Quantcast


Rollins: Phils Fans Aren’t Supportive Enough

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Thu, August 14, 2008 12:17 AM | Comments: 215
Posts

Jimmy Rollins and Ryan Howard were on “The Best Damn Sports Show Period” last night, and they were asked about playing in an environment like Philadelphia. Here’s what they said:

Chris Rose: Is it bad? It’s not that bad, is it?
Howard: In Philly? Umm …
Rollins: It can be.
Howard: It can be.
Rollins: It can be. I mean, there are times. Like, one of those cities, they — I might catch some flak for this but … they’re frontrunners. You know, when you’re doing good, they’re on your side. When you’re doing bad they’re completely …
Rose: But that’s a lot of cities.
John Salley: That’s called family. That’s called family.
Rollins: Yeah man, I hear you, but for example, Ryan’s from Saint Louis and — you know — Saint Louis, it seems like, they support their team, and they’re out there and they’re encouraging. In Philly — can’t be no punk.

It’s a shame, really, that we’re now at this stage with Rollins. After the lax play, benching and showing up late, Rollins has to say something like this.

First off, let’s put this out here: Rollins has a small point. At least from his perception. He’s been in Philly his entire career and has seen some bad teams. He’s seen some sparse crowds, and yeah, when the Phils stink, the crowds are sparse. It’s true — when the Phils play bad, the fans usually stay home. And yes, I do get a little miffed when most fans don’t clap before a big spot in a game. So he has a point there. Maybe we’re not like Cardinals fans, who do show up to every game and cheer (somewhat blindly) for their team every day.

But we’re not Cardinals fans. We haven’t had a recent world champion. We’ve only had one. We’re supporting the worst franchise in baseball history. Have a little perception from our side, Jimmy. Realize that we’re starving for a championship. Realize that in Boston, a city that today would be called one of loyal fans, no one went to storied Fenway Park in the early 1990s. Realize that in the Bronx, nobody went to Yankee Stadium during those lousy mid 1980s Yankee teams. Realize that 28 of the 29 big league cities are not Saint Louis.

But this isn’t about Saint Louis. It’s about a supposed leader who completely turned himself against his fanbase. This guy couldn’t buy a boo in 2007; this year he’s practically begging for us to hate him. Why? What the hell have we done to him? We’ve paid good money to see this team play. We’ve packed Citizens Bank Park to the brim more than 40 times in 2008 for this team. We throw down money to see a division champion defend its title. And what have the players given us? Whining. Lethargy. And this crap — from the supposed leader.

Hey, Jimmy, you make millions of dollars each year to play this grand old game. If I made millions to swing at 15 pitches and take a few grounders every day, I wouldn’t care one bit if the fans supported my team. And yet we do support you. We come out in droves. We want a champion, that’s the bottom line. Sure, Cardinals fans like having a good, friendly family time at Busch Stadium II. Like I said before, they’re the only franchise that has that type of fandom.

All we’ve ever wanted is for our team to show up everyday, play good baseball, and hopefully win about 60 percent of its games. Like Boston, like New York, if you make the playoffs, we’ll be clapping for every single moment. But we’re not there yet. And we might not get there in 2008, mainly because of you, Jimmy. You’re not playing well. And that’s the issue. Ever figure that when you played well in 2007, we supported your every move?

Anyway, Jimmy is asking to leave Philly. Maybe he can follow in Scott Rolen’s path, get away from “pressure” and indulge in “Baseball Heaven.” And if so, that’s sad — we always … always thought he was tougher than that, better than that.

 
Get awesome Phillies t-shirts here
 
  • Posts: 0 adam

    something has changed in jimmy since he won the mvp award, this is why i like burrell, he has struggled and endured the boos without opening his mouth

     
  • Posts: 0 adam

    we cheer when things go well and boo when they don’t, that’s what fans do because they are in the stands

     
  • Posts: 0 Greg V.

    I hope Jimmy ends up on the waiver wire next week! It is really sad what has become of him. Even more sad is the Phillies website which seems to endorse his comments. I’m completely disgusted! I have been a fan of this team from my birth (they won the Series when I was 3 months old). I have supported some great teams (’93) and some bad teams (2000) and I have never booed them! But next week when I’m there, I will be sure to exercise my best Mets at bat, when Mr. Rollins steps up to the plate!

