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Sources on FoxSports.com say that an unidentified team has claimed RF Brian Giles off of waivers, and the two teams are talking trade. I wonder what the chances are that it’s Philly.

and the phillies don’t really need another geoff jenkins… which is pretty much what giles is at this point. they need a right handed bat off the bench no really left.

or never mind, he’s hitting .318 away from petco… he’s what the philllies wish jenkins is

Oh, sorry…I forgot Howard got the Jeltz last night – I didn’t realize you hadn’t updated the page with the Ashburn for tonight yet. My bad!

“..could be a bottom-feeding team looking longterm.” I’m not sure what that means for a 37 yr old player making $10 million.

I’d rather Werth played more than getting Giles, but who knows how it will play out. And while it’s possible the Mets are the ones that claimed him, they can’t claim him now if they learn the Phils did – they lost their chance.

i almost forgot about cervenak, that was awesome to see. hope he continues to get chances to come in games. i remember watching him in spring training and liking what i saw. hopefully he keeps getting chances to get in games, maybe even a start at 3rd in a less important series.

Christopher, I don’t think any series from this point forward will be considered a “less important series.” They are all equally important so that we can distance oursevles from the Mets and Marlins. i understand what you mean, and I’m sure he’ll get some PH appearances and maybe a start or two, but they have Bruntlett and Dobbs that will likely get most of the starts.

Ryan, I found my post rather quickly, so here it is:

The Waivers system works like this, in a nutshell to those of you who don’t know. Unlike what Geoff is suggesting, players aren’t “waived” in the traditional sense that the team cuts ties with them. The Phils could put Ryan Howard on the waiver list (they can put up to 7 players a day on waivers). They still own and control the player. That player is essentially on “waivers” for 48 hours, and other teams within that division can select them. In other words, if the Phils put Brett Myers on waivers, any other NL team (in reverse order depending on record) can claim him. Then, once a team claims him, the Phils and that team have another 48 hours to work out a trade. If it falls through, the Phils can put him back on waivers for another 48 hours, etc. At any time, the Phils can pull the player back off of waivers. This is usually done if a team tries to block a trade. For instance, if the Padres tried trading Maddux to the Mets, any team in the NL with a worse record could block it by claiming Maddux. In other words, the Marlins could claim him. If that happened, either the Marlins could work out a deal with the Padres, the Padres could take Maddux off of waivers, or they could wash their hands of Maddux altogether and give him away (for nothing) to the Marlins. If a player clears waivers in that league (nobody takes him), then it goes to the opposite league, where the same process takes place. If the player clears waivers there, then the team (Padres) could do any kind of trade imagineable that they wanted to do with him with any team they choose. Hope this helps.

Also, you’d be surprised at how many excellent trades have been made over the years with big names after the non-waiver deadline. The new deadline now is August 31 for waiver trades. I can think of several trades – David Cone, Jose Canseco, Jeff Kent, Jamie Moyer, etc were all traded through waiver trades in the past 10-15 years. And you can bash Moyer all you want, but the guy has 240 wins – there’s not many pitchers around with that many right now.

Randy Myers was another one that was a snafu. The Blue Jays wanted to trade him, but the Padres snapped him up preventing him from going to a competitor. He sucked for them, and in the end, the Pads were on the hook for the rest of his salary. Manny was waivered in 2003 but nobody took him because they were scared of his salary at the time. Tony Batista was waivered by Toronto in 2001, but the Orioles worked out a deal and he ended up being very productive for them. So, no, Geoff, they’re not all bums that are available through waivers.

Its kinda late and I’m catching the replay since I didn’t get an opportunity to watch the game earlier. The jeckyl and hyde of this team doesn’t cease to amaze me.

I really hope the Phillies claimed waivers on Giles. That guy would be huge for us. I’ve been saying get Giles since June. He would be a great 2 hole or 6 hole hitter for us. It would actually be interesting to see what they’d do with that line up with Giles.

Well, considering Burrell and Victorino have been literally carrying this team the past couple of weeks I wouldn’t get pissy at them for having an off night. You are also the only person who didn’t think the Dark Knight was one of the best movies ever. What was so “mediocre” about it?

1. heath ledger was the ONLY good performance.
2. a distorted story layered with nonsensical explosions
3. what’s up with the mayors eye-liner?
4. batmans voice
5. two-faces burnt face wasn’t realistic
6. rated pg13, no swearing (not realistic)
7. chinese mob boss, who added nothing to the movie, completely fell out of the story.
8. too long
9. cell phone sonar???
10. the fight scenes were blury in imax, couldn’t see shit.

