Comments on: Wagner Will Not Return In ’08 … ’09? http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:33:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Hulda Cupithttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-198379 Hulda Cupit Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:30:19 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-198379 The business brokerages network will provide you with access to some large pool of people who have the details about companies for sale and buyers or investors searching for any organization venture. By producing good use in the info you've, you might be cutting a provide and make a handsome profit out from the transactions. The business brokerages network will provide you with access to some large pool of people who have the details about companies for sale and buyers or investors searching for any organization venture. By producing good use in the info you’ve, you might be cutting a provide and make a handsome profit out from the transactions.

]]> By: The Gamehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-70027 The Game Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:04:36 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-70027 Да сайт впоряде, инфа интересная... Да сайт впоряде, инфа интересная…

]]> By: 50Centhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-61265 50Cent Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:58:47 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-61265 Спасибо за сайт!) Спасибо за сайт!)

]]> By: Robhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37257 Rob Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:09:21 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37257 4 million through the turnstiles, a televison network that prints money, and a new stadium in '09 allows the Mets to offer these kinds of deals to players. For them, "overpaying" doesn't translate into "wasteful".It was Billy Wagner....or Braden Looper.It was Delgado....or Doug Meinkevitcz (sp?).It was Pedro....or Beltran likely doesn't sign there.Not to mention that the buzz on Pedro's signing helped launch the tv network, and he won 15 games in'05.Worth the extra money, all.You make your money in sports when you sell.Until then, you spend to win. If you can afford a 500 million dollar franchise, you can afford to "give away" an extra 12 million to a player to earn is services.Especially because you aren't even sure if you're giving it away at all.In Wagner's case, it looks like they did. 4 million through the turnstiles, a televison network that prints money, and a new stadium in ’09 allows the Mets to offer these kinds of deals to players. For them, “overpaying” doesn’t translate into “wasteful”.

It was Billy Wagner….or Braden Looper.

It was Delgado….or Doug Meinkevitcz (sp?).

It was Pedro….or Beltran likely doesn’t sign there.

Not to mention that the buzz on Pedro’s signing helped launch the tv network, and he won 15 games in’05.

Worth the extra money, all.

You make your money in sports when you sell.

Until then, you spend to win. If you can afford a 500 million dollar franchise, you can afford to “give away” an extra 12 million to a player to earn is services.

Especially because you aren’t even sure if you’re giving it away at all.

In Wagner’s case, it looks like they did.

]]> By: Phils2008http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37256 Phils2008 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:06:33 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37256 I hope the Mets don't land K-Rod. On the other hand I think the Phils will have a great team in 2009 know that are pitching is improving combined with are offense that has been missing in this year. I hope the Mets don’t land K-Rod. On the other hand I think the Phils will have a great team in 2009 know that are pitching is improving combined with are offense that has been missing in this year.

]]> By: Philly Dudehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37204 Philly Dude Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:09:25 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37204 www.metsrefugees.com http://www.metsrefugees.com

]]> By: Tylerhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37185 Tyler Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:43:28 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37185 You're on this site 24/7.Every time I come here I see your delusional ass comments. You’re on this site 24/7.

Every time I come here I see your delusional ass comments.

]]> By: Mike T.http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37083 Mike T. Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:44:53 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37083 tyler, waaaaaaaaahhhhh. tyler, waaaaaaaaahhhhh.

]]> By: reasonable met fanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37079 reasonable met fan Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:24:18 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37079 kkkkkkkkk rod is on they wayagain nice to see some people take the high road here. But for the mets this is a good thing. philly fans know in a big spot wagner coughs it up, and they would have not even went after krod is wagner is healthy. We'll see how long that 21- 10 record hold tho kkkkkkkkk rod is on they way

again nice to see some people take the high road here. But for the mets this is a good thing. philly fans know in a big spot wagner coughs it up, and they would have not even went after krod is wagner is healthy. We’ll see how long that 21- 10 record hold tho

]]> By: Tylerhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37073 Tyler Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:54:24 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37073 21-10 without Wagner.Mike T., you're a bitch. 21-10 without Wagner.

Mike T., you’re a bitch.

]]> By: Mike T.http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37072 Mike T. Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:18:03 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37072 haaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahahhaha. haaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahahhaha.

]]> By: SJ Mikehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37068 SJ Mike Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:00:44 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37068 Hard to kind of laugh at it for 2 reasons.1) Karma can be a bitch, especially in sports. Last thing you want is to cheer ill fortune on injuries, because it wouldn't be long before it comes right back and bites us.2) The Mets bullpen has been, for some odd reason, considerably good since he went down. For whatever reason, Wagner made that bullpen more unstable. Hard to kind of laugh at it for 2 reasons.

1) Karma can be a bitch, especially in sports. Last thing you want is to cheer ill fortune on injuries, because it wouldn’t be long before it comes right back and bites us.

2) The Mets bullpen has been, for some odd reason, considerably good since he went down. For whatever reason, Wagner made that bullpen more unstable.

