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Penny isn’t a crazy idea but is his attitude right for Philly. Didn’t Torre and the DOdgers get fed up with Penny because he didn’t try to rehab? I thought I read/heard somewhere he ind of gave up on the season and that bothered the Dodgers, and if true would bother me too.

Doesn’t look like the years will be the problem with Sheets so much as the money short-term, he’s going to rake it in short-terms somewhere like Houston and our money could be put to better uses.

If Sheets didnt break down AGAIN last season id be ok with getting him…but now its too much of a risk. penny was once a cy young award winner if i remember correctly, but hes really fallen far. MAYBE if you got him on a cheap one year deal and tried to fit him into the rotation thatd be ok, but i just dont know. wolf’s ship has lone since sailed from CBP.

I like derek lowe, but hes going to get a monster contract too for someone his age. i think the yankees will land him and CC and a heavy cost.

the red sox will sign either kawakami or uehara because they scout japan better than a lot of teams. their set at the top anyway. I think that the Phillies should check in on ryan dempster. he could really be a strong number two starter behind cole hamels. itd be pretty expensive. i REALLY REALLY think they need to sign/trade for another solid starter because i do not believe that moyer – myers can have that kind of year again. i dont even think its a lock that moyer returns because he wants more than a one year deal. so id be having happ and carrasco battle it out for the 5th spot. and id just go ahead and sign or trade for a number 3 pitcher, or even a number 2 if you can get one. if moyer returns than you can have him battle happ and carrasco for the 5 spot. kendrick should be packages along with golson or donald and other prospects to get either a starting pitcher or a left fielder. you might even be able to add happ to a deal as well because he could get lost in the numbers. though i do think hed be a decent 5th starter, but you need to have a backup plan for him in case he doesnt settle into the rotation well for whatever reason.

I’d feel much more confident if they would get another starter, they were extremely lucky last season with their starting rotation, no injuries, Myers came back from AAA pitching like a madman, uh, Jamie’s 46, and is Phat Joe really all that? Big questionmarks, and we don’t even know who will be #5, can Happ or Carrasco be successful up here? Too many unknowns, sign another starter, they can afford it. I just don’t know who????

Off topic, King Cole was chatting up VP-elect Biden at the Eagles game last night, they were both sitting in Lurie’s skybox. The Gov said on the postgame show that Biden thought he was getting booed by the fans when they showed he and Lurie on the jumbotron. They had to explain that they weren’t booing him, they were booing Lurie!

Booing Lurie, it’s not like the Eagles re being run badly… I heard a pundit last night say the different between NY and Philly fan is the NY fans’ll throw batteries in protest but the Philly fans will boo when the batteries miss.

At the end of the day you have to trust right now that things are being done right and Moyer and Blanton will be effective in the coming season, I question Myers who seems to regress during off-seasons but lets see what this teams going to do on the field. A lot of contendors crumble after WS appearances so lets give the new FO a chance to show the ship can be steady at the very least. I still think we leave Carassco down for as much of this year as helps his progress, we can’t expect a ROY contendor if we rush him up and he’s still a good year younger than when most recent impact pitching prospects have come up.

Sheets, Lowe, Penny… We’ve seen the payroll tied up before in desperation and we’re not in desperate times.

Geoff we don’t HAVE to get a solid guy, I can understand how some people are writing Myers, Blanton, Moyer off but we’re coming off a championship and thats rare. Are we going to do what the Dodgers did last year and stock up on every FA arm we can because we’re not sure our guys are going to be at least servicable?

It’s very true you can never have enough pitching but the Phils have 7 guys available to start before even looking into alternatives, payroll is incredibly important right now to keep the core pieces in place and unless your adding a Cy Young candidate then the cost outweighs the value. We have to look back at the teams that try and put together all-star rotations through trades and FA and accept that it doesn’t work.

Im all for signing Penny, if healthy he’s a clear 2nd to Hamels, would love to have him in the rotation, even if he starts out at Lehigh to get velocity back.

I kind of want to see a youth movement next season. Hopefully, Happ, Carrasco, Marson and Donald are all on the roster by the end of the season.

This is what championship teams do to stay fresh and hungry. Not to mention, they would all be legitimate upgrades.

I wont even discuss the Eagles, theyre the most predictable sports team ive ever seen. If they decided to be a running team like the giants, they could get away with their personnel and be fine. but theyre backwards and the coach has to go….

now…dye would be a great pickup for two more years until michael taylor is ready to step in and be the man.

also…guys. in baseball, its rare to see a ptiching staff liek the phillies, albeit underrated at the start of the season, hold up like that all year with guys liek moyer and blantomn being the 3 and 4 guys. they can be the 4th and 5th guy. all im saying is you NEED to add depth there. they really do, trust me. theyre going to need it. they wont get any of the lowe sabathia types, but it couldnt hurt to call ryan dempster and kick the tires, call brad penny and see if he wants a one year deal with incentives and maybe a few options stuffed in there. call up teams looking to move a starter and ask them what itll take. rotation depth is key. this season , the planet were alligned for that rotation. kendrick, eaton, those guys cant hack it. happ, maybe he can maybe not. but you can afford to have EITHER happ or moyer as the 5TH starter. NOT both. for a WHOLE season. so either happ stays and moyer walks or moyer comes back ON A ONE YEAR DEAL and happ is packaged and moved.

i’d rather see carrasco, kendrick and happ battle it out for the 5th spot than bring in a low risk guy. although that all changes if for some reason they don’t re-sign moyer. but as of right now i say let the kids have at it.

It was definitely a matgic year, i guess thats how championships are…all things fall into place perfectly.

its the smart thing to do…add another arm of some quality for depth. would it be great if they signed ryan dempster or someome big? of course….but someome who can be solid is all they really need to alleviate some concern and add some depth.

if only we could get rid of Adam Eaton…