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The more I think about it, the less I think the phillies will sign someone of note in the offseason. They simply dont believe in spending that much money on starting pitching.

hamels, myers, blanton, happ, moyer isnt a bad rotation IF myers is in form again and blanton is serviceable. i cant see adam eaton even being in phildelphia come april. kendrick probably wont even be in the rotation next year an di wonder, why did it take them so long to get happ up here? kendrick was done back in july….happ shouldve never been sent back down.

now, i think if moyer doesnt come back, or even if he wants to, THEN you sign a notable solid starter, pushing happ to the 5th spot and leaving carrasco in AA to start the year, kendrick along with him. and adam eaton doesnt exist…

Carrasco was up in AAA to end the year, so he’ll probably start there next year.

Moyer said he wants to return next season.. I think somebody said his family is still in Seattle, but I can’t see him sticking around to play for one of the worst teams in baseball, the Mariners.. so I expect him to resign here.

Hamels, Myers, Moyer, Blanton, Happ… IF they dont sign somebody else… I’d love for them to overpay a Sheets for $50 M over 3 years… so you aren’t killed with him long-term… but I doubt they would do that.

but even at 100%, his STUFF was never that great…. yea he had some good outings, but I dont think anyobody think Kendrick would ever be more than a #4 or #5 starter. Happ showed all year in AAA that he can be almost unhittable… and I think he’s deserved his shot up here, especially with Kendrick struggling now…

I think hitters have adjusted to Kendrick quicker than he was able to counter.. now he’s paying the price. Especially when you read quotes from him saying that he isn’t doing anything differently..he feels fine, etc..

kendrick isnt coming back until late next year, maybe. hes just not good enough. happ is your 5th starter right now, PERIOD. unless some dramatic thing happens in the offseason…

i still need to see another late-inning reliever brought in here to sure things up a bit IN ADDITION TO keeping chad durbin and scott eyre around. (goodbye, rudy seanez).

im simply no longer going to advocate paying all that money for pat burrell to stay here. i mean, hes not even mobile in left field and i cannot bear to see pat keep getting pulled in the 7th inning for so taguchi anymore. if greg golson was ready or was the real deal then hed be platooning by now. not ready, have to go sign free agent. stairs is in the mix but hes not a starter. so you need more power numbers from the corner outfield, knowing that werth is playing everyday still. milton bradley? 2 years is prob not enoguh unfortunately.

i love a good lefty but i certainly am not sold on Happ yet. One good start? Slow down people. And I’m definitely not one to throw away Kendrick yet. He hasn’t been the same lately. He hasn’t gotten that good downward diving action. It’s only been moving left to right, not down. And it’s been down the middle and about thigh high.

He just needs a tune up. And when some pitcher goes down next year with an injury, because face it we’re due for an injury… Kendrick will be there to fill in.

Wow, Geoff, I never thought I’d hear this out of you.
Myers/Hamels/Blanton are locks for Phils rotation. You’d be an idiot not to resign Moyer after all he’s done for this organization and his performance this season. Even if he’s not as great as he was this year, his presence is definitely acknowledged by his teammates.
Gotto go with Happ. Kendrick has this jaw-dropping ability to get out of jams when he’s on. Everyone on this site knows it or “Kendrickian effort” would never have been coined. Bottom line is that thriving on low averages in key pressure situations is a way to make a living, but its a dangerous one. Has Kendrick come unraveled at the seams, or have teams finally figured him out? You have to wonder with his stuff. I don’t have too much faith in Kendrick even when he’s on because he’s always one big hit away from getting shelled. I say Happ has proved he is a very viable option, but of course the contest doesn’t end here.

Despite Myers’ resurgence I think he may be the best 8th inning option the Phils have. Maybe ask him shortly after the season ends if he wants to start or be the primary set-up guy for Lidge. If he wants to pitch the 8th, extend his contract two years with the promise that when Lidge’s deal ends, Myers will become the team’s closer.

Jeremy…that’s a horrible idea.

