Comments on: What The Heck To Do With Happ? http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Fri, 25 May 2012 12:54:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: J-Manhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-2/#comment-24578 J-Man Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:52:46 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24578 Move Kendrick out of the rotation and see how things can go from there. Move Kendrick out of the rotation and see how things can go from there.

]]> By: August MMLBRC: Philadelphia Phillies « Them’s Good Eaton: Philly/New York sports with a “PC twist”http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-2/#comment-24531 August MMLBRC: Philadelphia Phillies « Them’s Good Eaton: Philly/New York sports with a “PC twist” Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:12:16 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24531 [...] help on that front.  Who knows how this is going to work out — Happ’s role is still undefined, and Walrond is a journeyman who’s numbers don’t exactly scream LOOGY (.227 BAA [...] [...] help on that front.  Who knows how this is going to work out — Happ’s role is still undefined, and Walrond is a journeyman who’s numbers don’t exactly scream LOOGY (.227 BAA [...]

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-2/#comment-24469 Phil Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:54:47 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24469 Um, when did Lidge complain about his arm? I guarantee you they would not be using him if his arm hurt. Um, when did Lidge complain about his arm? I guarantee you they would not be using him if his arm hurt.

]]> By: Zachhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-2/#comment-24468 Zach Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:49:23 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24468 I know it would be hard for myers to go back to the pen already, but part of that theory does make sense. After throwing 100 warm-up pitches in the all-star game (which is a joke) lights out lidge has been complaining about that arm. Now i know he has been amazing so far this year but tonight got a little close against the cards. If we put myers back and let him work his way into the set-up role he gives us insurance as he was a proven closer lat year if lidge needs some well earned time off. it also allows durbin to move back to his old role and we can use him for the long innings when we need him. and most of all it gives us a new quality starter in the rotation in happ. but most of all it gives us a back-up closer which we may need down the stretch (but hopefully not)... I know it would be hard for myers to go back to the pen already, but part of that theory does make sense. After throwing 100 warm-up pitches in the all-star game (which is a joke) lights out lidge has been complaining about that arm. Now i know he has been amazing so far this year but tonight got a little close against the cards. If we put myers back and let him work his way into the set-up role he gives us insurance as he was a proven closer lat year if lidge needs some well earned time off. it also allows durbin to move back to his old role and we can use him for the long innings when we need him. and most of all it gives us a new quality starter in the rotation in happ. but most of all it gives us a back-up closer which we may need down the stretch (but hopefully not)…

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-2/#comment-24135 Geoff Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:32:24 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24135 theyll interview bad candidates to make us want them to pick amaro. by comparison amaro will look like gold but if they brought in a real slick baseball man theyd be way better off theyll interview bad candidates to make us want them to pick amaro. by comparison amaro will look like gold but if they brought in a real slick baseball man theyd be way better off

]]> By: Joeyhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24131 Joey Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:16:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24131 I think Haap could get plenty of work in the bullpen to consider him not rotting if you use him in Condreys role AND as a left handed specialist. I think Kendrick is too steady to take out and our only real shot at getting anywhere is if myers turns the ship around so we have nothing to lose by throwing him to the wolves. so JA really needs to wait for Blanton to suck enough to get yanked. I think Haap could get plenty of work in the bullpen to consider him not rotting if you use him in Condreys role AND as a left handed specialist. I think Kendrick is too steady to take out and our only real shot at getting anywhere is if myers turns the ship around so we have nothing to lose by throwing him to the wolves. so JA really needs to wait for Blanton to suck enough to get yanked.

