over 2years... and his agent said that it wasn&#039;t even close to what they were looking for..If he stays healthy for the remainder of the year.. you need to resign him for 3-4 or something... he&#039;s arguably the most consistent guy on the entire team this year, Chase included...But if the Yankees or someone is going to overpay, you can&#039;t go matching crazy dollars just to keep him, cause they need starting pitching more than anything.Rollins has been disappointing this year, but when he&#039;s going he can still spark this team... same with Victorino..  I&#039;m a big fan of both of those guys, and it would be a big blow to this team if either of them wasn&#039;t in the lineup.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was said that the Phillies offered Burrell $20 M over 2years&#8230; and his agent said that it wasn&#8217;t even close to what they were looking for..</p><p>If he stays healthy for the remainder of the year.. you need to resign him for 3-4 or something&#8230; he&#8217;s arguably the most consistent guy on the entire team this year, Chase included&#8230;</p><p>But if the Yankees or someone is going to overpay, you can&#8217;t go matching crazy dollars just to keep him, cause they need starting pitching more than anything.</p><p>Rollins has been disappointing this year, but when he&#8217;s going he can still spark this team&#8230; same with Victorino..  I&#8217;m a big fan of both of those guys, and it would be a big blow to this team if either of them wasn&#8217;t in the lineup.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Harry</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25270</link> <dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:31:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25270</guid> <description>I just started posting on this site.  I am really eager to meet this Bruce you speak of.I love Victorino and think he is one of the most overrated players in the league.  He is so good defensively... Mi thoughts on Rollins is that his heart (omg intangible!!!!) just isn&#039;t in it this year.  I understand that he had a career year last season, but he is still under performing.  I would definitely not resign him after his current contract is up.What are your feelings on Burrell.  Would you want to resign him?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started posting on this site.  I am really eager to meet this Bruce you speak of.</p><p>I love Victorino and think he is one of the most overrated players in the league.  He is so good defensively&#8230; Mi thoughts on Rollins is that his heart (omg intangible!!!!) just isn&#8217;t in it this year.  I understand that he had a career year last season, but he is still under performing.  I would definitely not resign him after his current contract is up.</p><p>What are your feelings on Burrell.  Would you want to resign him?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25269</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:31:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25269</guid> <description>What feels so wrong is that WE are all watching this team at home everynight, or going to the park, spending $10+ to park, $7 for a beer, $3.50 for a bottle of water, etc.. .And that the fans all want to win more than the owners do...Honestly, Mark Cuban or Ed Snider would be AWESOME to have as the owners of this club.. but the guys currently in place are making $$$millions.. so they aren&#039;t going away anytime soon... it all comes down to it being a business.. and the fans get screwed because of it</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What feels so wrong is that WE are all watching this team at home everynight, or going to the park, spending $10+ to park, $7 for a beer, $3.50 for a bottle of water, etc.. .</p><p>And that the fans all want to win more than the owners do&#8230;</p><p>Honestly, Mark Cuban or Ed Snider would be AWESOME to have as the owners of this club.. but the guys currently in place are making $$$millions.. so they aren&#8217;t going away anytime soon&#8230; it all comes down to it being a business.. and the fans get screwed because of it</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25268</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:28:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25268</guid> <description>OH, ITS DEFINITELY WRONG.  im with you 100 percent there.bruce is worse, to bruce, pat gillick is some sort of demigod.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH, ITS DEFINITELY WRONG.  im with you 100 percent there.</p><p>bruce is worse, to bruce, pat gillick is some sort of demigod.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Harry</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25266</link> <dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:26:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25266</guid> <description>&quot;everyone knows that EVERYONE: sports teams, corporations, citizens, and ESPECIALLY the government ALL misreport their financial operations.&quot;True, but it just feels so wrong when a sports team does it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;everyone knows that EVERYONE: sports teams, corporations, citizens, and ESPECIALLY the government ALL misreport their financial operations.&#8221;</p><p>True, but it just feels so wrong when a sports team does it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25265</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:25:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25265</guid> <description>haha.. me and Bruce tend to agree on a lot of stuff... Phil too.  not sure where he&#039;s at today.. but he usually has a more level-headed view of things.I just try to point out the facts, and make everyone stop and think, and not just repeat whatever the morons on 610wip are yelling about..There are some real issues.. I was the one calling for Rollins and Victorino&#039;s heads when the team was losing and they weren&#039;t doing anything (instead of going after 8-hole hitter Carlos Ruiz, and So Taguchi and stuff)...  And as much as people want to say Ed Wade sucks, Gillick sucks, Amaro sucks, and Arbuckle sucks... SOMEBODY has to be credited with putting this team together... right?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha.. me and Bruce tend to agree on a lot of stuff&#8230; Phil too.  not sure where he&#8217;s at today.. but he usually has a more level-headed view of things.</p><p>I just try to point out the facts, and make everyone stop and think, and not just repeat whatever the morons on 610wip are yelling about..</p><p>There are some real issues.. I was the one calling for Rollins and Victorino&#8217;s heads when the team was losing and they weren&#8217;t doing anything (instead of going after 8-hole hitter Carlos Ruiz, and So Taguchi and stuff)&#8230;  And as much as people want to say Ed Wade sucks, Gillick sucks, Amaro sucks, and Arbuckle sucks&#8230; SOMEBODY has to be credited with putting this team together&#8230; right?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25264</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:22:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25264</guid> <description>bruuuuuuuuuuuce. where are you bruce?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bruuuuuuuuuuuce. where are you bruce?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25263</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:21:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25263</guid> <description>everyone knows that EVERYONE: sports teams, corporations, citizens, and ESPECIALLY the government ALL misreport their financial operations.  you think the govt is being honest when they say that the jobless rate is 5.9%? HAHAHAHA, try like 17%weve been in a downturn since 2006, and have been in a flat out recession almost long enough for it to be technically considered a &quot;textbook,&quot; not great, depression. (recession = 2 quarters of negative growth, depression = 4 quarters negative growth).so if all this stuff goes on, and we all know it goes on.  (this is all really obvious, right? it should be), then OF COURSE mlb teams lie about their payroll and revenue figures.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone knows that EVERYONE: sports teams, corporations, citizens, and ESPECIALLY the government ALL misreport their financial operations.  you think the govt is being honest when they say that the jobless rate is 5.9%? HAHAHAHA, try like 17%</p><p>weve been in a downturn since 2006, and have been in a flat out recession almost long enough for it to be technically considered a &#8220;textbook,&#8221; not great, depression. (recession = 2 quarters of negative growth, depression = 4 quarters negative growth).</p><p>so if all this stuff goes on, and we all know it goes on.  (this is all really obvious, right? it should be), then OF COURSE mlb teams lie about their payroll and revenue figures.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bski</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25261</link> <dc:creator>bski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:21:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25261</guid> <description>Don &amp; Harry....Please excuse me for entering into your Feliz discussion, but let&#039;s take the glass half-full approach, shall we.  We could still have Wes Helms or Abraham Nunez there.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don &amp; Harry&#8230;.Please excuse me for entering into your Feliz discussion, but let&#8217;s take the glass half-full approach, shall we.  We could still have Wes Helms or Abraham Nunez there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25260</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:19:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25260</guid> <description>Geoff, you&#039;re right .... if in 2-3 years, this team hasn&#039;t gotten any closer to a World Series, and the team hasn&#039;t increased payroll enough to prove that they are indeed trying to win a championship... they will have a tough time getting 20,000 people to the games..in the meantime.. why not enjoy the team as they are and hope they make a run in the postseason</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff, you&#8217;re right &#8230;. if in 2-3 years, this team hasn&#8217;t gotten any closer to a World Series, and the team hasn&#8217;t increased payroll enough to prove that they are indeed trying to win a championship&#8230; they will have a tough time getting 20,000 people to the games..</p><p>in the meantime.. why not enjoy the team as they are and hope they make a run in the postseason</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25259</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:17:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25259</guid> <description>im not sure about don.  i dont think he does.  but EVERYONE on this board knows the one guy here that DEFINITELY works for the phililes....Bruuuuuuuuuce, which guys assistant are you Bruce? gillick or amaro????</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im not sure about don.  i dont think he does.  but EVERYONE on this board knows the one guy here that DEFINITELY works for the phililes&#8230;.Bruuuuuuuuuce, which guys assistant are you Bruce? gillick or amaro????</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25258</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:16:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25258</guid> <description>good call matt</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good call matt</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25257</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:14:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25257</guid> <description>I would put money on Don working in the Phillies front office.  It would explain a lot of things, including the idiocy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would put money on Don working in the Phillies front office.  It would explain a lot of things, including the idiocy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25256</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:14:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25256</guid> <description>Are you serious?  All i did was point out the fact that Feliz wasn&#039;t a TERRIBLE player and bad signing... that he was, in fact, a VERY GOOD signing..He may not be GREAT like Bobby Abreu... but he&#039;s not bad..I don&#039;t think you read anything that anone else writes...I&#039;ve said all along that he&#039;s made some bad moves (but all GMs do)...but that his good moves have outweighed the bad, and improved this team since he&#039;s been here... its either that or LUCK...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you serious?  All i did was point out the fact that Feliz wasn&#8217;t a TERRIBLE player and bad signing&#8230; that he was, in fact, a VERY GOOD signing..</p><p>He may not be GREAT like Bobby Abreu&#8230; but he&#8217;s not bad..</p><p>I don&#8217;t think you read anything that anone else writes&#8230;</p><p>I&#8217;ve said all along that he&#8217;s made some bad moves (but all GMs do)&#8230;but that his good moves have outweighed the bad, and improved this team since he&#8217;s been here&#8230; its either that or LUCK&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bski</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25255</link> <dc:creator>bski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:13:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25255</guid> <description>Geoff, I&#039;m glad to see that I am not the only conspiracy theorist out there regarding MLB teams and their revenue reporting.I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ve ever read anything by Andrew Zimbalist.  He is an economist, a professor at Smith College, and he has written a few books about baseball economics.  Very interesting stuff.A couple quick things about it....You got it right, the revenue numbers are what was REPORTED, not the actual numbers.  Just like any major corporation, MLB teams have accountants that finagle the numbers and hide money.  There are many reasons for this of course, like revenue sharing, for example.The bottom line is that MLB teams are very good at obfuscating (lying is such a nasty word) about their financial picture.  Although we will never know how much, it is beyond question that they are hiding money.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff, I&#8217;m glad to see that I am not the only conspiracy theorist out there regarding MLB teams and their revenue reporting.</p><p>I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve ever read anything by Andrew Zimbalist.  He is an economist, a professor at Smith College, and he has written a few books about baseball economics.  Very interesting stuff.</p><p>A couple quick things about it&#8230;.You got it right, the revenue numbers are what was REPORTED, not the actual numbers.  Just like any major corporation, MLB teams have accountants that finagle the numbers and hide money.  There are many reasons for this of course, like revenue sharing, for example.</p><p>The bottom line is that MLB teams are very good at obfuscating (lying is such a nasty word) about their financial picture.  Although we will never know how much, it is beyond question that they are hiding money.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rob</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/comment-page-4/#comment-25253</link> <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:12:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/marlins-finally-beat-moyer-8-2/#comment-25253</guid> <description>It&#039;s our duty to complain as long as we don&#039;t win a world series.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s our duty to complain as long as we don&#8217;t win a world series.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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