Comments on: Respect For Moyer Never Gets Old

By: gplad

gplad — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:56:08 +0000

MY MVP

By: Geoff

Geoff — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:07:17 +0000

see now that qualifies as old man strength. a 46 year old man, pitching on 3 days rest, goes out there and gets it done. then after the game is like: “arr, somebody had to pitch tonight, might as well have been me. someone had to step up.” awesome.

By: d marley

d marley — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:04:23 +0000

Moyer has been outstanding, just a pleasure to watch. Gets my vote for team MVP. And they better bring him back or I’m kidnapping the Phanatic’s mom.

By: Philly Dude

Philly Dude — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:54:11 +0000

o yeah Moyers done wonders with Kendrick..

By: Don M

Don M — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:28:28 +0000

Outman has not done anything to impress me. They only wanted to keep him around as a bullpen guy anyway.. and they traded him for Blanton, who is currently your #4 pitcher… who, again, I think is better than the #4 pitcher on most other teams..

By: Georgie

Georgie — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:24:40 +0000

Julie, yes I would definitely say Moyer has to be Man of the Year, he’s always talking to the younger pitchers during warm-ups and games, but sometimes I wonder if they listen to what he has to say.

By: NJ

NJ — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:09:37 +0000

Been reading a lot about Don Mattingley during the end of his time with the Yanks, makes me think of Moyer. The current crop fo players has been so fortunate to have a true old schooler around and above all healthy. Kendrick wouldn’t have lasted more than a cup of coffee if it wasn’t for the presence of Moyer and Cole would probably be still struggling to breakout.

By: Julie

Julie — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:04:04 +0000

I’d definitely welcome Moyer back as a player/coach. He seems like a decent guy even though he went to St. Joes. Bri or Tim – Not sure if you did this, but maybe we can put up a link for the Man of the Year ballot? Moyer certainly seems deserving for his work on and off the field.

By: NJ

NJ — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:00:46 +0000

Exactly I wouldn’t entertain the idea of writing Golson off but we cannot expect him to be ready to be an everyday major league player in ’09, it could pay divident if we leave him maturing until he reaches the age and baseball experience of a guy like Ellsbury.

The gripe I have with the Phils drating these athletes is their not drafting the high end ballplayers but stats kids, they coverted Alex Rios so now their trying to re-create him but their missing getting guys with the ability to handle the bat and play with the right attitude, saying you’ll do anything for the team and then breaking your nose or scraping your knee in the dirt making contact on a 3-2 pitch in the 8th pitch of an AB are worlds apart. Marson’s the first real ballplayer coming through who’ll play the game right, I like kids like Golson and his clones in A-ball but there’s no telling if their going to be able to handle the bat any better as they progress through the minors. I also really wonder where the other prospects are… The live bullpen fitting arm, corner infield and outfielders… We have a lot of starters, catchers and centrefielders but were not addressing needs and a 20/20 guys not going to offset the loss of a 30-40HR bat if he can’t get on base enough to make the rest of his game compensate the loss. Does anyone not think trading Outman was a big mistake?

Getting a little off-track so back to Moyer…

By: Don M

Don M — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:46:51 +0000

You can’t hold it against Golson that he isn’t ready yet… but the smart thing to do with Golson is WAIT until he is ready to come up… which could be next year if he plays in the fall league and winter leagues.. and impresses at Spring Training.. but will more likely be sometime mid-season or to start 2010.

The Phillies have used recent draftpicks to bring in top-athletes, which seems to be the way to win in baseball… 45 HRs are nice from your outfielders, but not if they never steal you any bases, or create any runs… so the Phillies now have a bunch of young guys with 20-20, or 30-30 potential… and a bunch of young pitchers that other teams would covet in their systems…

I agree with someone saying that the Bell and Gordon signings cost them those draft picks.. BUT.. Gordon was good overall.. AND.. most draft picks dont make the big leagues anyway, so its not as big a deal as we think

By: Paul

Paul — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:40:42 +0000

Even though he isn’t someone that blows guys away, I love watching hitters flail away at Moyers pitches. Kudos to him for putting together a long and very successful career. Here is hoping that he sticks around a little longer, and finally get to pitch in a World Series.