     
  • Posts: 0 Georgie

    Very well put, Tim. I’ve been questioning his newfound attitude all season, looking for a reason for this complete reversal. I loved Jimmy, he was a joy to watch until this year. I never thought I would say this, but I think he needs to go, and that interview pretty much was the nail in the coffin. It’s obvious he doesn’t want to be here, prefers a town that doesn’t know that much about the game, and fans will kiss his ass no matter what. His prima dona attitude could be part of the team’s problem, looking to him to be their leader like last year, and now he just doesn’t care.

     
  • Posts: 0 ChrisB

    The whole “philly” fan thing is such a load of shit. I mean, sure, we’re tough people who’re very invested in our teams. But so are so many fans from so many teams. The only thing that separates us from other fans is the fact that we haven’t had a goddamn championship in 25 years! You take Boston, or LA, or New York, or Atlanta, or any fucking city that has the same 25 year streak, of course we are gonna be cynical and tough. The whole “asshole philadelphia fans” thing seems so misconstrued to me. It’s completely media generated, and the players like Rollins and Howard are buying into it. You know when we’ll stop booing? You know when we will support your every move, Rollins? WHEN YOU WIN A FUCKING CHAMPIONSHIP. And not a moment before then. We’ve had too many good athletes make promises and fail to deliver. Suck it up, and win some games. Or at least show up to them on time.

    Sorry, bad rant. Just pissed.

     
  • Posts: 0 ChrisB

    Also, the thing about it is, when (or if) on of the philly franchises wins a championship, you know every goddamn player on that team will be loved for all time. Even if those players turn into huge assholes. Certainly if TO had brought home a Vince Lombardi trophy in ’04, no matter how much of a jerk he was, I would still support him.

    In other words, this city can be so giving, a team just needs to fucking win to see it.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jamie

    Well stated, Tim. I think Jimmy has a lot of potential and can be a great player for years to come, but if he keeps this up, I wouldn’t mind seeing him shipped out of town for some pitching or outfield help. We could give Donald a shot, or go after a FA that’s much less of a headache than he’s become this year.

     
  • Posts: 0 Wilson

    This is ultimately one of the saddest days of my Phillies life. There aren’t too many that I’d put before it. From the very beginning on his fledgling career I was a Jimmy Rollins fan. He was the first Phillie that I really went out on a limb to cheer for since Kruk. I don’t really know why, if it was his energy, his charisma, his spark, when he came up, but I liked him. I was pumped with the hitting streak and thought he finally got his just dues with the MVP last season. And now 2008….what happened Jimmy? His laziness, poor play, and now he runs his mouth, have all been the anti-Jimmy. Young James, you are on the fast track to infamy with other philly “phavorite” athletes named Owens, Rolen, and Lindros. I never thought it would happen, but I too will boo J-Roll when he comes to the plate next time at CBP. He needs to go. Bring me Jason Donald

     
  • Posts: 0 Georgie

    Go ahead and rant- what do you tell someone like my dad, who’s almost 87 and has seen one championship in his lifetime? He keeps saying to me, I hope the Phillies win a WS before I die. He has stuck with this team thru the bad and good, but do players like Jimmy or the owners give a crap about fans like that, apparently not. Sure they’re competitive almost every year, but that’s not enough anymore. This town deserves a winner, and Jimmy’s not one anymore.

     
  • Posts: 0 danny

    hahaha bye bye Jimmy!

     
  • Posts: 0 Greg

    Rollins needs to shut his mouth and try winning a game , instead of pointing fingers at the fans.

     
  • Posts: 0 rob

    Lack-of-hustle benchings…showing up late for games…and now this.

    Wow.

    Well, look at the brightside.

    At least the Phils don’t have a selfish punk like Jose Reyes on their team!

     
  • Posts: 0 Greg

    Gillick needs to make changes even if means send Rollins Packing.

     
  • Posts: 0 jim

    I am 50 years old and have been a Phillies fan for 45 of those years. Faithfully watch or attend at least 150 games a year. During that time I have seen EXACTLY ONE Championship. It has now been 10,158 days, 23 ours, and 46 minutes since the 1980 World Series. I am STILL a Phillies fan. For Jimmy Rollins to call me a front runner is ABSURD. Jimmy Rollins can kiss my front running ASS!

     
  • Posts: 0 Greg

    ould have fooled me Rob

     
  • Posts: 0 Rich the Mets Fan

    As much as I would love to say “Good riddance” in regards to Jimmy, being the Mets fan that I am, you all would be surprised to learn that I’m just as stunned about his regression. I gave him respect where it was due after last season. Now I’ll just take that respect back, thank you very much.

    After this season, I predict he heads West to L.A. Kinda fits his style, right? He’ll fit in with his wheat grass drinks and demands to be scripted in a big-budget flop. As Ron White put it, “It changes people.” Well, he has changed since last season, but going to Hollywood would make it full-blown and very fitting.

