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Lets win this one for steve irwin!!!!

I heard that joke earlier and almost got into a car crash on 95 at the cottman exit.

Crokies! Let’s stick it to the Rays!

I see what you are saying Griffin – the Rays will have an easy night in the bullpen as far as matching up lefties and righties. I agree with what you are saying on one hand, but on the other hand, this lineup has helped us all the way to the series, and for the most part has been organized this way. I can’t see Werth in the 2 hole again tonight, he has some awful at bats(as do most of the other phillies) and gives the defense no threat of dropping down a bunt or hitting the basepaths with blazing speed like Victorino does. I think Victorino HAS to bat 2 in the order, thus pushing back Werth to the 6 hole. I think it is the only way to go. The only time Werth is worthy of batting in the 2 hole is when facing garbage lefties.

Is it 8:30 yet?

Manuel doesn’t have the personnel to switch the lineup up. Let’s face it, Victorino is a better fit in the 2 hole then Werth, and I can’t see them putting Werth in the 4 hole to break up the lefties. Another option would be to play Dobbs instead of Feliz, but when doing that we give up one of our best defensive players that would help us if this game is another close one. And they could also play Jenkins or Stairs instead of Werth, but they would also be giving up something defensively.

I know that during the season Werth batted in the 3 hole for a little while, but Utley has to be in that position where he can drive in runs.

In the offseason we will have to adress the fact that we have all those righties at the bottom of the order (Juan Pierre in LF batting 7, haha), but for tonight, and the rest of the series we will have to settle for this lineup. We have abused their pitching thus far, just haven’t been able to knock in the runs. We all know they are 1/28 with RISP, but we have to get over that and start a new series tonight.

The way I look at it, this is a 5 game series now, and with the next 3 here, we have home field advantage . . . GO PHILS!

I agree that Feliz MUST start tonight with Moyer pitching, I just wish our lineup wasn’t so slanted. Let’s be honest, if Jenkins hit at all this year, he’d be in the lineup tonight instead of Werth and that would help balance out the bottom of the lineup.

What’s the weather like there?

Weather.com has it raining until midnight.

switching Werth for Vic. It solves the righty/lefty thing somewhat, by assuring that if Maddon brings in a lefty to face our lefty pinch hitters, then he’ll have to face a lety killer in Werth before he gets to our lefty bats.

Man, this game can’t come soon enough!

Yes, KM, we have more than enough pop. If Rollins, Howard, and Burrell did half of what they normally did, we would be up 2-0, no question. Those guys really need to rise to the occasion tonight, because Garza is looking like the new Josh Beckett. We need Moyer to come through, and it makes me uneasy that Moyer’s success tonight depends partially on how willing the homeplate ump is to call low strikes. But this umpiring crew owes us one right now.

Ultimately, I think it’s all about the table-setters tonight. J-Roll has struck out more in the last six games (11) than he did the entire month of September (9). In some ways, Jimmy became a bonafide leadoff hitter this year, by walking more often than he struck out (58 BBs, 55 Ks), but in the postseason, he has 3 BBs and 13 Ks. More than anyone else, Jimmy’s discomfort at the plate has been the most damaging. I look for him to relax back at home and get things going.

Philly Fan, you can usually find line-ups posted in a myriad of other places before MLB though. They seem to be asleep at the wheel on the internet site sometimes.

Flyers W, maybe good karma will spread across the street

Just read on phillies.com, phils lineup still same. werth in 2nd spot and vic in 6th spot. Interesting here for rays lineup, left handed hitter gabe gross starting in right and he’s batting like .181 against Moyer. Two best records against moyer from rays are pena 10for20 2hrs and carl crawford 9for19. Only phils player with record in garza is matt stairs 1for10. Game likely to be delayed, but played. Maddon was saying he likes the cbp facility because it’s bigger than bostons. Also for flyers fans, jeff carter scores in ot as flyers beat devils 3-2 in ot. Philly is busy this weekend. Today was flyers game, phillies game and a concert. Then tomorrow is eagles game, phillies game and another contest. Their might be a sixers preseason game, but im not sure. Anyways, Moyer will pitch great. Nervous about O. LETS GO PHILLIES ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!

I feel real good about Moyer tonight. I think he comes through in the clutch and keeps these young hitters off balance with his wizardry. Pat needs to get something going, and Werth needs to pick things up in the 2 hole and drive J-Roll in. J-Roll will be better tonight, I’d be willing to bet.

Tim, are you tailgating at your house then? Got a tarp up to stay out of the rain?

Looks like the rain at the park right now will be the heaviest it’s going to get tonight. Another 10 minutes or so and hopefully that will pass, and then it looks like lighter rain after that (according to the radar). Anyone close to the park to shed some light on this (no pun intended)?

On another note, I like Game 1′s aggressiveness on the basepaths. We need J-Roll, Werth, Utley, and Vic to get on and keep the pitcher concerned with them. If we have any luck, this will lead to bad pitches and nice production.

I agree that Victorino should be in 2hole. I’m ok with Feliz tonight with Moyer pitching there’s a ton of ground balls and I like his glove a lot better than Dobbs

Sorry didn’t finish my thought Dobbs did not look good at the plate the other night either which makes me more ok with the move for tonight

That’s what was just claimed on television.

Any news? Doesn’t look like tonights happening…

So it’s 9:30 start?

rain will be gone soon according to meteorologists…game start set at 9:30, but may be 9:45