Comments on: Phils Skating Around Lowe, Burnett, Moyer

By: Manny

Manny — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:04:30 +0000

“Dan Connolly talked to A.J. Burnett’s agent, and it seems like he has narrowed down his list of potential teams he would want to go to. Darek Braunecker said that Burnett narrowed his list down to six teams.

The teams still in the mix are said to be the: Orioles, Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Phillies, and Braves.”

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/85965-burnett-has-narrowed-his-list-from-12-teams-to-six-teams

By: Tim Say:

Tim Say: — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:56:53 +0000

There is no way that the Phils should go with Moyer, except as a last option for this year. They need to be more aggressive, and go out and get a top of the rotation starter like Lowe or Burnett ( but they will both sign for no less 4yrs./60 mill. The other option is to explore Jake Peavy ,he will be expensive,but we can’t allow a division rival to get him and him kill us for years to come. If the Phils can do nothing else but land a big starter and a big bat for left or third then I’ll be happy. Jermaine Dye, Ryan Zimmerman, (never happen) Chone Figgins as the exactly the type of hitter that the Phils need a legit #2

By: mike

mike — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:10:33 +0000

How can Fuentes want lidges type money, he isn’t a proven top reliever.

By: Phillies Phan SC

Phillies Phan SC — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 01:18:15 +0000

I still think the Nats could overtake the Braves and Marlins if they trade right this off-season. Braves MAY surprise me, but unless they add on their pitching staff – regardless of their Hall of Fame status (if they sign Maddux) is getting older. No offense against any of them, they may surprise me. The Marlins keep making one-sided trades – and not in their benefit… Therefore, I do not see anyone leaving the Nats for the Phillies unless they take something big from us. Just my opinion though… I still think it will be the Mets and us battling it out. I do hope we can take the Mets. I am hoping they sign K-Rod, who may not be the best relief choice on the market.

By: KM

KM — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:51:12 +0000

Phils should sign Lowe, if they can get him for 14-16 mil a year. And they should make a trade for a corner outfielder.

By: KM

KM — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:50:11 +0000

The nats could be competitive next season if they could sure up their first base and outfield situations. Their starters were pretty good last year, and their bullpen has been good for a number of years, they just couldn’t score runs. If the Nats go out and get teixeira, and stop trying to hit lastings milledge at cleanup, they could compete next season. I am not saying they can win the division, but adding tex in would make zimmerman a better hitter, and they already have guzman, so that would make the first half of their lineup a formidable group.

By: mike

mike — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:21:49 +0000

Yeah plus I heard they are going to try to be more competitve and spend some more on freeagents. but its nice to dream. knowing that we have a couple of years before howard leaves. Wouldn’t it be nice if the phillies owners went out and spent some real money on a starter like burnett or lowe to follow Hamels and put donald at third and get a good leftfielder like bradley. our payroll would be high this year but next we let myers walk at 12 million and jenkins and eaton at 16 total that’s 28 million plus felix 3 million so its a one year hit in my opinion. its would be a great thanksgiving present.

By: NJ

NJ — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:02:27 +0000

Maybe somewhere down the line he’ll be available but if this kind of deal was possible Baldelli would have been a Phillie long ago. The only reason Zimmerman would be available is for payroll and the Nats would dictate the terms especially if they were sending him in division. They’d have to relocate again if they made that kind of deal, he’s to them what Braun is to the Brewers.

By: mike

mike — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:20:59 +0000

NJ just saying I would try for him. He is a proven player where donald isn’t. second washington would come out with a two major league ready players in donald and happ plus a good prospect if we could swing it.

By: KM

KM — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:55:41 +0000

Speaking of Delmon Young, wouldn’t he be an attractive option to play in our outfield? I don’t know what Minnesota would want for him, but it would be a nice fit. He’s a good young contact hitter, who legitimately hit 20 homers in this ballpark. Plus he is decent defensively and stole 14 bases last year.

By: KM

KM — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:49:28 +0000

Zimmerman’s not going to be traded. It would be like us trading Utley. Even if it would make the Nationals better to trade Zimmerman and add in starters at a few different positions, how could they sell trading the face of their franchise to the 6 Nationals fans in existence?

By: NJ

NJ — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:54:16 +0000

Zimmerman to Philly’s not happening, he’s the cornerstone of their not sending him to a division rival when their trying to become a legitimate force unless their getting future stars in return. Their fans would abandon the team if they traded Zimmerman for anything less than bluechips, he means a little more to the Nats than Young did to the Rays which is the only comparison I can think of off the top of my head.

By: The Dipsy

The Dipsy — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:41:18 +0000

Wait a second. Where are we getting Zimmerman’s name from? That guy is a beast Donald, Happ, and Feliz for him? Do it, baby.

By: mike

mike — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:22:36 +0000

Zimmerman is a better allround third baseman, He is a 285 hitter allstar fielding stud playing on a bad team.

By: Phillies Phan SC

Phillies Phan SC — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:22:15 +0000

I am against any deal with Feliz. He may not be good with the bat, but he does come up in some clutch situations AND he is a great third baseman. I think we need him for defense. I am for signing Moyer and Burnett.

By: mike

mike — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:59:41 +0000

Matt it still isn’t getting the attention it needs. In this years upcoming draft a pitcher named Gibson out of missouri will be picked in the first round top ten we let go to college . wouldn’t spend to sign him next year watch for workman who we tried to low ball. and he went to texas. azrick a top pitcher for dodgers another one . joe saunders we let go and he is now a top starter for angels. my point is we must go into the draft and go after top talent not easy signs like salvery, a hurt pitcher from a program were the coach is know for ruining pitchers. we spent nothing in the international free agent market. my god even oakland spent four million on a prospect.I would rather take ten million and try to draft top pitching talent who you control for years . then paid lowe or burnett 18 million a year its crazy.

By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:44:32 +0000

Mike –

Farm system is getting better, we’ve got some legit MLB guys in the pipeline. The key is not signing these type “A” free agents who really aren’t difference makers. A great way to waste money AND burn a first round pick.

By: mike

mike — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:25:57 +0000

Okay My trade next week at the meeting . Ryan zimmerman for Donald ,happ, , Felix we paid half his salary .

By: Phillies Phan SC

Phillies Phan SC — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:22:37 +0000

I am also for trying to dump Eaton is any deal we can find someone. Although, I do not know who else would eat that contract unless we will a Red Sox/Manny deal….

By: Phillies Phan SC

Phillies Phan SC — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:21:07 +0000

I may have missed this, but this is simple (so it seems):

Offer Jamie 1 year with a 1 year option @ 5 million with incentives, and go after Burnett. I am not big on Lowe.

I read that the talks with Moyer are only going slow because they are having problems catching up with each other.