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Bradley and Utley are friends too.

Well, Bradley would fall under that garbage. He had a career year…a very good career year. I do not think that he will repeat the year he had this year or stay healthy for a full season.

At this point it’s hard to see how were going to put a genuine threat behind Burrell, from all I’ve heard I don’t see anyway Bradley signs cheeply without making a hell of a fuss though if he were to be the guy his ailments would open the door for Stairs and Jenkins to get some more starts.

I still like the idea of 3 years and Burrell and I’m resigned to the fact we won’t be able to keep Ryan Howard here long-term short of pulling a A-Rod to Texas like move that would really hurt other areas of the team. We either sign Ryan up now or start fielding offers this time next year and unless were very confident of re-signing him, he shouldn’ factor into the Burrell decision.

I’m not championing for Burrell’s return but the alternatives look like a slippery slope, look how long it took to just stablize 3rd base after Rolen’s departure.

How about Gabe Kapler, he hit .301with a .838 OPS in only 229 ABs, which is important. One mistake Gillick continued to make was getting guys to be bench players(Taguchi and Delluchi) who were only effective when they had a lot of ABs. Baldelli wouldn’t be bad either except he must platoon with his health problems, so if Jenkins doesn’t bounce back he wouldn’t be able to take over as a regular. Kapler at age 33 might not be able to either but he has a better chance. The best scenario would be to get either of these guys and around July hope that Michael Taylor is ready to be promoted after the breakout year he had at Clearwater last year.

I agree with your assessment of Milton Bradley as the best option as our ’09 left fielder. This past season, he was 3rd in the AL in BA, 1st in OBP, 1st in OPS, and 4th in slugging. He is a switch-hitter. Plus, he is a very passionate player, which is just the kind of athlete Philly fans love.

here are some other possible right handed bat outfield trade options

Jose Guillen– Royals– Like Bradley is a nuisance but maybe if he’s on a winner that will handle itself. Wants out of KC he has 2yrs 24Mill left on his deal and the Royals would probably eat some of that money or take a contract back.

Aaron Rowand– Giants– Not sure if SF is willing to unload him after only 1 year and eat some of the 44Mill over 4yrs but if he does come back, sorry Aaron but you gotta play LF

Eric Byrnes–D’Backs–Are his best days behind him? (proabably) Or can he bounce back from injury. AZ is more than willing to unload him and eat some of the 20Mill over 2yrs he’s owed

Magglio Ordonez– Tigers– Det. is looking to dump salary but are they willing to do a deal like we did when we sent Abreu to NYY for garbage? He is owed 18Mill next yr and 15Mill in 2010 but has 3Mill buyout so 1 year 21Mill sounds steep but not if we can send either Eaton (9Mill) or Jenkins (8Mill) along with prospects as part of the deal

Ryan Spilborghs–Rockies — Doubt that Col. will trade him. Why? He’s cheap and good, oh and if they decide to deal Holiday they’ll need him. I just put him on the list because I like him as a player.

Everyone else I thought of was all ready on Tim’s list

I was on the flight out of dallas with the Texas and White Sox All Stars to NYC this past summer, and bradley barely even spoke to his own teammates. Young, Kinsler and Hamilton were all chatting and goofing off, Bradley was off to the side the whole time, and they barely acknowledged each other. On a team like the phils, where everyone seems to be pretty close and won because of it, is that something we want to add?

)I have no interest AT ALL in milton bradley or any of that 30 and over trash. Let Burrell walk, hes DH at this point of his career. If Baldelli passes a physical and is really healed (trainers) id have some interest in bringing him in.

