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> <channel><title>Comments on: Burrell&#8217;s Blast Finishes Braves</title> <atom:link href="http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/</link> <description>Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:33:53 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: Gabriel</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40597</link> <dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:30:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40597</guid> <description>i would love matt cain here... its essentially a tossup for cain/lowe
lowe is more obtainable and if you go after/get him you get to keep j-roll, which is a plus.  lowe has better ratios than cain but cain has youth.  i&#039;d give lowe 3/30 but if the market demands it then i&#039;d go 3/36... can you add incentives in baseball contracts?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would love matt cain here&#8230; its essentially a tossup for cain/lowe<br
/> lowe is more obtainable and if you go after/get him you get to keep j-roll, which is a plus.  lowe has better ratios than cain but cain has youth.  i&#8217;d give lowe 3/30 but if the market demands it then i&#8217;d go 3/36&#8230; can you add incentives in baseball contracts?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40592</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:09:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40592</guid> <description>yeah exactly, he stays, but its grudgingly so im not happy about him staying.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah exactly, he stays, but its grudgingly so im not happy about him staying.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40591</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:08:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40591</guid> <description>i said theyd probably not trade him so wed have to deal with him again and be stuck with him.  or something to that effect.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i said theyd probably not trade him so wed have to deal with him again and be stuck with him.  or something to that effect.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40590</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:07:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40590</guid> <description>Under &quot;Holliday May Test Market for Big Deal&quot;Geoff Says:
September 16th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
heres my new plan, the realistic one:burrell walks. howard stays. j-hole (grudlingly) stays, utley, feliz stays. coste goes, marson and ruiz will be your catchers next year. vic stays in center. werth stays but moves to left field.you use the free money to sign a big ticket free agent starter (sabathia - prob no chance, sheets, burnett, lowe, etc.), so that youre rotation is like so:hamels
myers
free agent
blanton
moyercarrasco is waiting in AAA, kendrick waits in AAA to improve himself.happ is packaged and traded for a decent, affordable, serviceable contact-oriented right fielder. (the free agent options arent too exciting)jenkins is gotten rid of at all costs…keep scott eyre and chad durbin. lidge is already staying. romero is already here. madson may or may not be back….go out and get a legit setup man. there are ususally plenty of free agent setup men available every year.bring up young players to fill the bench spots. golson can be the 4th outfielder. stairs is already staying on at the 5th outfielder, backup first base. dobbs and bruntlett are probably coming back too.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under &#8220;Holliday May Test Market for Big Deal&#8221;</p><p>Geoff Says:<br
/> September 16th, 2008 at 2:40 pm<br
/> heres my new plan, the realistic one:</p><p>burrell walks. howard stays. j-hole (grudlingly) stays, utley, feliz stays. coste goes, marson and ruiz will be your catchers next year. vic stays in center. werth stays but moves to left field.</p><p>you use the free money to sign a big ticket free agent starter (sabathia &#8211; prob no chance, sheets, burnett, lowe, etc.), so that youre rotation is like so:</p><p>hamels<br
/> myers<br
/> free agent<br
/> blanton<br
/> moyer</p><p>carrasco is waiting in AAA, kendrick waits in AAA to improve himself.</p><p>happ is packaged and traded for a decent, affordable, serviceable contact-oriented right fielder. (the free agent options arent too exciting)</p><p>jenkins is gotten rid of at all costs…</p><p>keep scott eyre and chad durbin. lidge is already staying. romero is already here. madson may or may not be back….go out and get a legit setup man. there are ususally plenty of free agent setup men available every year.</p><p>bring up young players to fill the bench spots. golson can be the 4th outfielder. stairs is already staying on at the 5th outfielder, backup first base. dobbs and bruntlett are probably coming back too.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40587</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:02:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40587</guid> <description>is there even a point in talking to you about baseball anymore?Jason Donald was horrible in the field this year, but now your saying that he&#039;ll do as good a job as the BEST ss in the NL ??   Our Pitching has carried us this year, due to a lack of consisntent offense... and you want one of our best pitchers to quit, and replace the guy thats done a great job this year as a pitching coach, why??just for the hell of it, im going to back-track and try to find where you said you didn&#039;t want ROllins traded the other day, because you definitely just say all this shit to stir up trouble.. there is no possible way you could believe half of what you post on here</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there even a point in talking to you about baseball anymore?</p><p>Jason Donald was horrible in the field this year, but now your saying that he&#8217;ll do as good a job as the BEST ss in the NL ??   Our Pitching has carried us this year, due to a lack of consisntent offense&#8230; and you want one of our best pitchers to quit, and replace the guy thats done a great job this year as a pitching coach, why??</p><p>just for the hell of it, im going to back-track and try to find where you said you didn&#8217;t want ROllins traded the other day, because you definitely just say all this shit to stir up trouble.. there is no possible way you could believe half of what you post on here</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40586</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:56:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40586</guid> <description>lohse will get 3-4 years 30-40 million at least, but not from us.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lohse will get 3-4 years 30-40 million at least, but not from us.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40584</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:55:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40584</guid> <description>i said that about howard.  