]]> By: DAVEhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37066 DAVE Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:54:35 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37066 Nice to see many of you taking the high road. It's never good to wish or laugh at another team's injury misfortune because karma always finds a way of catching up with you.So, with Wagner and Maine all but out of the picture for 2008, would it not be like the Phils losing Lidge and Blanton for the stretch run? If that happened, I tend to think most Philly fans would all but write off the season. Just makes it all the more impressive that the Mets continue to maintain their (slim) lead in the division and win big ballgames without some of their major players. That said, it would be a disappointment if the Phils didn't emerge as NL East winners. Outside of Gordon and Jenkins, who weren't that great to begin with, the Phils are pretty much at 100%, while the Mets keep piecing together a competitive starting rotation and bullpen. If the Phils honestly think they're better than the Mets, it's time to put up or shut up, because you no longer have any excuses. Nice to see many of you taking the high road. It’s never good to wish or laugh at another team’s injury misfortune because karma always finds a way of catching up with you.

So, with Wagner and Maine all but out of the picture for 2008, would it not be like the Phils losing Lidge and Blanton for the stretch run? If that happened, I tend to think most Philly fans would all but write off the season. Just makes it all the more impressive that the Mets continue to maintain their (slim) lead in the division and win big ballgames without some of their major players. That said, it would be a disappointment if the Phils didn’t emerge as NL East winners. Outside of Gordon and Jenkins, who weren’t that great to begin with, the Phils are pretty much at 100%, while the Mets keep piecing together a competitive starting rotation and bullpen. If the Phils honestly think they’re better than the Mets, it’s time to put up or shut up, because you no longer have any excuses.

]]> By: RiVLezhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37065 RiVLez Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:48:41 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37065 k-rod has always been a great closer and is just having a better year this year. k-rod has always been a great closer and is just having a better year this year.

]]> By: ryanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37064 ryan Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:47:22 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37064 good. i hope the mets do sign k-rod. sign a guy coming off a career year . give him money as if he's going to have that year every year. then three years from now you're looking for a new closer because the guy you signed came back to earth and is only average. good. i hope the mets do sign k-rod. sign a guy coming off a career year . give him money as if he’s going to have that year every year. then three years from now you’re looking for a new closer because the guy you signed came back to earth and is only average.

]]> By: Markhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37063 Mark Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:38:08 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37063 Wagners deal might have insurance meaning the mets lose no cash for the 2009 season... all that backend money will go right to K-rod Wagners deal might have insurance meaning the mets lose no cash for the 2009 season… all that backend money will go right to K-rod

]]> By: Jamiehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37062 Jamie Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:38:07 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37062 I feel bad for Wagner - he's a competitor and tough ball player. His mouth oftentimes writes checks his ass can't cash, but he's a rare breed in that he calls it like he sees it. You have to appreciate honesty sometimes, like someone else noted. However, he plays for the Phils' biggest rival, and I'm happy to see we won't have to deal with him the rest of this season. And that's about as "high" of ground I can give to a Met. I feel bad for Wagner – he’s a competitor and tough ball player. His mouth oftentimes writes checks his ass can’t cash, but he’s a rare breed in that he calls it like he sees it. You have to appreciate honesty sometimes, like someone else noted. However, he plays for the Phils’ biggest rival, and I’m happy to see we won’t have to deal with him the rest of this season. And that’s about as “high” of ground I can give to a Met.

]]> By: Griffinhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37061 Griffin Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:37:26 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37061 yeah, I totally agree with the K-Rod rumors. He's hispanic and good so Minaya will go after him hard. They'll use the money they paid Alou and El Duque this year. yeah, I totally agree with the K-Rod rumors. He’s hispanic and good so Minaya will go after him hard. They’ll use the money they paid Alou and El Duque this year.

]]> By: Markhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37059 Mark Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:37:00 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37059 Mets are going to go hard after K-Rod without a doubt... this might actually be a break for the mets in 2009... They are going to give k-rod whatever he wants...Mets bullpen is actually been much better without wagner... Mets are going to go hard after K-Rod without a doubt… this might actually be a break for the mets in 2009… They are going to give k-rod whatever he wants…

Mets bullpen is actually been much better without wagner…

]]> By: ryanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-37058 ryan Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:36:33 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/09/wagner-will-not-return-in-08-09/#comment-37058 i remember two years or so ago people kept referring to Omar Minaya as a "genius" and all i kept thinking about was how silly that was because all he did was go out and sign a bunch of past their prime injury prone superstars who were fading fast . and not only that, but sign them to ridiculous huge money and long deals. who didn't see this coming? with pedro too. everybody knew those contracts were terrible when he gave them. everybody knew those two guys would never play out the entirety of those deals. i remember two years or so ago people kept referring to Omar Minaya as a “genius” and all i kept thinking about was how silly that was because all he did was go out and sign a bunch of past their prime injury prone superstars who were fading fast . and not only that, but sign them to ridiculous huge money and long deals. who didn’t see this coming? with pedro too. everybody knew those contracts were terrible when he gave them. everybody knew those two guys would never play out the entirety of those deals.

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