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Phillies still need to figure out how to win to do ANYTHING!!!

Somebody asked me how I keep such a positive outlook… and I responded that I do keep a positive outlook because thats what fans are supposed to do.

I’m a fan of this team win or lose, and of course I’d rather see them win, but the majority of people that post on here think the world is about to end if the phils lose a game or a series.. but then think the phils are the greatest thing since sliced bread when they win..

And if it doesn’t make a difference having a positive or a realistic/negative viewpoint.. why not be positive-just-because?

Im not stupid, I know this team has holes.. but I also know that every other team has holes too, and every other team signs guys that underperform, and guys that produce more than expected, and managers that look smart when a move works, and dumb when a move doesn’t …

Don M you put it perfect. I’ve been a Mets fan for 20 years and have seen some terrible ass teams but I’m still a Mets fan and always will be. If I was like a lot of the people out there, I would’ve given up after the Mets historic collapse.

LOL I know what the problem is. Rollins didn’t give a prediction and Beltran did. HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Now I have gone and done something VERY positive-I pulled my circa 1980 pink “Phillies Fever” t-shirt from the bottom of my cedar chest. It is threadbare and a little tight, but I will work it for all its magic this weekend. PHILLIES FEVER!!!!

Phillies don’t have better starting pitching, that is fact. Just look up the stats, it’s not close. Their bullpen has been way better than the Mets bullpen even though they have blown some recently. The only reason the Mets are in this shitty mess that they are in is because they have 22 blown leads by the bullpen. Offensively the Mets are better in all Categories besides HR’s, obviously Shea is not CBP. I just found an interesting stat online, the Mets are the best in the NL Pitching when the opposing team has the bases loaded.

Hamels, Myers, Moyer, and Blanton have been awesome lately

Santana is awesome, Pedro is not, Pelfrey is good, Perez has been much better than expected, Maine is going to be solid his entire career..

Outside of Santana, any phillies pitcher listed can outpitch any of the Mets guys.

> can they come back? yes. will the mets choke up the lead
> again? probably.

I hate to break it to you, Geoff… but there is no Easter Bunny.

“Probably”? PROBABLY??? What’s the basis for a once-in-a-lifetime event “probably” occurring twice in consecutive years? How many consecutive collapses have the Phillies had after 1964′s ’10 Game Phlop’?

I’m not going to lie and say I watch the Mets a lot… but you obviously haven’t been watching the Phillies lately… Myers has been nothing short of FILTHY since he returned from the minors.. Moyer has had mostly Quality Starts all season.. and Blanton has walked more people than we expected, but he’s also done a very good job of keep this team in ballgames since he got here..

Should’ve beaten the Cubs on Friday, but he got hosed by some terrible calls by the umpires. he had a tough game last night, because he allowed 9 baserunners in 4 innings… he was only at 85 pitches or so though, so if they needed to, they could’ve got 2 more from him … so im not going to tell you that was great. But his 2 previous starts. 5.1 against the Cubs, with only 2 ER, against the Dodgers, he went 6 innings, and gave up only 1 ER. (the same Dodgers team that jumped all over Brandon Webb last week)

The only thing I have to say this is 2008 not 2007. This is a way different team than last year. Reyes was just pitiful in August and September and statistically the Mets don’t do well if he doesn’t do well. So far he has been great in August and last year the Mets got beat up by the Phillies. 2007 Phillies won 12 of 18 games against the Mets and this year the Mets have won 10 of 15.

Glad to hear that RiveLz and I respect that, but their are several shallow compadres of yours that come on this site and speak with no sense, and do not have any heart. I respect you for that, but there are few and far between with loyal and intelligent Met fans. Do I think the Phillies will win, of course, do I think it is a foregone conclusion, no way. Will I live and die by them, yes. I truly do believe though that September comes down to good pitching(starting and bullpen), the Phillies have less runs allowed on the year, but September is a whole new ballgame.We shall see!!

“With just over 20 games to play, there’s absolutely still a chance the Phils can overtake the Mets, or the Brewers, or whatever, to take a playoff spot. We were all packing it in on Sept. 5, 2007. Now here we are, almost a year later, and the situation is eerily similar.”

Tim, your intentions are noble, but the situation this year is not eerily similar to what happened a year ago. For one thing, the 2007 Mets had everything to lose after a strong playoff appearance the previous season and being tagged the early favorites. The Phils then, in contrast, had nothing to lose and everything to gain. They were the underdogs. This year, the roles are reversed. The positioning of the standings is the same, but there is a significant role reversal. This time, the Phillies are fumblin’ away their chances. Meanwhile the Mets are, as Hatebreed puts it, “As Diehard As They Come.” At least right now, they “never waiver, never falter, remain diehard,” no matter how much the bullpen can screw up a good thing.

This weekend cannot get here soon enough. Too bad I’ll miss the Saturday game, though, due to work all day until close. Should be a very fun series.

Just a quick little stat about whoever said the Phillies have better starting pitching, in about the same amount of innings, the Mets have a lower ERA, more strikeouts, lower OBP, lower slugging %, lower batting average, less HR allowed, and lower WHIP. Just curious, where did that statement come from?

I said, “I THINK” …as in, in my opinion, … and then said over the past month or so our starting pitching has been awesome, and, in my opinion, better then the Mets.

I guess we’ll see in this series if I’m right or not

Starting pitching better or worse doesn’t really matter. Over the past month the Mets have been the better team… unfortunately.

Do Philly fans support Jimmy Rollins running his mouth about the Mets, even though he’s having a terrible year?

fans shouldnt be like this, its like a gay house

haha- a gay house???

What kind of fan (of any team) comes to another team’s blog using slurs? Obviously one with severe personal and insecurity issues.

what slurs are you referring to?

A shoulder/elbow/arm has only a limited number of throws in it. Perhaps Wagner’s has reached its limit.

“not wit the phils fans, u can keep doin wat ur doing but what kinda met fan comes in here and makes goody goody with them, come on??? if ur gonna be goody go to YOUR TEAMS BLOG homo”

What kind of Met fan? I’ll tell you what kind. The kind that can make an intelligent argument without offending anyone. He seems to be one of the only of his type. Who would have guessed it, but he actually seems to be a fan of baseball in general and understands that there is a whole world outside of New York. It’s called class.
As for some of the other topics, I agree with Don M when he says the Phillies have a better pitching staff. Obviously, the Phils pen is best in the league, and the opposite can be said about the Mets pen. The rotation is pretty close if you consider numbers from the entire year. If youre talking about after the All-Star break, its got to go to the Phils. Hamels has been a stud all year, Moyer has been much better than anyones expectations, and the re-emergence of Myers can only be defined as dirty. Blanton is an improvement over Eaton, but so would a 6-year-old, and Kendrick has been what one would expect from a young, bottom of the rotation guy.
Do I think the Mets will win the disision…yes I do. Will the Phils take the wildcard…lets see how the Brewers respond to their recent thumping. I do know that the Nl will once again come down to the last out of the last game of the season. It might not be a good thing for Phillies fans, but it will be a great thing for baseball fans. Im looking forward to a fun September.

Some Phillies players and baseball announcers and analysts stated at various times last year that Rowand was a leader in the club-house. He also had that quality about him when he played for the White Sox. Rowand mentioned one time that if he would not have been a baseball player, he would have liked to have had a career in the military.

Getting over it FRED does not erase the fact that the Phillies could have signed him for about the same amount of money that the Giants did. He only wanted a contract that was a year longer.