Id really concentrate on bringing in a LF replacement via a trade. One of Kyle Kendrick and JA Happ are on the outside looking in, especially with Carlos Carrasco looming and the Phillies going hard after the top japense Prospect Junich Tazawa. The Phillies, fresh off a WS win, have money to spend and they should sign a free agent starting pitcher to add depth to the rotation. Hamels is the man, hes has ABSOLUTELY proven that. so you need someone to slot in between myers and blanton/moyer. Lowe, Oliver Perez, someone like that would fit in well in that slot if you dont have to pay a ridiculous price. That makes happ and kendrick eexpendable in a trade for a LF who is preferable under contract, right-handed, doesnt strike out too much, and isnt old. Im sorry, not really interested in Magglio Ordonez. Maybe Ryan Ludwick? Dejesus is a corner outfielder, he proved that last year by not really being great in CF. I really do think Kendrick is getting moved and maybe even happ if/when moyer returns.

its not going to be easy to find an adequate replacement for burrell, but it also makes almost no sense to resign him. In the NL hell be totally immobile in a year or two. Lets see what Amaro’s got. Hopefully he was paying attention while Gillick pieced together a WS Champion, despite all his flaws.

i mean, is it me or does that guy have total fraud bust written all over him?

Laughin at bringing up Michael Taylor in July, the guy would have to have a monster in Reading and that’s if he even starts the year there.

Wouldn’t agree he has bust written over him Geoff but his price-tags a hell of a lot higher than I’d like to see us go to considering his contracts up and we’ve just won the championship, we don’t need to play in the rental market for 1 big shot at the title. Would disagree with Bradley being a Philly player, he’s not the athlete he was as an up and comer and he’s not the work hard and then you can have a moan Philly guy.

I really wouldn’t rule out a trade for a RHB coming if Burrell’s allowed to walk.

Providing he can prove his fitness and Pat does not resign then Rocco Baldelli would be worth exploring.

milton bradley is coming off one of his best years. i look at him as a passionate player, but very immature… ala brett myers. i think manuel and the coaching staff could cool his jets through their player friendly ways and he could find a nice home here. he gets my vote.

As much as I would love to have Holliday come to Philly, I’m not sure I’d give up Vic in return. If the Phillies can make the trade without involving Victorino, I’m all for it. How many prospects besides Gavin Floyd have we lost, and regreted it? In the end we still came out ahead and won the World series. Atleast Holliday is a proven winner.

I was referring to being a winner meaning ”everyday player” compared to someone who has no MLB expierience.

Personally, I don’t care to see Burrell back, no matter what kind of deal we could get for him. Overall, factoring in his lack of speed, poor defense, and high strikeout rate, he’s at best an average player who is way overpaid.

I like the idea of taking a flyer on Baldelli for 2 years at $2 million a year. He showed in the playoffs he can still play and hit lefties, and we can use the combination of Jenkins, Stairs, and Dobbs against righties (we’re paying all three of these guys to play next year, so let’s use them!)

MLBTR says the White Sox are looking to dump Nick Swisher, anyone think he can bounce back? (with Manuel & in our lineup?) He’ll only be 28 in 09 and owed 2009: $5.3Mill, 2010: $6.75Mill, 2011: $9Mill, 2012 $10.25Mill club option, $1 million buyout, 2013: FA

For his career he’s a better RH hitter

It wouldn’t be the MLB Hot Stove season with out the annual White Sox Phillies trade

Swisher may be available and signed cheaply but he won’t come cheap.

Bill……seriously? Since Von Hayes? Better go back and check some of the rosters in the past 15 or so years before you make a statement like that. And just to clear up the facts……2002….. .282 avg along with 37 HR and 116 RBI. And 2005….. .281/32/117.

Wow, we just won the WS and so many people are bashing Pat. He did well in every round of the play-offs and while he only had one hit in the WS it was huge. He may not be the best defensive LF but he is always among the leaders in outfield assists.
Bradley is a head case who will disrupt the chemistry of the team. Holiday is a one year rental whose power numbers will decline outside of Coors, for that we will deplete the farm or give up key contributors from the team. Don’t give up on Kendrick so fast he will be fine. Sign Pat to a fair deal until someone from the farm is ready.

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