Comments on: The Utley Unknown Continues To Plague Phils http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:57:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Stevehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46080 Steve Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:16:21 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46080 I buy that Utley has lost 10-20 lbs. 25 seems a big much. I weight train and know that if you work out hard you can gain 20 lbs in a few months and also lose it quickly too if you aren't maintaining it. So I definitely think it explains the lack of power at the end of the season. However, Utley faced a lot of tough lefties in the series, such as CC and all the relievers they threw, so I think that hurt his numbers last series. Those lefties relievers have a job for a reason and that is because they've been proven to get big lefty hitters out. Look for both Utley and Howard to bust out in this series against more right handed pitching. I buy that Utley has lost 10-20 lbs. 25 seems a big much. I weight train and know that if you work out hard you can gain 20 lbs in a few months and also lose it quickly too if you aren’t maintaining it. So I definitely think it explains the lack of power at the end of the season. However, Utley faced a lot of tough lefties in the series, such as CC and all the relievers they threw, so I think that hurt his numbers last series. Those lefties relievers have a job for a reason and that is because they’ve been proven to get big lefty hitters out. Look for both Utley and Howard to bust out in this series against more right handed pitching.

]]> By: Gavinhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46064 Gavin Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:37:57 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46064 Maybe the few days rest will help. :) Maybe the few days rest will help. :)

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46040 Phil Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:03:51 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46040 Utley needs to continue to do weight training all season. He didn't run out of gas last season because he had an injury and had time to rest. I remember a player who didn't lift weights and his lack of weight lifting stopped him from being arguably the best of all time, and his name is Ken Griffey Jr. Utley needs to continue to do weight training all season. He didn’t run out of gas last season because he had an injury and had time to rest. I remember a player who didn’t lift weights and his lack of weight lifting stopped him from being arguably the best of all time, and his name is Ken Griffey Jr.

]]> By: Spike Roganhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46036 Spike Rogan Wed, 08 Oct 2008 02:36:48 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46036 Chase Hustle hits well in southern Cali. (His home) I have a feeling we will see a monster HR shot at Dodger Stadium by Chase.His whole family will be there pumping him up. Chase Hustle hits well in southern Cali. (His home) I have a feeling we will see a monster HR shot at Dodger Stadium by Chase.

His whole family will be there pumping him up.

]]> By: Amandahttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46034 Amanda Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:35:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46034 His defense has been awesome though. He's made some great plays. His defense has been awesome though. He’s made some great plays.

]]> By: Greg F.http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46030 Greg F. Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:20:12 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46030 WIP had an inteview recently with Maadi, the AP writer assigned to Philadelphia sports. Maadi posited that there is nothing wrong with Utley's hip, rather he is simply worn down late season because he doesn't do any in season conditioning or weight training. Nor does he partake of any legal dietary supplements. Consequently his weight drops as the season wears on, from 210/220 to 180/185 along with his timing and strength. Maadi believes Utley simply runs out gas at the end, working only on his swing mechanics. Contrast that to players like David Wright who use strength and weight training all season long. WIP had an inteview recently with Maadi, the AP writer assigned to Philadelphia sports. Maadi posited that there is nothing wrong with Utley’s hip, rather he is simply worn down late season because he doesn’t do any in season conditioning or weight training. Nor does he partake of any legal dietary supplements. Consequently his weight drops as the season wears on, from 210/220 to 180/185 along with his timing and strength. Maadi believes Utley simply runs out gas at the end, working only on his swing mechanics. Contrast that to players like David Wright who use strength and weight training all season long.

]]> By: bigmychttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46020 bigmyc Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:50:59 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46020 Something that most, if not all, posters have seemed to miss is how Utley's stance seems to have morphed into a much more choppy, defensive style than the "cocked and ready to attack" stance.Utley looked like he was ready to hit. Now, he looks like he hangs on. That, of course, could just be perception due to his slump, but I think it's more than that.Injury or poor habits? Maybe poor habits due to injury.... it's something. Somehow, I don't think Milt T. is any closer to answering this than anybody who watches baseball in the Delaware Valley. Something that most, if not all, posters have seemed to miss is how Utley’s stance seems to have morphed into a much more choppy, defensive style than the “cocked and ready to attack” stance.