     
  • Posts: 0 Greg

    I too am like you Jim and I agree

     
  • Posts: 0 J-Man

    Maybe he just wants out of Philly because the organization doesn’t do enough to try and win which is true and he’s trying to find ways to be traded.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jmmy Rollins

    hey frontrunners! I won the MVP award last year, don’t hate me.

     
  • Posts: 0 Tomato

    I am just devastated right now. I should have expected this given Jimmy’s behavior this year, but I’ve been blindsided.

    By the way, Jimmy’s performance today really showed me he wants the love from the fans.

     
  • Posts: 0 Phil

    I got home from the bar around 11 and turned on the game to see a 6-1 lead. I came on here and read that in the game thread under the same post. I then researched it online and then closed my laptop for the rest of the evening. I am truly devastated by his actions this year. I bought my Rollins jersey in like 03 or 04. He’s been my favorite player since 02. I used to go to the vet just to see him play. I claimed he’d be the next Jeter. I was so excited to have a player like that on this team. I’m actually really hurt now. I’m about to sell my Rollins jersey and bobble head doll on ebay. I guess us front runner fans aren’t the same ones chanting MVP every time you came up to bat. I really wish there was a way I could tell him how I feel.

     
  • Posts: 0 danny

    I hope Jimmy gets booed big time!

     
  • Posts: 0 Phillies Suck

    Thats if he shows up in time!

     
  • Posts: 0 Rob

    I just don’t get it. What a pussy.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jimmy Rollins

    *sniffle* can I get an order of french cries with that wamburger?

     
  • Posts: 0 Mark

    They deserve the fans’ ire. Last 2 games; UGLY! Score early and not often enough, and then go to slumber always depending on the pitching without augmenting the runs with offensive production later in the game.
    Or getting deep enough behind and not having the ability to come all of the way back. Something is definitely missing this season from last season.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    disgraceful, does anything more need to be said?

     
  • Posts: 0 Philly in LA

    I’ve always liked Rollins. And forget about not running out the fly ball or being late. I don’t care about that so much.

    What’s really bothered me this year is that as the Phils have struggled, everytime Rollins is asked about it, he says the same thing — media and fans making too big a deal about it, season is long and lots of games left, they will get it together.

    Well 6 weeks left in the season and lots of things looking shaky, including usual suspects of clutch hitting and inability to play small ball, but also some more recent shakiness in bullpen and injuries. Defense also looking shaky, and that includes Rollins. Offense way too dependent on long ball.

    Is Rollins still confident Phils can turn it on whenever they want? Fact is phils don’t have a leader, which was clear before Rowand got here (after Rollins) and remains true today with Rowand gone. Rollins was an inspiration last year, but this year is a sour dud and far from a team leader. Utley is too quiet. Victorino too young. Howard’s got his own struggles. Burrell’s been rendered squirrelly. Everyone else either hasn’t been here long, or have their own issues (Mendoza line) that prevents them from being leaders. Hamels certainly could be one, but we only see him every fifth day, and the Phils are doing everything they can do to shatter his confidence with perisistently lousy run support.

    Since Rollins has been a member of the many Phillies teams that have missed the playoffs by a few games, he should know as well as anyone the cost of pissing away games prior to September. Instead, we get to hear a 260 lead off hitter with a lower OBP than Burrell piss about the fans. Phils should release Rollins and sign Mike Richards.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    This is why we don’t win like the Cubs/Sox/Angels… Those players want to win and they know how to win. Rollins is meant to be our leader and Howard is meant to be the big guy of the team yet they both play like little leaguers.

    I really loved what the FO were building here but it’s time for a roster purge, lets be real our roster is stocked with prominent guys who don’t want to be Philadelphia Phillies and the ones that do are allowed to walk, exit Burrell.

     
  • Posts: 0 U R SCUM

    Good bye, Phillies. Teams with this kind of attitude don’t make the playoffs. Enjoy playing the role of spoiler over the rest of the season.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chase Mutley

    Any chance we can get Jeff Garcia and AI off of waivers to play shortstop and first base? They can’t do any worse and they at least stuck up for the fans.

    Go watch the Jimmy Rollins episode of Cribs and then read this again. Corny ass bitch with his monogrammed pool table.

     
  • Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm

    I’m almost reminded of Willie Mays Hayes in Major League 2. After a great season he stars in a bad movie, develops a fake injury and has an attitude problem. And no one knows why.