that even thoguh he acts like lindros theres no reason to trade him if youre not going to get people like matt cain or tim lincecum back in return.  the value jus is not there for a move like that.  plus, in september he really is their best guy year in and year out.no no jimmy rollins has got to go.  i dont care about how well he is playing.  i dont care about his defense.  yes, thats right.  defense in baseball is a MINIMAL requirement to be a professional.  if you cant play defense then i dont wanna see the guy out there at all.  but if youi can play defense well enough then thats fine.  jason donald can and will do just as good a job as jimmy rollins at shortstop.  PERIOD!  jimmmy rollins is THE most expendable guy of their &quot;core&quot; and theres no reason to even send him out there anymore.  just sit it out the rest of the year and move  on out from there.  find a nice team for him, like toronto or Los Angeles or Oakland.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i said that about howard.  that even thoguh he acts like lindros theres no reason to trade him if youre not going to get people like matt cain or tim lincecum back in return.  the value jus is not there for a move like that.  plus, in september he really is their best guy year in and year out.</p><p>no no jimmy rollins has got to go.  i dont care about how well he is playing.  i dont care about his defense.  yes, thats right.  defense in baseball is a MINIMAL requirement to be a professional.  if you cant play defense then i dont wanna see the guy out there at all.  but if youi can play defense well enough then thats fine.  jason donald can and will do just as good a job as jimmy rollins at shortstop.  PERIOD!  jimmmy rollins is THE most expendable guy of their &#8220;core&#8221; and theres no reason to even send him out there anymore.  just sit it out the rest of the year and move  on out from there.  find a nice team for him, like toronto or Los Angeles or Oakland.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mike m</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40582</link> <dc:creator>mike m</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:50:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40582</guid> <description>I think lohse sign one year 4 million. the way the money is being thrown around for starters is crazy. We have no chance at these prices.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think lohse sign one year 4 million. the way the money is being thrown around for starters is crazy. We have no chance at these prices.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40581</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:50:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40581</guid> <description>ill bet also that the braves sign lowe.as good as moyer has been, in my opinion, they need to bring a very good starter through free agency because the trade value for those guys is really high.  for cain its insanely high but i cant see that deal happening...ever..unless milwaukee can absorb the loss with a deep farm system (something the phillies cant do, which is why theyre forced to look at free agents).that source is smoking crack if they think the brewers are going to give up hardy, fielder, and other players...thats INSANE.  still, the value is high, just maybe not that high.given the complete failure of rich dubee as a pitching coach in every aspect of his responsibilities i think its high time for jamie moyer to take his rightful place as our pitching coach.  that opens up a spot in the rotation for the team to bring in a free agent starting pitcher.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ill bet also that the braves sign lowe.</p><p>as good as moyer has been, in my opinion, they need to bring a very good starter through free agency because the trade value for those guys is really high.  for cain its insanely high but i cant see that deal happening&#8230;ever..unless milwaukee can absorb the loss with a deep farm system (something the phillies cant do, which is why theyre forced to look at free agents).</p><p>that source is smoking crack if they think the brewers are going to give up hardy, fielder, and other players&#8230;thats INSANE.  still, the value is high, just maybe not that high.</p><p>given the complete failure of rich dubee as a pitching coach in every aspect of his responsibilities i think its high time for jamie moyer to take his rightful place as our pitching coach.  that opens up a spot in the rotation for the team to bring in a free agent starting pitcher.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40573</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:32:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40573</guid> <description>im pretty sure that 2 days ago you said you realized that they need to keep Rollins eventhough you don&#039;t like him...Lohse, Silva, Livan Hernandez, Gil Meche.. didn&#039;t they all get like $10 Million or more... or at least seeking that as a deal.. Lowe will end up with a 3 year, $36M I bet</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im pretty sure that 2 days ago you said you realized that they need to keep Rollins eventhough you don&#8217;t like him&#8230;</p><p>Lohse, Silva, Livan Hernandez, Gil Meche.. didn&#8217;t they all get like $10 Million or more&#8230; or at least seeking that as a deal.. Lowe will end up with a 3 year, $36M I bet</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40570</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:22:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40570</guid> <description>IF thats true, that means you cant trade Ryan Howard for any good established pitching at all and youd be trading him for prospects...that tells me you have to keep him. PERIOD.jimmy rollins is still an absolute must trade though, even if it is for prospects.  team looking for a shortstop? help them out, liek toronto, or someone like that.  collect some top prospects off of them and move on.if you cant trade for thtat kind of pitching then you really do have to sign someone like sheets.  also, i was reading that lowe will get 14-15mm? thats crazy.  hes not THAT good.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF thats true, that means you cant trade Ryan Howard for any good established pitching at all and youd be trading him for prospects&#8230;that tells me you have to keep him. PERIOD.</p><p>jimmy rollins is still an absolute must trade though, even if it is for prospects.  team looking for a shortstop? help them out, liek toronto, or someone like that.  collect some top prospects off of them and move on.</p><p>if you cant trade for thtat kind of pitching then you really do have to sign someone like sheets.  also, i was reading that lowe will get 14-15mm? thats crazy.  hes not THAT good.