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I’m surprised that lefties hit so much better against Springer considering his best pitch is a cut fastball. He must leave it over the plate occasionally.

Durbin will probably be the new Seanez. NL hitters figured him out at the end of last year so we can’t rely on him in the later innings. I think either of these 2 are able to pitch between Durbin and Madsen as a 7th inning type.

I think we’re looking at Durbin in the wrong role, Madson has established himself as the primary set-up guy and Romero can also feature heavily in support. Of course the batters are going to catch up to Durbin but he still has every opportunity to soak up innings in various roles if he’s used right.

I’m all for Brocail or Springer if the moneys right though I hope the Phils get fixated on a bidding war, there are a lot of nice names out there and not all will break the bank: Weathers, Beimel, Howry, Farnsworth, Embree, Ayala or maybe a Affedlt or Cruz hang around long enough for the price to be right.

For once all need is a guy to come in and be a cog and that’s how Durbin has to be looked at, it’s not a 3 man bullpen anymore.

Ooh, I didn’t think about the draft picks. Springer and Brocail don’t seem to be worth the money and the picks.

As soon as I posted this, I thought of something else. Perhaps they should think of platooning Condrey and Durbin as the 6th/7th inning guys. This also may help the fatigue aspect later in the season.

totally agree with Phillies Phan SC. Durbin relied heavily on his slider to get him out of jams. his fastball was 89, slider was 85. when the slider stops sliding, it’s a 85 mph hanger in the strike zone. He’s a major leaguer, he will certainly adjust for next year. he’s not garbage, nor will he be. And absolutely use Condrey a little more. I think this year he really proved that he earned the right to pitch in some tight spots.

I jsut want to say that I hate going out shopping for middle-relief. They are so wishy-washy. One good year, one terrible one. i cant see giving up money and draft picks for some guy, and you dont know who you’re gonna get. I think if we have a problem with relief, we try to solve it from within. and if by mid-june, we’ve exhausted our options, then we can make a little trade here or there.

let’s not get too crazy here. Even if our “league best” bullpen falters a little bit, we should still be okay. remember, we went through 2 and a half months where nobody hit the ball. it will all even out.

combined, older then my late grand mama.

Why not just move Condrey into this role and then make whoever misses the rotation (Kendrick?) into the longman? That solves the problem internally without costing us draft picks or free agent dollars. I think Condrey has earned it, too.

Nestor is perfect cheap and can’t find the plate. Where did you get his name. Rather see them promote a draft choice from last year a closer named swimmer who was dominate in the minors.

I have no problem picking up a veteran righty for the bullpen. I don’t like the idea of losing draft picks, so these two might not be the right fit. But I think a VETERAN righty in the pen to fill a Seanaz-type role is definitely needed.

But in general, Amarro should be concentrating on left field, specifically a right-handed bat that makes frequent contact. That should be priority No. 1. A bullpen cog is easy enough to find (see: Condrey, Eyre, Durbin, Romero, etc.). Starting pitching is harder, but with the young guys we have, I’m not real worried about it, especially since we can sign Moyer again. LF scares me, though.

I am not a Durbin supporter. Not because I hate the guy but because I really don’t think he can keep up his ground ball rate another year.

I just doubt it. He could prove me worng but I’d like some more insurrance incase our Seanez replacement becomes Durbin, then we will need a Durbin replacement.

I like Springer and Cruz. Not high on Brocail at all. I would absolutely be willing to let Bisenius or Nestor get a shot. But we need options.

Also, someone mentioned somewhere on here, maybe another thread, about Mulder. I really liked that idea. he could be eased in to the bullpen, maybe sign him to a Benson type deal and let him slowly build up some strength and then if we need a hole to fill, reliever/starter we have him to call up. I don’t think he’s done yet and could be a nice insurrance peice.