Utley looked like he was ready to hit. Now, he looks like he hangs on. That, of course, could just be perception due to his slump, but I think it’s more than that.

Injury or poor habits? Maybe poor habits due to injury…. it’s something. Somehow, I don’t think Milt T. is any closer to answering this than anybody who watches baseball in the Delaware Valley.

]]> By: Mannyhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46019 Manny Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:23:44 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46019 We need the two lefties, Chase and Ryan, as 3 and 4, respectively, to do as much damage as possible to the right handed pitchers. Shane should stay as No. 2. I also like the speedy combo Rollins - Shane. Double-steals, anyone? We need the two lefties, Chase and Ryan, as 3 and 4, respectively, to do as much damage as possible to the right handed pitchers. Shane should stay as No. 2. I also like the speedy combo Rollins – Shane. Double-steals, anyone?

]]> By: Rob Cowiehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46017 Rob Cowie Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:49:57 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46017 Who's in a bigger slump : Dow Jones or Chase Utley? Who’s in a bigger slump : Dow Jones or Chase Utley?

]]> By: Robhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46014 Rob Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:02:18 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46014 I don't know what to say about this... but I hear that there's no way he can hit anywhere but 2 or 3... but you all see those numbers, and to boot he's not even producing very good at bats. He's behind in the counts I've seen and just isn't working pitchers. I say you can keep him at 3, but I do believe he needs to be hitting in between the hottest hitters in the lineup right now like Rollins, Utley, Victorino, Howard, (Burrell/Werth) etc. Put him in between those two guys and if he still falters then we should worry. I don’t know what to say about this… but I hear that there’s no way he can hit anywhere but 2 or 3… but you all see those numbers, and to boot he’s not even producing very good at bats. He’s behind in the counts I’ve seen and just isn’t working pitchers. I say you can keep him at 3, but I do believe he needs to be hitting in between the hottest hitters in the lineup right now like Rollins, Utley, Victorino, Howard, (Burrell/Werth) etc. Put him in between those two guys and if he still falters then we should worry.

]]> By: kattapillahttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46012 kattapilla Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:52:02 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46012 You may be right Georgie, I said to my husband the last game, "Has his jaw grown or is it just me?"He's skinny, almost frail, looking and it seems sometimes like he barely has the energy to drag himself around. I have thyroid disease and maybe that's why I notice it, but I'd like to see his numbers on a thyroid test. You may be right Georgie, I said to my husband the last game, “Has his jaw grown or is it just me?”

He’s skinny, almost frail, looking and it seems sometimes like he barely has the energy to drag himself around. I have thyroid disease and maybe that’s why I notice it, but I’d like to see his numbers on a thyroid test.

]]> By: Georgiehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46003 Georgie Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:11:08 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46003 He has lost weight, no doubt about it, but 25 lbs? I'd say maybe 10-15 though. To me it looks like he is getting that "moonface" look, his cheeks/jaw area look bigger, which is an indication of cortisone/prednisone use. I was on that stuff for a bum knee and it did that to my face temporarily, it's one of the first side effects. He has lost weight, no doubt about it, but 25 lbs? I’d say maybe 10-15 though. To me it looks like he is getting that “moonface” look, his cheeks/jaw area look bigger, which is an indication of cortisone/prednisone use. I was on that stuff for a bum knee and it did that to my face temporarily, it’s one of the first side effects.

]]> By: Dennishttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46002 Dennis Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:00:38 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46002 Jack, look at the guy... I think it is noticeable. Jack, look at the guy… I think it is noticeable.

]]> By: Jackhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46001 Jack Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:58:42 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46001 lol dennis the guys doesn't drop 25 pounds every year. That would be very noticeable. He doesn't have 25 to afford.I think he's playing hurt. Like Tim said, he's pulling off the ball and possibly compensating for his hip. It's not pretty but he must stay in the top 4.EB no way can he hit 6. Not to mention Cholly would be crucified. lol dennis the guys doesn’t drop 25 pounds every year. That would be very noticeable. He doesn’t have 25 to afford.