By: NJ

NJ — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:39:15 +0000

I’ve coming to the feeling were under a new farm to the Howard/Utley era. Have tried to dig up more information on the VPs overseeing the scouting/development and it’s hard to tell who’s responsible for the positives and should bear responsiblity for the failings. Since Utley we’ve had three prospects feature for more than a cup of coffee and all were emergency injury call-ups in Hamels, Kendrick and Zagurski.

As it stands we cannot field a legitimate replacement for Burrell as Golson’s bat is nowhere near ready to get his legs into the game consistently, our bullpen has 3 departing free agents and Madson creeping very close with only 1 minor leaguer in sight who hasn’t pitched in a very long time. Our insurance for Howard is in A-ball and was a lucky find and the rest of our prospects are either starting pitching with no spots or CFers very similar to Golson. We have some really good looking prospects and Lakewood/Clearwater/Reading look good places to develop prospects but many elements of the farm are a real mess. Thoughts?

By: Georgie

Georgie — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:31:46 +0000

Someone posted late last night asking me who my favorite Phil is. Prior to this season I would have said Jimmy, hands down. But his lax attitude at times this year has me reconsidering that. I too would probably have to say Moyer, he is an enigma, don’t think there’s another player out there with his work ethic.

I noticed a sort of confused look on Sheets’ face when he came out of the game, maybe rethinking his possibility of coming to our “bandbox”???

By: NJ

NJ — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:30:35 +0000

Moyer is the team MVP by a longshot, Hamels has pitched a fantastic year but Moyer has excelled past expectations. A 3.5 ERA with 14 wins with a couple to throw aged 45 is as mindblowing as Lincecums entrance into the majors.

Moyer’s been good for most of his career but has been nothing short of great this year and that word gets watered down used so much, but he’s had a legitimately great year.

By: Don M

Don M — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:28:45 +0000

Our farm is what made us this competitive.. Howard, Utley, Rollins, Burrell, Hamels, Myers.. are the core of this team. I think Burrell is gone after this year though

By: MA Phanatic

MA Phanatic — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:25:53 +0000

oh and I’ve been thinking about the Mets team MVP as well. While I considered Carlos Delgado, I ultimately decided their team MVP should be Kyle Kendrick..thoughts?

By: MA Phanatic

MA Phanatic — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:25:08 +0000

I know Howard is leading the league in Hrs and RBIs, and Lidge is perfect in Save opps, but doesn’t Moyer deserve some team MVP consideration this year? I mean this guy has been a savior to our starting rotation. Him and Brett Myers circa July-present

By: NJ

NJ — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:23:14 +0000

It’s not just 15-17m with Sheets (who’s growing on me as he’ll pitch 200 in a year he hasn’t been completely healthy) is not the full story, if your Houston, the Dodgers or even the Mets you see this guy as an instant fix without caring about the long-term implications. Are we sorry now we didn’t land Soriano because it’ll be the same situation, someone’s going to be willing to tack on that extra year or guarantee more money and is Sheets really the guy? Maybe with Myers departing into FA you take a chance but I don’t know… FA is a crapshoot and what is better for us? The hope that a guy like Sheets takes us over the top or looking to building the kind of farm that made Milwaukke this competitive?

By: Don M

Don M — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:22:08 +0000

as a baseball fan.. i’d so much rather watch Moyer, Greg Maddux, Hamels, Santana… instead of Beckett, Randy Johnson, etc..

watching pitchers make hitters look foolish is amazing. 96mph heaters are cool too, but not as fun as seeing an old man throw 70mph to major league hitters, and knowing that the hitters are completely overmatched

By: Don M

Don M — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:19:39 +0000

Me… My* …its all the same. holla fa sho