Comments on: Odds And Ends: Burrell, Ramirez, Moyer, Eyre, Japan

By: Memphis

Memphis — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:30:14 +0000

Guys like Howard, large guys with long swings tend to peak early. Plus, while he feasts on bad pitching, his weaknesses are exposed against good pitching. So there are good reasons not to give Howard massive dollars. Holliday would be a better investment at that level — IF the Phils have the guts and IF the price (in terms of prospects) isn’t too high. We’re already talking 10-13M for Burrell — Burrell! — with that as precedent, what will Howard ask for, 25M? Holliday will seem like a bargain, salary-wise, but the Rockies will ask for the moon. Phils supposedly have a thin system as it is, so maybe Holliday isn’t gettable right now, but either way Phils better get used to the idea of paying 15-20M/year for players, real soon.

By: mikemike

mikemike — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:22:29 +0000

I think holiday would want 18-20 million to sign. The phillies won’t give it to Howard a monster power hitter, So do you give up Marson and Carrasco for a one year player. Colorado Knows that they will get two high draft choices if they don’t trade him. So whoever wants him will have to pay for that one year. The Yankees, Red Sox Cub can give up the prospect plus will pay him the dollars he wants, so will the Mets. We are a small market team, and were thirteen in salary this year next year will be lower, just watch.

By: MikeB

MikeB — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:46:53 +0000

I think that the Phillies should pursue Holliday or at least find out right now how bad the cost would be for them. This guy is one of the top players in baseball and would add power to the lineup to help the Phillies match-up with the Mets and Marlins next year who they had losing records against this past season.

By: NateB

NateB — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:34:44 +0000

getting holliday would be amazing, but would cost us a lot of talent. i’m fine with any decent right-handed bat except for milton bradley… he’s a piece of work.

also a comment for Joe- i don’t live in new jersey (i’m in beautiful northern california), but i have to say that NJ is one of the prettiest states in the nation (except for the newark area). you’ve obviously never visited the nice parts of the garden state.

By: Memphis

Memphis — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:54:30 +0000

Bringing back Burrell and Moyer is just plain risky (and I’m being polite). I think one of our worst options is to have Pat in LF and Moyer at #3. Burrell turned down 22M over 2 years and we’re going to up it? Can’t see how that’s a good thing. Pat’s a nice guy, but he’s not worth it. Streaky, slow, an adventure in the outfield, and on the wrong side of 30. Would much rather get after Holliday, one of the Top 10 players in the league. When you have the core of your team in or entering their prime, you go for it. Let’s not get all warm and fuzzy on Pat now. Only other option is to tread water until Golson is ready — and hopefully sign a 1A or strong #2 starter. Moyer had a magic year, but the sands are running out of the hourglass. Let’s stay hungry.

By: Phil

Phil — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:59:33 +0000

I agree…I’d love to see the Phillies go hard after Derek Lowe. He would be a great fit in our rotation especially in our ballpark.

By: Sam

Sam — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:48:55 +0000

Most of the exciting additions I want are from the farm system…Happ in the rotation, donald at third and marson at catcher.

By: Tom G

Tom G — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:58:56 +0000

We could use a pitcher designed for our field…Derek Lowe is a FA…expensive, but he would really make our unit a stregnht beyond Cole.

By: SJ Mike

SJ Mike — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:19:51 +0000

It burns me that the few miles of the NJ Turnpike from Newark Airport to New York is what everyone thinks New Jersey is like, which is near 90 miles away from where I am.

By: Matt Kwasiborski

Matt Kwasiborski — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:00:25 +0000

I think the Phils should kick the tires on CC. I mean the Phils have blossomed into the HS QB and now has a shot at the blonde, buxom captian of the cheerleader squad. Sure, 3 years ago they were the pimpled face geek who could only get the “healthier” girls sitting in the back of the room.

But this team has blossomed to BMOC and that is only guaranteed until April, so why not take the shot and see if CC would be interested and what it would take. He isn’t ego driven to having to be the #1 guy if it means he has a legit shot at winning.

You will have some FAs who just want the money over winning. Sorry, Rowand fans and I am one of them, but that is exactly what he did. I do think CC might be a little different though. If he is dead set on playing on the Left Coast, then that is his choice. However, we can offer a competive deal for him called the Philly Max.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:00:09 +0000

Joe = classy Mets fan. Nothing but the best. He could take a few lessons from RivLez, & Grumpy Miner to name a few.

By: SJ Mike

SJ Mike — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:55:00 +0000

Joe, you’ve clearly never been to New Jersey.

By: Joe

Joe — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:52:11 +0000

Haha. Jersey Mike. How’s Jersey? What exit you at? Wow- a Philly fan from Jersey. Must be a tough life. Living in a smelly ass state that is always the butt of jokes. No wonder you and your drunk classless friends have so much anger. Say hi to Rocco and don’t forget your glow sticks at the next wife beater party.

By: SJ Mike

SJ Mike — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:47:05 +0000

Let me guess, Joe. You come from Metsblog?

By: Joe

Joe — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:44:13 +0000

phillyfixmycar.blogspot.com

Very classy Philly. Nothing less than expected, as usual

By: Jamie

Jamie — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:21:47 +0000

Thursday was the first day that players could file for free agency. It’s a 15 day period, and during that time, they can only negotiate money with their former clubs. They are free to negotiate with other teams during this time on anything other than money (I know, it’s stupid), so the belief that only the former team can negotiate is incorrect. We all know they talk $$ in codes with prospective teams…

By: SJ Mike

SJ Mike — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:04:33 +0000

That’s what I meant. If we have so many weeks to negotiate with Pat before he can test the open market.

By: mikemike

mikemike — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:03:09 +0000

I think its two week before you can start talking to them. That is the window for former teams to negoitiate.

By: SJ Mike

SJ Mike — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:56:09 +0000

Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t teams have an exclusive window for negotiations before the free agent market opens so many days after the World Series conclusion?

By: mikemike

mikemike — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:51:15 +0000

The more I think about it give Pat the third year , I believe that howard will be moved in 2010 and pat can go to first and hopefully Taylor to left. Unless Amaro really thinks he can sign Howard. Pat can fill in there for a year or so.