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I heard a rumor today that the rockies are interested in Holliday for eaton and either myers or victorino

anyone else know of anything like this?

Fran if that’s the case, Tell the Rockies we’ll trade eaton for their bat boy, and a couple soft drinks.

Out of all the LF on the market right now, I’d personally love to see Manny before anyone else. I know alot of people will disagree, and say he’s too much money, and he’s a head case, but I think Charlie can control him over here in Philly. If we can’t get either Manny, or Holliday (Sorry tim, I think Holliday is a future HOF type of player) than we should just stay with Burrell. Give the cry baby an extra year for the simple fact we love him here, and go after better quality pitching.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of picking up Milton Bradley. He had great production last year. The only thing that would worry me is having him in the field considering he was DH’ing for Texas mostly, correct? But, Pat has scared me in the field for years and Bradley was solid defensively in the past. I’m really liking this idea, I think he would look good in that 5 hole considering that he may not rack up as many HR’s at Pat, but he get’s a lot more hits overall and is really clutch close and late (.380 BA).

Don’t get rid of Victorino. His spark can’t be reproduced imho. i was all about trading him for Holliday earlier in the year, but after watching him for this year, I don’t know if his tangibles (speed, fielding) and intangibles (clutch, character) can be reproduced. Utley, Howard, Victorino, Rollins, and Hamels must stay. Madson, Lidge, and Ruiz too. The rest are replaceable in my opinion and we could still win lots of games as long as we have that core.

Manny would hate it in Philly. He wants everything handed to him. He wants to be respected and loved just for ‘being Manny’. You gotta earn it here.

My first choice for LF would be Pat the Bat. If he leaves, then Bradley…

For starting pitchers, get Lowe if possible.

Finally, give long-term contracts to Victorino, Hamels and Madson.

Listen, I’m not knocking Bradley at all. I’m just saying were losing alot of production and power with ”rumors” of him being in the 5 spot. And Nepa…Your comparing Bradleys best season to one of Jenkins worst. All I’m saying is Jenkins would fit the #5 hole better than Bradley. He puts up better numbers in that category. If were going to sign someone to fill in for Burrell, we need to go out with a splash.

I agree with the contracts completely! Especially Madson! By long-term are you thinking 3, 5, & 3 years; respectively; for those three guys?

I think Rocco Baldelli seems like he could be a good fill-in and would platoon well with either Jenkins or Stairs since he can’t really play everyday. But I would still rather have Pat back for another 2 years.

Well I was addressing the comparison to a broken down Jenkins which is just ridiculous.
AVG OBP SLG OPS
Bradley. 321 .436 .563 .999
Burrell . 250 .367 .507 .874

If we can’t get Burrell back,i say go after Bradley…He hits for average every year and he had a high OBP…He might not replace Pat the Bats power,but he would be better then Jenkins trust me…We also need to get Hamels,Victorino,and Madson contracts.

Oh BTW the reason I was commenting on Baldelli is just because he would figure in as a much cheaper alternative. I mean obviously Milton Bradley would be preferred if money’s not an issue.

Nepa-This is the last time I’m going to say this, and yes I watched the entire season. I have been for the past 20 years. We need to match Burrells production. Your telling me you’d rather have Bradley over Burrell? That sh*t just doesn’t make any sense. Bradley had a Rowand type of season last year. What’s the odd’s of him bringing that production here, and repeating it? Has he had consistant years? The guy was a DH half his career, you even said it yourself. If we aint signing either Manny or Holliday, the Phils are going to be forced to resign Pat…Bottom line

“I’m sorry to say this but Bradley is nothing but a broke down Jenkins.”

“All I’m saying is Jenkins would fit the #5 hole better than Bradley. He puts up better numbers in that category.”

These are exact quotes from your posts Chris and these are what I’ve been trying to address. There is absolutely nothing to show that we would be better off with Jenkins in the 5 hole than Bradley. In fact, everything goes in the favor of Bradley over Jenkins, which is pretty obvious.

As far as the comparison between Burrell and Bradley, I’m not exactly sure which player we’d be better off with. You said we’d be losing “a lot” of production going with Bradley over Burrell and I’m just not so sure about that. Bradley put up better overall numbers than Burrell last year.

No Chris,huge difference – when Jenkins came over from MIL he was already declining, you said it yourself it was one of his worst seasons in a long time. Bradley is coming off his best, leading the AL in OBP and OPS, 3rd in BA and an All-Star appearance. There’s just no comparing our acquisition of Jenkins last offseason and the possibility of signing Bradley this offseason.

But I don’t want to be the new Yankees or Redsox!!

So your saying you’d rather win a world series, or make the playoff’s every 15 years?

One thing I Think we are forgeting is right now it’s free agent’s. But who knows who will become available in trades. Holiday is a really great player but with boras and only one year on his contract, It’s a bad situation plus what they want in trade is crazy.

bradley is a asshole. who is self-centered. i have no respect for him after his deal last year when the padres came to town and he flipped of the crowd when he hit that homerun. then a month later he torn his acl trying to go after a umpire. the guy is probably a bigger headcase then manny. look what he did in texas this year when he went after that commentator who said something bad about him. seriously do you really think that would work in philly, the first slump he had it would be a meltdown.

Hi Everyone. I’ve been following this site for a while now but this is my first post.

If we can’t resign Burrell, then I think we should give Dobbs a chance to be the everyday left-fielder. He has put up some real decent numbers considering the amount of at-bats he’s had. The same with Werth. I would bat Werth fifth and Dobbs sixth. Let these two guys have the chance to produce on an everyday basis instead of getting a big-name, big-dollar, injury-prone headache.