     
  • Posts: 0 MA Phanatic

    you do realize this is the stuff that costs a team the playoffs, right? I mean, there is no way that we make the playoffs now. Seriously..we’re done. We’re going to finish 3rd in the division.

     
  • Posts: 0 MA Phanatic

    also…..I’ll probably catch some flack for this, but I don’t think Rollins was trying to talk his way out of Philly. I think he’s just taking fan response to his play this year personally. I’m not justifying that idea, but I’m just saying he was the MVP last year and everyone loved him. Now he’s struggling and everyone hates him. He is taking that personally. He feels he is probably owed a year of gratitude, and he’s not getting it. I’m from Boston, and I can tell you, it was the same way with the Red Sox in ’05. The Sox that year could do no wrong. They won a championship in 2004, and everyone loved them so much, nobody seemed to care that they really didn’t play up to their potential in ’05. Now it’s not the same situation this year, i’m not trying to say that. Rollins didn’t win a championship in Philly, but he did win a major award, and my feeling is that he feels entitled now.

    I don’t think he wants to Leave Philly, but I do think he feels hurt and finally let his feelings known to the public. Again, i’m not defending him..just giving my observation of the situation.

     
  • Posts: 0 Dennis

    Screw you Jimmy Rollins! I can’t believe a part of me is sitting here hoping the Phillies fail this year!

     
  • Posts: 0 Tom

    I am truly done with him…hes just become lazy and no heart anymore

    to go on the best damn sports show and say that we are frontrunners and he said philadelphiaaaaa saying sixers eagles phillies etc…

    I can’t wait to c him go and i honestly hope we trade him to toronto or seatle some shitty team in the middle of nowhere and watch him rot away

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    I couldn’t care less about what Rollins says about the fans. Just win, and this year, we’re not winning. I’m not gonna boo him b/c of comments he made, I’ll just do what most fans do, not show up when they play like piss. Apathy is the best message. Wake me up when the Phils win two in a row, until then, I’ll watch women’s archery or something….

     
  • Posts: 0 philsphan

    Jason Donald went 3 for 4 in the Olympics…watch out J Roll!

     
  • Posts: 0 Tom

    also id like to include the fact that i wrote on this board COUNTLESS TIMES

     
  • Posts: 0 Tom

    also id like to include the fact that i wrote on this board COUNTLESS TIMEs about how we need to trade for manny and mostly everybody on this board said no BURRELL IS BETTER HAHAHA…well looks what i c…i c a team that scores once or twice in 2 innings then shuts int down while i c manny hitting NL pitching like it was off a TEE…

    fuck all you burrell lovers

     
  • Posts: 0 Rick

    Oh man! Geoff is going to have a field day with this! Bring on the J-Roll trade proposals. Anything goes no matter how ridiculous after this.

    J-Roll will be moved in the offseason. I think he just about guaranteed that! The worst part is that the Phillies probably won’t get squat in return for him because who wants this attitude on their team? (maybe LA?) Between the attitude and his disappointing season, the Phils will probably get shafted.

    This is pretty disheartening. I thought Jimmy was a Philly kind of guy. I thought he had a thick skin and understood that the fans are going to cheer or jeer depending on performance. You win and you will be LOVED as a legend forever in philly!

    St. Louis fans have no passion for the game. My girlfriend is from western IL and grew up a Cardinals fans. I’ve been there and from my experience, Cardinals fans lack knowledge and don’t understand the game like Cubs, Phillies, Mets, Yankees, and Red Sox fans. They’re boring. They still clap when their players f-up.

    Maybe J-Roll would prefer to be playing for a team like the Marlins where they’re lucky if 5000 fans show up even when they ARE a contender!

     
  • Posts: 0 mick

    OK guys here we go–I have been a diehard Phillie fan for 50 years–listen or watch every game that I do not go to–full season plan holder for years. Yes Rollins should zip it up and play- he is a great talent having an off year, but when it comes to Phillies fans he is RIGHT on.The fans show up , they clap when somebody does well–the rest of the time they sit like bumps on a log. If you go to Yankee Stadium, Shea or Fenway which I do, you see fans load their teams on their back and make the home field an advantage–All three of these parks generate twice the noise of the Phillie faithful. It is unbelievable how quiet Phillies fans are when the team is down a run or two—If you do not believe me go to Shea or Fenway. Until Phillies fans stop taking their worlds problems out on the players,home field will never help this team–it is a huge reason why the Phils do not quite make it over the top–Philadelphia fans–WAKE up you are half the problem

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    mick, I don’t disagree about the atmosphere in the ballpark, etc. I hate Shea and Yankee stadiums, but NY is a baseball town and you can tell when you go to those stadiums. With 2 outs and 2 strikes, the fans stand and cheer, rooting for the K. That just doesn’t happen in Philly. Philly is turning into a GOOD baseball town, but is nowhere near a GREAT one.