1. Christian Bale, Morgan Friedman, Maggie Gylenhal, the guy who played 2 face, and Gary Oldman were all really good too. Heath Ledger was just that much better.
2. Story wasn’t distorted at all. It was just a lot to take in.
3. No clue…pretty lame.
4. That’s actually suggested in the comics if you read them. He disguises his voice really shittily so that noone can pick up on him being Bruce Wayne.
5. He looked like that thing on Pee Wee’s Big Adventure where the eyes bulge out
6. That was so kids could go see it…pretty lame.
7. He didn’t fall out of the story at all. I just don’t think you were following it.
8. I like long movies so that didn’t bother me.
9. The Government actually does that.
10. I didn’t see it in imax. No problems seeing the fight scenes.

he loses respect for cheating on his wife, etc etc

The Dark Kight was the most esoteric movie since the first Matrix came out. You gotta go under the surface to get at what the movie is raelly about.

Also, if they show it in the movies and its some type of surveillance or military equipment thats feasible, it usually means the NSA already has it and is using it. You know when your phone makes a buzzing sound whrn its on sometimes? for those who have razors, when youre on a call, and it starts to buzz when theres another wave signal being run through WHILE youre talking on it? well, yknow, maybe thats what that is.

there is no reason to see that movie in an imax, it ruins it because you cant follow things as well at the imax. the imax is meant to stupefy you with breathtaking scenery (mt. everest), and isnt really meant to follow an action-packed storyline.

Health Ledger carried the movie. Christian Bale is actually a good Batman because thats what Batman is supposed to be like (a psychopath).

i could not stand the other canon of batman (the 4 movies) because they were so caricatured and cartoonish that it cheapened the story. jack nicholsons joker is a walking cartoon instead of a raw psychopath.

the key about the joker in this movie is that NOTHING he says is true on the surface. everything is a trap, a lie, or a veiled statement. EVERYHTING. it was totally brilliant.

the charachters in this canon are much more real-feeling and raw then the phony cartoonish nature of the other movies. (guys in neon roller blades with neon knee patches and neon skullmasks and hockey sticks? come on now….)

the movie is about the core elements of the human psyche when large groups of people are put under stress. what do people revert to when they are threatened? they focus on the key players and between the two of them, batman and joker control the entire city. batman has a god-complex (white eyes when looking at cellphone sonar = all seeing eye) and isnt really a “hero” in the strict sense of the term. how does the government response? total police state lockdown…how does batman respond? all seeing eye, vigilante god-complex behavior. how does joker act? EVERYTHING is 10 steps ahead of batman and the police. he act like he has no plan but he has it all worked out already.

so, yeah i liked it.

From the PDN:

Kendrick is 20-9 in 42 big league starts.

You know, that is damned impressive- particularly for a guy for a guy whose openly admitted organizational ceiling is number four starter.

Hats off to Kyle. He has mediocre stuff- but gets the most out of it. And he and the Phillies deserve a “good job”

I like your analyzing of Dark Knight, Geoff. I loved the movie. There isn’t much bad I can say about it at all. It was in my top 10 favorite movies ever. I’m a comic book nerd so I usually trash all comic movies but this is 1 of the 3 I really enjoyed. The other 2 are Batman Begins and Ironman. Spiderman 1 and 2 were enjoyable, but they were very flawed.

spiderman was how i envisioned it would be, so in that sense it was good. but theres something about it thats just not right. they messed up a lot of detials.

ironman was an AWESOME movie, esoteric in its own way. best special effects in any movie to this date. batman begins had a different underlying metaphoric plotline about the nature and power of secret societies. liam neeson was outstanding in that movie. but in a sense, batman creates the joker. like, someone just pops up out of the system with no name, no identifiers, etc.

aaron eckart (two-face) was also in a quality science fiction movie called “paycheck” with ben affleck. i hate ben affleck, but the movie is based off a phillip k dick novel. those ALWAYS turn into good movies (blade runner, total recall, a scanner darkly, even minority report was entertainig).

even webbs sinker is 88-91 most of the time, which is kendricks range, webbs just has more bite to it. kendricks sinker has been improving, as has the changeup. the greatest impvoment youll see will be next year when hes had an offseason to work on his changeup.

no, not at all. i am saying that i have a few friends who saw it in imax and had to go see it in a normal theater to fully appreciate it.

they were sitting in like the 5th row of the imax and couldnt see anything that was going on in the movie.

has anyone found out who claimed giles last night yet?

whats the consensus here with the incredible hulk vs the ang lee hulk.

does anyone actually like the ang lee one?

i felt the newer one with ed norton was actually pretty good.