]]> By: GM4aDAYhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24130 GM4aDAY Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:05:55 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24130 is there ANY chance at all that they will actually interview guys for the gm spot or is amaro or arbuckle a given???? i sure hope not..change is needed...that and the 3 year contract rule for fa pitching..that lands us miltons,liebers and eatons. is there ANY chance at all that they will actually interview guys for the gm spot or is amaro or arbuckle a given???? i sure hope not..change is needed…that and the 3 year contract rule for fa pitching..that lands us miltons,liebers and eatons.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24129 Geoff Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:54:42 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24129 random thought: would anybody trade jimmy rollins for dice-k? not necessarily straight up. boston needs a shortstop in the offseason, and they have a plethora of pitching and the new gm would ask for a number 2 type guy in all likelihood. just wondering... random thought: would anybody trade jimmy rollins for dice-k? not necessarily straight up. boston needs a shortstop in the offseason, and they have a plethora of pitching and the new gm would ask for a number 2 type guy in all likelihood. just wondering…

]]> By: Georgiehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24128 Georgie Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:50:56 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24128 I think Happ will be in the starting rotation soon for one reason or another-let's see how Myers does tonite, he's been looking really wild-eyed since he came back up, not sure what that means. And hasn't Hamels already pitched more innings than ever before in his career? I'm not sure he's enough of a stud to go 8 innings the rest of the season, I'm thinking maybe he does need a rest, or bring him out earlier in the game, maybe no more than 6 innings, whether he likes it or not. Oh, and regarding the salary thing, when you have a team like the Yankees that can generate as much revenue as they do, they will always be willing to overpay for whatever they need, imo. I was reading about their new park, they will have 9000+ parking spaces at 20 bucks a pop, multply by home games, that's over 11 mil just in parking lot rev. I think Happ will be in the starting rotation soon for one reason or another-let’s see how Myers does tonite, he’s been looking really wild-eyed since he came back up, not sure what that means. And hasn’t Hamels already pitched more innings than ever before in his career? I’m not sure he’s enough of a stud to go 8 innings the rest of the season, I’m thinking maybe he does need a rest, or bring him out earlier in the game, maybe no more than 6 innings, whether he likes it or not.
Oh, and regarding the salary thing, when you have a team like the Yankees that can generate as much revenue as they do, they will always be willing to overpay for whatever they need, imo. I was reading about their new park, they will have 9000+ parking spaces at 20 bucks a pop, multply by home games, that’s over 11 mil just in parking lot rev.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24126 Geoff Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:58:37 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24126 Yeah it could be useful to give him a start soon (assuming he isnt forced into taking myers' spot again in an emergency situation) to give everyone an extra day of rest. some people might like that, and some might not. depends. Yeah it could be useful to give him a start soon (assuming he isnt forced into taking myers’ spot again in an emergency situation) to give everyone an extra day of rest. some people might like that, and some might not. depends.

]]> By: nickhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24125 nick Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:54:52 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24125 Tim -I like it. I think Happ would be great in long relief (see: Madison 2 yrs ago) and it would really help out the entire pitching staff down the stretch. And I agree with one of the previous statements... they definitely need to TALK him up. Let him know how important this role it <i>and</i> that they're confident he can do it.<b>That being said:</b>I think the first thing they should let him start a game. Not only to give some extra time off to those who need it, but to see how he does out there. Then make the decision of how we want to use him. It can't hurt to go ahead and let every one take a breather now... there are only 8 weeks of baseball left and at this point EVERY game counts. Now is the time to let everyone know what their job is and tell them to starting WINNING BALL GAMES. Tim –

I like it. I think Happ would be great in long relief (see: Madison 2 yrs ago) and it would really help out the entire pitching staff down the stretch. And I agree with one of the previous statements… they definitely need to TALK him up. Let him know how important this role it and that they’re confident he can do it.

That being said:

I think the first thing they should let him start a game. Not only to give some extra time off to those who need it, but to see how he does out there. Then make the decision of how we want to use him. It can’t hurt to go ahead and let every one take a breather now… there are only 8 weeks of baseball left and at this point EVERY game counts. Now is the time to let everyone know what their job is and tell them to starting WINNING BALL GAMES.

]]> By: Jamiehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24123 Jamie Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:51:42 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24123 Muts lose! Muts lose!