I think he’s playing hurt. Like Tim said, he’s pulling off the ball and possibly compensating for his hip. It’s not pretty but he must stay in the top 4.

EB no way can he hit 6. Not to mention Cholly would be crucified.

]]> By: Dennishttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-46000 Dennis Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:53:09 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-46000 I heard that he loses like 20-25 lbs. throughout the course of the season. That would explain his late season number drops in power every year. He comes into the season with muscle and loses it because he doesn't work out during the season because he is afraid it will mess up his swing..... I heard that he loses like 20-25 lbs. throughout the course of the season. That would explain his late season number drops in power every year. He comes into the season with muscle and loses it because he doesn’t work out during the season because he is afraid it will mess up his swing…..

]]> By: Chutleyhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-45999 Chutley Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:51:00 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-45999 I think the problem is Howard. Without him hitting Utley won't get anything to hit. He needs to be More patient and try and draw walks. BUt im telling you if Howard turns it around so will Utley and against all those righties in L.A.'s rotation i look for both of them to have a huge series. I think the problem is Howard. Without him hitting Utley won’t get anything to hit. He needs to be More patient and try and draw walks. BUt im telling you if Howard turns it around so will Utley and against all those righties in L.A.’s rotation i look for both of them to have a huge series.

]]> By: Don Mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-45998 Don M Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:45:51 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-45998 just looked it up myself.. August 11th vs the Phillies (kendrick got rocked)Lowe went 6.1, 5 hits, 3 earned runs, 1 BB, 3 Ks, 0 HRs. 13 Ground Balls- only 3 Fly Balls...So if the Phillies get runners on.. stealing bags will be key to staying out of Double-Plays... we've all said for a while now how much we'd like to have Lowe pitch here because he's a dead ground-ball pitcher... lets hope its humid or something on Thursday and maybe that ball has to carry to it, instead of cold-sink just looked it up myself.. August 11th vs the Phillies (kendrick got rocked)

Lowe went 6.1, 5 hits, 3 earned runs, 1 BB, 3 Ks, 0 HRs. 13 Ground Balls- only 3 Fly Balls…

So if the Phillies get runners on.. stealing bags will be key to staying out of Double-Plays… we’ve all said for a while now how much we’d like to have Lowe pitch here because he’s a dead ground-ball pitcher… lets hope its humid or something on Thursday and maybe that ball has to carry to it, instead of cold-sink

]]> By: Don Mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-45997 Don M Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:41:17 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-45997 Utley has to bat either #2 or #3... he's too good of a player to have him that low in the lineup.. he's struggled a bit so far, but he did drive in 2 runs against the Brewers when nobody else was hitting..I was surprised that they had him and howard bat 3-4 in game #2 against Sabathia.. and neither of them had a chance up there against CC.. but the rest of the lineup was aweseome..what are lowe's numbers against the Phillies?? Utley has to bat either #2 or #3… he’s too good of a player to have him that low in the lineup.. he’s struggled a bit so far, but he did drive in 2 runs against the Brewers when nobody else was hitting..

I was surprised that they had him and howard bat 3-4 in game #2 against Sabathia.. and neither of them had a chance up there against CC.. but the rest of the lineup was aweseome..

what are lowe’s numbers against the Phillies??

]]> By: Ebhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-45996 Eb Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:26:37 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-45996 I think Utley is great and all but i would move him out of the three hole. Either down to 6Rollins Vic Werth Howard Burrell Utley Feliz RUiz I think Utley is great and all but i would move him out of the three hole. Either down to 6

Rollins
Vic
Werth
Howard
Burrell
Utley
Feliz
RUiz

]]> By: Danhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/comment-page-1/#comment-45995 Dan Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:26:03 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/10/the-utley-unknown-continues-to-plague-phils/#comment-45995 I think Utley WILL turn it around this series. He has good numbers against Lowe and I think most of the Dodgers staff. I just have a feeling this series will belong to Chase and Ryan. I think Utley WILL turn it around this series. He has good numbers against Lowe and I think most of the Dodgers staff. I just have a feeling this series will belong to Chase and Ryan.

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