     
  • Posts: 0 Lewisauce

    I gave up on this season almost week ago, after that 12-inning Pirates debacle. This cements it completely. The excitement I had coming in to this season is gone, the sheer euphoria I felt in late May feels like last year, and any glimmer of hope that I had remaining has now been extinguished.

    We ain’t making the playoffs. We’re now tied for first place, and it’s going to be all down hill from here, folks. Milwaukee, the Cubs, the Dodgers, the D-Backs, the Marlins — possibly even the Mets — give a shit. Jimmy doesn’t. Howard never did.

    So instead of lamenting too much, I’ll turn my attention to next year. What pitchers are available on the free-agent market? What hitters/leaders are available? Can we get Rowand back from San Fran in a trade? What can we get for Jimmy in the off-season? (Though you and I know the team won’t trade him.)

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Im still a little stunned that I was so right about this guy. He definitely wants out. whoever the GM is, just make it a good one.

     
  • Posts: 0 Fred

    Why has everyone got their shorts in a knot over this? This is the normal professional’s attitude these days. He’s late for games, doesn’t take BP, no hustle on the basepaths – what do you think his attitude is?

    The troubling thing for me is Howard is right beside him chumming along. Is this Howard’s attitude also?

    Forget Marson and Donald as the saviors. They can’t even crack the Olympic team starting nine. You’d think sure-fire big league studs would tear up the Olympics not warm the bench.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Somebody PLEASE tell me where he is wrong in this statement:

    “Rollins: It can be. I mean, there are times. Like, one of those cities, they — I might catch some flak for this but … they’re frontrunners.

    You know, when you’re doing good, they’re on your side. When you’re doing bad they’re completely …”

    Like I said yesterday… he’s 100% correct.. Of all the major sports cities in the entire country, which is known for being especially harsh towards their own players? Philadelphia..

    Rollins has said MANY times before how disappointing it is to be playing your tail off all night long and then hear E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!! chants all night.. and they had plenty of them during the last home stand..

     
  • Posts: 0 Rob O

    I guess Jimmy don’t have to worry about us being frontrunning fans for long. After tonight we will no longer be frontrunners. If the Phils were a real impressive team (like let’s say the Angels) then I could say Rollins has a right to speak on the fan indifference. But if he is basing his point on the Phils winning the division and being swept in the first round last year as the high point for his frontrunning comment, then he needs to be reminded that the Mets collapse is what secured the Phils berth in the playoffs. Rollins acts like the Phils have been some dominant team, and now that they are struggling the fans are fickle. Dude you got in the playoffs through the back door last year and you probably are not making it back this year, largely in part to the fact our lead off hitter and team leader is neither this year. Lynyrd Skynyrd once penned a song called Sweet Home Alabama. There is a line in the song that rebuts Neil Young and his song called Southern Man. So with all due respect to Lynyrd Skynyrd Jimmy, I would just like to say, ” I hope Jimmy Rollins will remember a Philly fan don’t need him around anyhow.”
    The Jason Donald era may start sooner than you think.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ed

    I was in Denver a few weeks ago and went to a Rockies game. Cook was pitching against the Nat’s. The Nat’s beat him up. Cook lasted 5 2/3 gave up 6 runs, and about 9 hits (It was a while ago, but these numbers are close). When he was pulled losing 6 to 2 with a few runners on, they cheered. I was shocked. He would have been booed in Philly, and rightfully so. So yeah there are more friendly place to play but at the same time the crowd wasn’t nearly as into the game as they get at the bank. In fact i walked up to the ticket window and bought seats 20 rows behind the home dugout 1 hour before game time, try that in Philly. It works both ways. A city that loves the game and gets really into it is not going to cheer mediocrity.

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    but Rollins’s point is that last homestand, they were in first place and there were EAGLES chants all over the ballpark. I’d get sick of that too. Philly fans ARE frontrunners, why is that such a bad thing to say?

    Again, I don’t care what he says, I just want him to produce on the field, and he’s been hugely disappointing. Also, he’s not going anywhere unless the Phils trade him for 40 cents on the dollar (which doesn’t make any sense).

     
 
Leave a Comment

>> Create a new Phillies Nation account.
>> Already registered with Phillies Nation? Log in here.
>> Comment without logging in:






Please ensure your comments comply with our Comment Policy.