I could see the Mets trading for Uggla. They already said they won’t sign CC.

any NL team taht signs burrell and has him play in the outfield is retarded

While on another site – someone posted this link on youtube. Some guy fell asleep at Shea and the fans proceeded to stack cups on his head. The clip is nine minutes long but it might be the best thing Mets fans have ever done……

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdnImqDmLqk

burrell on the muts is a funny thought… considering he is the ‘mets killer/nemesis’
hopefully he does what jenks did here – nothing. jenks use to DESTROY us and look how he’s worked out this year hah
anybody consider willy mo pena as a possible left fielder? maybe with chollie’s genius hitting coach abilities he could return to the bosox/reds from he was once feared for… plus he’s still young and would probably be cheap

I am all for trading Kendrick, but I would rather send him to AAA to develop an out pitch

he needs both an out pitch and some more confidence.

due to the off-day on the 25th. it looks like Hamels will get 3 more starts.. 18th, 23rd, and 28th..

And the 28th, Myers would be available on a short-rest situation if he was needed… Hopefully that game won’t matter at all though!

Sign CC. Cole,CC,Myers,blandton/happ/carrasco/kendrick,moyer… use the others as trade bait to fill our bench and/or bullpen. Bring in a legit 8th inning arm. Sold.

I think we need a A-type pitcher (We should keep Hamels, Myers, and Moyer in the rotation and let Blanton, Happ, Carrasco fight for No.5 spot). We’ve been very lucky in that none of our good pitchers has been injured this season.

But just think what would happen to our rotation without Hamels for a month? We need some insurance, and it must come in the form of a top pitcher. No.1 priority for 2009. Leave the offense intact if you have to.

Urbina- you obviously have been stuck in jail to realize no #1 or #2 UFA has ever signed a FA contract to pitch in the Bank. And Sheets hurt his elbow last night and revealed he has been getting some shots for it, so he is out or do you want another Garcia?

Happ has had some pretty solid starts this year in some pivotal team situations and has done real well. I don’t think last night was just a one time deal. I think he has more talent then Kendrick does and is a LH.

Kendrick needs a couple of pitches added and confidence. Last year the pressure didn’t seem to affect him until the playoffs- which for a rookie isn’t bad. And he won games even if he had alot of run support. If he can add an effective pitch and keep his pitches low in the zone, then I think he is a solid candidate for 5.

I can also see them using him as trade bait and putting Happ and Carrasco in that spot next year. But again, as I mentioned, they need to resign Moyer for the #3 spot.

Rotation for 2009 unless some big pitcher does want to come here:
1. Myers-he wants it more than Hamels right now in pressure situations
2. Hamels- let him sit quietly here and learn how to become a 200+ inning pitcher one more year
3. Moyer- a definite keeper and key to the rotation
4. Blanton- signed, sealed and delivered to our rotation- accept it
5. Happ,Carrasco, Kendrick- let them battle it out

mets will sign rod,sheets burrell,plus 2 middle relief,and maybe cc if they can’t get sheets

I think HAPP lead AAA in strikeouts this year… Kendrick came from AA with a crappy record.. and did well because he could get groundballs, double-plays, etc..

Carrasco barely speaks english, so of course he’s going be nervous doing interviews with reporters..

the mets wont sign burrell. they wont sign k-rod either, and they wont sign CC sabathia. the mets will with brian fuentes and it will turn out to be a bad signing.

omar minaya is an incompetent general manager. with ALL of that money they syhould have won 2 WS by now under him. hes made one good trade.

Gabe, no doubt Cole has the talent and has suffered from lack of run support this year, but right now- in a deciding game, who do you want with the ball? I mean, if you had to make that decision today? I think the Mets series showed us that Myers can shut a winning team down and right then Hamels did not. It doesn’t get much more prime time in the regular season then against the Johan and the Mets in Shea on the national game of the week.

I love Cole and his stuff and has the talent to be an ace. I just don’t think at present moment he is ready to step up his game. Myers blew the Mets away against their #2 in Pelfrey. And Cole has never pitched this much in his life. I say let’s see how he does in the #2 role again if Myers’s head is truly cleared!

i think that putting myers as the 1 will light a small fire under hamels…
make him compete for the job like in football when they draft a young QB to make the veteran think about his job a little more…
today i’d give the ball to brett because he WANTS it (he already has his contract perhaps?)