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I hope the Phillies’ front office will come to their senses and give Burrell his due money market value and three years on a new contract. Thus ending all the suggestions/opinions on options for a righthanded hitting left fielder. However, it would take a reversal of the front office’s attitude of greed for profits and and acknowledging the financial wealth they’ve attained the past years (including their most prosperous year with record breaking sellouts at CBP, merchandise sold and media contracts which was enhanced with a World Series Championship this past season).

Hey, thanks Bruce. “Due money market value”? Define please. He’s not “due” anything. He’s had the feed bag strapped on for years. We owe him Jack. Sign him just so we can end all the speculation? Good reason. Moving on, who of us would be happy with a platoon that ended up with a 25/85/.285/15 season when combined with some defense and the ability to move runners thrown in? I WOULD!

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Dave, just curious on why you would take Burrell over Ibanez? I will give you the fact that Ibanez is older, and didn’t hit quite as many homeruns in a bigger ballpark. Is it the fact that Ibanez had more RBIs on a worse team(110-85)? Is it the fact that Ibanez hit for a much higher average(.293-.250)? Is it the fact that Ibanez scored more runs(85-74)? Maybe it is because Ibanez stole 2 bags and Burrell stole 0? Maybe it is because he had 52 more hits than Burrell(186-134)? Maybe it is the fact that Burrell struck out 136 times compared to Ibanez’s 110?

Well, for whatever reason you like Burrell better I will never understand it.

Another reason as to why Ibanez would be better is because he would cost less than Burrell, and only require 2 years in a contract.

Ibanez is better than Burrell, but he’s a left handed bat. We need some power from the right side of the plate if Burrell isn’t back. Holliday and Dye are perfect, but both would need to be traded for and Holliday would be expensive on a long term deal. if we can’t obtain Dye, I’d see what it would take to get Holliday. I think he’d be worth the money since I think Howard is gone in a year or two. PAy up now and go all in while we’re riding high. Anythin under 140-145 million on the payroll would be an insult with how much cash the club made this year.

What about using Bruntlett in left with Dobbs and Stairs, he is a right handed bat, he may not have a great deal of power but I think with more AB’s he could hit for a pretty good average. He may have been brought in to spell Jimmy at short but Charlie seemed to think he was a better defensive replacement for Pat in left then Jenkins or Taguchi, and the man scored the World Series winning run.

With that said I would love for Pat to be back next year, but not at a price much higher then 10/11M over 2 or 3 years. If we can’t bring him back and 2/3/4 headed monster that they employ in left fails, they may be able to move Madson (whom I really like, but hate his agent) to get a good LFer. With the way that closer Crap to Bed if Madson has at least half as good a start to next year as he finished this one there would be plenty of teams interested.

I actually heard something the other day and I can’t remember where i heard it, but some writer/reporter isn’t sold on the A’s signing Holliday. He actually thought that they might flip him for a bunch of guys. Any thoughts Tim?

If the phillies platoon Then remember this, they are banking on Werth to better last years numbers. I still am not sold on him ,to protect howard. I know he has had wrist problem but to bank on him to repeat without insurance is not the way a team who is trying to defend its title should be setting its roster. And unless Golson has a big turn around he is another toolsy player who is nothing special. another michael bourn who the phillies continue to draft three like him this year in gose.hewitt.collier. every draft expert will tell you they love speedy toolsy guys but so far it hasn’t work . One of the most knowledgeable baseball expert keith law rates golson very low with no trade value.

I think I’d be okay with a Baldelli/Dobbs platoon in LF to start the year IF we went out and got Lowe. That could provide 25 HRs, 80+ RBIs and good average (.280). I just like the idea of giving Dobbs a shot at a more regular gig, he’s earned that shot. I think Baldelli could play any OF position, which is nice too, though it seems he has the least amount of time in LF.

If that LF combo didn’t work out, we’d still have some nice chips to do a midseason trade (Donald, Madson) for a more reliable LF/righty bat. Unfortunately, I think I’m wishin’ and hopin’ on Lowe. I wonder if we’re even talking to him.

Moneywise, we’d save the 10-12M/yr for Burrell, hopefully get Lowe+Baldelli for less than 20M/yr, and only be adding 8-10M/yr. Easy for me to spend….

How can anyone be openly AGAINST the idea of Ibanez on this team… he’s a career .286 hitter… most of his career for the Mariners (who play in a Pitcher-friendly ballpark).. and over the last 3 years he’s averaged 26 HRs, 113 RBIs, and a .291 average

And he plays LF, which is the least important defensive position (which is why we stick Burrell there)..

Sign Ibanez, i’m all for it.. even more today than I was yesterday

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