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Don M, I’m sure you’ll buy my Rollins jersey. You sound like you’re a Mets fan pretending to be a Phillies fans to start fights.

I said this earlier in the thread. I bought my Rollins jersey 5 years ago. I bought it because he was my favorite player. I’d go to the vet and cheer for him with noone there. What he said insulted me. Whether what he said was true or not(it’s true for a lot of these douche bag college kids that go to Phillies games to get drunk) you don’t say it becasue it’s isolating the real fans.

Bonds left the Pirates well after the time you got out of high school.

Has anyone been to Jimmy Rollins website? What a tool. He is so self-centered.

http://jimmyrollins.com/

Yeah, I think my theory on Don M being a Mets fan is right.

yeah i blended two stories together. bonds left the pirates after their run in 1992 i think. i went down there A LOT because it was so cheap.

well it doesnt, because i was never and will never be an eagles fan. i grew up with the flyers and the phillies. im a fan of people like westbrook and some of their players, but never of the organization as a whole.

so if i ever start saying how great the eagles are i expect to be called out, but i dont think youll ever hear that out of me.

TRADE HIM….. Meanwhile – I was at opening day this year, and I believe this nutjob received chants of encouragement for his MVP by default from last year, so I think he needs to shut his trap….. Can’t stand it when someone playing like they’re in an offensive coma has the right to complain about his fans, when we’re still showing up at games and putting money in his and the organization’s pocket…. I’m supporting this team win or lose, but it does not mean I’m going to whistle a happy tune when they’re playing like crap…

It is a good thing that the Phils drafted a shortstop this year in the first round. He may be seeing some big league action sooner than expected if this nonsense continues.

Short stops in mlb as good or better than Jimmy.
1. Jeter
2. Young
3. Hanley
4. Reyes
5. Escobar
6. Theriot
7. Tejada
8. Wilson
9. Hardy
10. Furcal
11. Tulowitzki
12. Drew

That’s more than 1/3

Oh shit. I forgot Guzman

yeah but is it by enough to offset the other abilities he brings?

Thank you Jimmy! This is what Philly needs. They need to calm down and stop being such jerks to other fans and players. No teams or fans respect the Philadelphia fans. Who can respect people who whine, bitch and fight constantly.

I agree with Tim. Also does anyone think this could also be about money??? 7 for $49 million is cheap

I see both sides of this issue. Rollins won an MVP, and everybody goes through slumps and bad years and needs to be given time to work it out without the fans calling for their heads. After winning an MVP, he needs to be cut even more slack than normal. That said, I’m much more inclined to cut a guy slack if he’s putting forth effort without results than if he’s clearly just not putting forth the same effort, hustle, and persistance that clearly made his previous season what it was.

We Philly fans are a bit harsh, and we are a little quick on the trigger finger when an athlete’s performance begins to degrade. But, that’s what we’ve been conditioned to do. Find me another city that’s been so scorned by its former athletes…TO, Lindros, Rolen, etc. Find me another city that has such reason to lose hope. The Detroit Lions are consistently TERRIBLE, but Detroit has the Pistons and Red Wings to look forward to. The Pittsburgh Pirates haven’t been good in years, but the Steelers just won the Superbowl 2 years ago. The L.A. Clippers were the perennial joke of the NBA, but L.A…..well, they’ve got plenty to cheer for.

Deep down, we all knew that Rollins would turn on us. All of our athletes do. It’s a downward spiral by which our athletes turn on us, we get more bitter from it, and our bitterness gets taken out on the athletes when they underperform. All we want is a championship, and like several folks have pointed out on here, if Rollins (or any other) sticks with us and wins a championship, they will be immortalized in Philadelphia. Currently, all we have to cheer for is a fictional boxer…at least he was a champ!

Jaws wants out of ESPN, he wants back in an eagles uniform theyt are nicer then the ones he wore right guys?

don m is definitely some bottom–feeding phony mets fan, probably likes the giants, might be a NY transplant.

Hey listen buddy go talk mets baseball somewhere else this is eagles talk and jaws and McNabb

Matt Cerone is clearly taking some nice drugs, which I would love to try… His blog is the measuring stick for fans who love to rip on their team… Must be a slow Mets news day

Jeter, Young, Hanley Ramirez

are HANDS DOWN BETTER THAN JIMMY ROLLINS..

the rest aren’t..