]]> By: Jamiehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24122 Jamie Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:48:20 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24122 It sure would be nice if he did. 2 1/2 ahead of the Fish and 3 ahead of the Muts with a win tonight... It sure would be nice if he did. 2 1/2 ahead of the Fish and 3 ahead of the Muts with a win tonight…

]]> By: R.Machttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24121 R.Mac Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:40:33 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24121 4-0 stros goin into the top of the ninth....looking good fellas....hopefully this bum valverde can hold it together 4-0 stros goin into the top of the ninth….looking good fellas….hopefully this bum valverde can hold it together

]]> By: Jamiehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24120 Jamie Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:35:31 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24120 I always hated that loudmouth Wagner. Fuck him - I hope his MRI shows he tore something and he's out for the year. I always hated that loudmouth Wagner. Fuck him – I hope his MRI shows he tore something and he’s out for the year.

]]> By: Richie Allenhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24118 Richie Allen Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:31:21 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24118 There must be a god because Billy Wagner is getting it back for all that trash and shit that comes out of his mouth ..... Remember when he said all that stuff about Burrell? I dont think Ive ever been so happy as hearing Wagner blow another game for the mets. There must be a god because Billy Wagner is getting it back for all that trash and shit that comes out of his mouth …..
Remember when he said all that stuff about Burrell?
I dont think Ive ever been so happy as hearing Wagner blow another game for the mets.

]]> By: Jamiehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24117 Jamie Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:27:48 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24117 Whew! Barely won that one. Now if the Astros can hold on and the Phils win tongiht, we have a bit of a cushion. Not nearly enough, but it's a start.Geoff, I wholeheartedly agree that salaries are ridiculous. Owners and GM's just need to be careful to avoid collusion again. They went through a rash of them in the 80's if you remember. Salaries decreased by about 15% in the mid 80's, although revenues increased significantly. It's ridiculous to pay people like Andruw Jones, etc the money they are making due to their performance (or lack thereof), so hopefully all GM's will all independently recognize this "on their own" instead of with each other and offer less. Look at Lohse last winter - he was more deserving of Silva's money than Silva was, yet nobody wanted a piece of him. We need more of that, but all it takes is one GM willing to pay whatever price to get that one player that screws everyone else. Whew! Barely won that one. Now if the Astros can hold on and the Phils win tongiht, we have a bit of a cushion. Not nearly enough, but it’s a start.

Geoff, I wholeheartedly agree that salaries are ridiculous. Owners and GM’s just need to be careful to avoid collusion again. They went through a rash of them in the 80′s if you remember. Salaries decreased by about 15% in the mid 80′s, although revenues increased significantly. It’s ridiculous to pay people like Andruw Jones, etc the money they are making due to their performance (or lack thereof), so hopefully all GM’s will all independently recognize this “on their own” instead of with each other and offer less. Look at Lohse last winter – he was more deserving of Silva’s money than Silva was, yet nobody wanted a piece of him. We need more of that, but all it takes is one GM willing to pay whatever price to get that one player that screws everyone else.

]]> By: R.Machttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24116 R.Mac Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:23:59 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24116 rox win! rox win!

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24115 Geoff Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:20:09 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24115 i thik this year youll see them cut abck on the nuttiness a bit with these contracts. thats why if ryan howard gets out of control with that hell be shipped out of here so fast...the other issue is, i dont want it to become like the nfls system where someone has a bad year and they get cut with no penalty. the nfl is a total joke right now because the way their contracts are handled. i thik this year youll see them cut abck on the nuttiness a bit with these contracts. thats why if ryan howard gets out of control with that hell be shipped out of here so fast…

the other issue is, i dont want it to become like the nfls system where someone has a bad year and they get cut with no penalty. the nfl is a total joke right now because the way their contracts are handled.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/comment-page-1/#comment-24114 Geoff Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:18:25 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/what-the-heck-to-do-with-happ/#comment-24114 exactly. but you know they did it before.they did it with a-rod. they said, no, thats crossing the line. and they black-balled him and make him come crawling back to the yankees on his own. exactly. but you know they did it before.

they did it with a-rod. they said, no, thats crossing the line. and they black-balled him and make him come crawling back to the yankees on his own.

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