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mike m</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40569</link> <dc:creator>mike m</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:07:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40569</guid> <description>Giants should make that trade now. It adds instant offense. they are loaded with pitchers at the minor league level. So they can let Matt Cain walk. Milaukee also is loaded with triple a and double a prospect there double a team has ten legit pro prospect. They have drafted well. Good trade for both teams.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giants should make that trade now. It adds instant offense. they are loaded with pitchers at the minor league level. So they can let Matt Cain walk. Milaukee also is loaded with triple a and double a prospect there double a team has ten legit pro prospect. They have drafted well. Good trade for both teams.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40567</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:02:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40567</guid> <description>If thats the case, then shouldn&#039;t they go after young prospects, instead of going after a pitcher who will command 4-5 years and $40-50 Million dollars as a free agent??</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If thats the case, then shouldn&#8217;t they go after young prospects, instead of going after a pitcher who will command 4-5 years and $40-50 Million dollars as a free agent??</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jack</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40566</link> <dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:58:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40566</guid> <description>they don&#039;t have the the monies to keep those guys</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they don&#8217;t have the the monies to keep those guys</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40558</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:38:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40558</guid> <description>To show what it takes to get pitchers (of any caliber)..* * *
We may be in the heat of the pennant races, but the Giants&#039; hot stove talk appears to be on fire. A lingering rumor was given new life Wednesday night. ESPN&#039;s Peter Gammons said the Giants could trade starting pitcher Matt Cain, 23, to the Brewers for first baseman Prince Fielder, 24, shortstop J.J. Hardy, 26, and another player. He didn&#039;t cite his source.
* * *...so they would trade almost their entire offense for a &quot;good&quot; pitcher</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To show what it takes to get pitchers (of any caliber)..</p><p>* * *<br
/> We may be in the heat of the pennant races, but the Giants&#8217; hot stove talk appears to be on fire. A lingering rumor was given new life Wednesday night. ESPN&#8217;s Peter Gammons said the Giants could trade starting pitcher Matt Cain, 23, to the Brewers for first baseman Prince Fielder, 24, shortstop J.J. Hardy, 26, and another player. He didn&#8217;t cite his source.<br
/> * * *</p><p>&#8230;so they would trade almost their entire offense for a &#8220;good&#8221; pitcher</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NEPA</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40556</link> <dc:creator>NEPA</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:18:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40556</guid> <description>In terms of the Ashburn, I think Lidge is often overlooked. He came in last night and put them down in order, with 2 K&#039;s, securing the sweep. It&#039;s just that Burrell&#039;s go-ahead HR was very magnified because he was in such a slump.So I guess I have no problem with either player getting it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of the Ashburn, I think Lidge is often overlooked. He came in last night and put them down in order, with 2 K&#8217;s, securing the sweep. It&#8217;s just that Burrell&#8217;s go-ahead HR was very magnified because he was in such a slump.So I guess I have no problem with either player getting it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gabriel</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40555</link> <dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:14:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40555</guid> <description>Peanut Butter (P the B) probably deserves award...
Lidgey deserves it longterm due to the perfect save % - i&#039;d give it to lidge</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peanut Butter (P the B) probably deserves award&#8230;<br
/> Lidgey deserves it longterm due to the perfect save % &#8211; i&#8217;d give it to lidge</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lewisauce</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40551</link> <dc:creator>Lewisauce</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:53:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40551</guid> <description>Lidge gets the Ashburn? Shouldn&#039;t it be Pat? I&#039;m not complaining, I&#039;m just saying ...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lidge gets the Ashburn? Shouldn&#8217;t it be Pat? I&#8217;m not complaining, I&#8217;m just saying &#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NC Jason</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40547</link> <dc:creator>NC Jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:32:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40547</guid> <description>Tim or anyone else, does anyone know if a Phillie team has ever swept another home team before? Hopefully everything will go smooth in Miami.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim or anyone else, does anyone know if a Phillie team has ever swept another home team before? Hopefully everything will go smooth in Miami.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bigbob</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-40546</link> <dc:creator>Bigbob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:31:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/burrells-blast-finishes-braves/#comment-40546</guid> <description>I&#039;m just glad that the Ryan Howard and &quot;can&#039;t hit in the clutch&quot; nonsense comments have dried up and left this site. His September numbers (as in previous years) prove he does get the big hits, when they count. Unless they pitch around him, he should contribte to one, if not, two, wins against Florida this weekend. But it&#039;s doubtful the Phils can sweep the Marlins. They are too hot for that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just glad that the Ryan Howard and &#8220;can&#8217;t hit in the clutch&#8221; nonsense comments have dried up and left this site. His September numbers (as in previous years) prove he does get the big hits, when they count. Unless they pitch around him, he should contribte to one, if not, two, wins against Florida this weekend. But it&#8217;s doubtful the Phils can sweep the Marlins. They are too hot for that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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