Furcal (10 pts higher carrer batting Avg, worse fielder),
Hardy (lower Avg. and worse fielder),
Jack Wilson (lower Avg. and worse fielder)
Escobar this year is hitting .281 with 12 errors compared to Rollins’ 5 errors..
Tulo was GREAT last year, but has a .237 avg this year, and 6 errors in 61 games..
Stephen Drew (lower career Avg and worse fielding percentage)

some of those guys migh be better than Rollins in a few years.. Escobar, Tulo, Drew.. but they aren’t yet.. so Rollins is still among the top SS in baseball..

I played in Philly and the fans were terrible. However, after being abducted by aliens and traveling to meet with the Greek Gods, I have come to forgive Philadelphia fans. They do not know better, for it instilled in young children that being obnoxious is acceptable.

yeah i hate that. people that do that are wastes..

I’m a diehard Phillies fan who was 12 in 1964 but who has lived in L.A. for my adult life. I’m going to the game tonight and I hope Myers has the stuff. I always defend Phillies fans because they’re knowledgeable and because at least when I was a kid they always applauded an opposing pitcher who was pitching a good game when he came to bat. The boos go with the territory — pros like Rollins should understand that, and most players – including Jimmy at other times – say that they like to play for fans who pay attention.

But Phila fans should wonder about something — is it a coincidence that they’ve gone 25 years w/o a championship and they are the most critical fans? The fans say they have a right to boo because the teams lose, but maybe there’s a connection. You notice it from 3,000 miles away — the negativity that comes out of Philadelphia is pretty depressing.

frank..i think theres some kind of intangible connection there. i noticed it when i was away. as soon as one bad thing happens in the game the crowd negatively buzzes and you can feel it start to build up. sometimes it goes away but sometimes they keep doing it and it causes the team to meltdown in the span of an inning.

people also will go out and be like: theyre going to lose tonight. my dad does that. with the flyers, every single playoff game, EVERY SINGLE ONE, he said: theyre gonna lose tonight. and i kept saying: shut the fuck up, theyre better than this team, theyre going to win.

the difference, i feel, is that when you know theyre better than the teams theyre playing you feel confident that theyll win. when you start saying theyll lose it annoys people because nobody wants to hear that before the event happens.

with the phillies, i feel that they are actually simply not as good as a lot of these teams. theyre underachieving, yes, but they just cant compete with a team like the dodgers or the AL teams consistently enough.

the negative magic also has the ability to turn a good team into a “choking” team. causing them to play uncharacteristicallly bad. weve seen that before.

i still maintain though, that my approach is meant to focus solely on the organizations ability to put the best team on the field/ice/court every year. if i feel like thayve dont the best they can to put the best team out there, and that team STILL falls short then i wont really be mad at them. see the flyers of last season. they did all they could to assemble a top-notch team, thats fine. build on that.

with the phillies and especially the trash eagles, i always get the impression that the organization and the players are not doing the best they can to put a top-notch team on the field. when i see that, im going to call them out on it and say theyre not good enough because its obvious.

if i think therye good enough, ill say it and let it be known at each step of the way as i did with the flyers this past season. if not, then i wont.

there is some kind of negative magic thinkg that drags the teams down, though, to a certain extent. but if you put a good enough team out there it wont matter and theyll overcome it.

Geoff, you stated it perfectly:

“with the phillies and especially the trash eagles, i always get the impression that the organization and the players are not doing the best they can to put a top-notch team on the field. when i see that, im going to call them out on it and say theyre not good enough because its obvious.

if i think therye good enough, ill say it and let it be known at each step of the way as i did with the flyers this past season. if not, then i wont.

there is some kind of negative magic thinkg that drags the teams down, though, to a certain extent. but if you put a good enough team out there it wont matter and theyll overcome it.”

exactly my thoughts

He’s starting to really annoy me. He doesn’t run ground balls out anymore. He shows up late for a game and then whines about being benched for breaking one of only TWO of the manager’s rules. Suck it up, be a man, and play the damn game for which you are being payed millions. If I put down 40 of my hard-earned dollars for a ticket, I expect to see all-out effort, ALL of the time. Not just when you feel like hustling. Rollins and Howard are starting to get under a lot of people’s skin. I can’t wait to see the response next Tuesday at 7 pm when Dan Baker introduces J-Stroll. (I wonder if the Rangers would be interested in a Jimmy Rollins for Michael Young swap this off-season? Hmm.)